Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries engaged.

My thing is even if she had work done so what. Most of the females in Hollywood have. As far as the sex tape is concerned it's still just a sex tape even if she got paid since it was with her bf of three years. Once she starts bangin multiple strangers then I'm on board. I just don't see her as being worst than anyone else in entertainment culture. Just my 2 cents

 

LOL that's most American chicks by age 25 these days, and they don't even get paid for it, all they get is a kid by some loser. Be objective and try again.

 

Whoa. Kim Kardashian must bring out the good side of your brain.




As far as calling her "talentless", that's quite silly.


What makes her any less talented than any other model?

Nobody goes out of their way to ever call Bar Refaeli, Adiana Lima, Gisele Bundchen, or Heidi Klum talentless. She does just as much if not more then the girls I just listed.

 

Heidi Klum is as much a businesswoman as she is a model. I read that she has been in a few movies, granted I haven't seen them, might be all in German for all I know. I do know she hosts and produces some shows, and she did some 'sexy singing' during the holidays in a commercial.

I like the way Kim K looks but, Heidi is a sexy mom type married to a seemingly very good Brotha (according to her). Her praise about how great a father Seal is puts her way ahead of most women, in my view and way ahead of Kim K. Besides there is no sex tape of her. She seems to respect herself.

 

Kim Kardashian has done some acting and has produced a tv show.


You're over looking the fact that Heidi Klum was a model for years before she got real exposure and started to do extra stuff. Heidi Klum was your average "just do runway and go home" model for years before she started doing extra stuff. As oppose to Kim who started doing this extra stuff the second she became famous.

Not to mention when Heidi started modeling, Kim Kardashian wasn't even a teenager yet. Heidi has 7 years over Kim. If she chooses to continue at this rate there's nothing to suggest that Kim wont have accomplished as much as Heidi has when she reaches her age.

Plus you just pulled out Heidi Klum arguable the hardest working model in the business. The fact still remains that Kim does more then the average model, who no one accuses of being "talentless".

Umm yeah that's nice and all but that doesn't make her any more talented.

 

Nico is killing this this thread with well thought out responses. rayer:

 

Good! I'll take Reggie.

 

You used Heidi Klum.

 

You did not name drop average models. I do not know anything about fashion and even I have heard of those women.

 

Kim Kardashian didn't go to college, didn't inherit a $30 million dollar trust fund, and she is worth on her own an estimated 8 figures from her reality TV show and DASH apparel stores.

Saying Kim doesn't have 'talent' is missing exactly how KK has mastered her game for about six years.

 

When I have more time, I'll research and post the photos. He breast are saline..they sag all the time, but hers are hardly saggy. Her before pics (she was about a full b to c), were very saggy.
The pics of her ass are when she was in her late teens/early20's and was at Disney World with her younger sisters. She has no ass or hips (I would think Andre as much as you are into Trannies, you'd understand that Kim's ass shape resembles many of theirs after the injections). They both made the tape with the intention of profiting. Its why as she did her make-up for the shoot in preparation, Ray says on camera "smile for the people" and she and does.

 

Exactly. She HAS had extensive work done but her whole pesonna that she is hustling ad-nasuem, is that she's ALL NATURAL.

If it's just a sex tape...then I expect you to defend Paris Hilton, and Kendra Wilkinson (who back then shopped around her sex tape with her boyfriend). Paris also got paid. Since you feel none of their antics constitutes hoe-ish behavior, lol...that is unless its banging a 'stranger' on tape and selling it.

Lol as you lumping her as not being worse than anyone else in the entertainment industry. What an insult.

 

And back at the ranch, Kim has found the man she wants to settle down with and marry. Her first husband was Damon Dash, a black man, and her husband has a black and multi-racial background as well.

 

kunoichi why are still taking shots? Seriously I didn't dive into this girl's past like that because I'm sure if you see pics of most these stars in their earlier years there will be a signs of some type of plastic surgery. It's hollywood those people make money based on their looks. Even a lot of the men have been known to get lipo so why single her out as a fraud, its the culture. No less frequent than drugs in music and no one goes around calling musicians a bunch of drug addicts.

 

You do realize the extent of Kim's 'modeling talen't is her one-trick-pony open mouthed blow up doll look, right? lmao.

 

Because Andreaboba ASKED me, wth? lol.

And again, Kim's whole spiel is "I'm all natural"..All the other women who've obviously had surgery don't even try to claim it. Not once has Niki Minaj or Lil'Kim protested that their asses/faces/boobs are 'REAL'. They keep their mouths shut. The chick never shuts up about how 'real' she is. She isn't.

 

A lot of celebrities promote doing things naturally when they themselves don't follow the same regimine. The discussion here wasn't about celebrities who do sextapes if it were I would defend them based on the same merrit. Besides since when do we value monogamous sex as a culture anymore? Hoing around is very acceptable so if everyone is doing it then it ain't hoing anymore. Btw that first Paris sex tape was with another chick's bf not her own which would definitely make her fall into the hoe category but I digress. The girl the reminds me very much like Jessica Simpson who everyone was calling a dumb blonde and laughing at her while she took advantage of the situation and made herself a 100 million dollar empire selling her brand.
I just don't see where the criticism is coming from. Who in that world amongst her peers would you say is a better role model.

 

You act like she dropped out of the commoner's sky. She was born with a silver spoon, wanted for nothing, her father had enormous connections, he had a music publishing company (hadn't lawyer-ed for 20 years until the OJ trial and he only re-applied for his license so that he could invoke the client/lawyer privileged in regards to the mysterious black OJ bag that went missing which was filmed last in his hands.)
His death inheritance allowed his daughters to buy 2 clothing stores. Her sisters will tell you - Kim did barely much to help run the stores. The hustler mastering the game in the family is her mother, not Kim.

 

Say what you want but turning a girl from a chick in a sextape to a brand ain't no small thing. Being able to make 65 million in a single year is incredible especially in a down economy. The political scientist in me will easily acknowledge that the Kardashians and celebrities only add to the break down of society and offer no true social value. The accountant in me has to respect the incredible jump in revenue. Half of 4 mill six years ago to 1/3 of 65 mill is astounding kid.

 

You are way too deep about the Kardashians, Kunoichi!!lol


FInding a way to get rich off a friggin' reality TV series IMO takes a degree of talent and media savvy.

I saw the Ray J vid with Kim and as a man there was nothing fake about her bewbies; bolt-ons don't mold and squeeze in your hands the way Kim's did in that vid.

As for her ass, there's only ONE photo of Kim wearing some non-derriere flattering jeans when she was a teenager, by itself not a telltale sign she has a fake ass.

All this talk that her bod is bionic - man-made - is mostly rumor and innuendo.
So if it's opinion we're basing this 'fact' upon, my eyes tell me her ass and tits are real.

I guess next you'll be telling me he hips are fake too!!??

Some girls like Jennifer Love Hewitt who has a very similar shape to Kim, can look radically different when they lose/gain 10-15#, but it doesn't mean they had plastic surgery as soon as their tits/ass get bigger.

You're big on conspiracy theories, Kunoichi, like posting that the Pentagon wasn't hit by an airplane,(I live outside D.C. and know people on their way to work heading towards the 14th Street bridge who SAW that jet buzz the highway before it hit!!), or posting that nonsense that Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel were behind some plot to kill a gay Black choir director because he was Obama's former lover!!

WTF!!??

Those chicks talk about so much personal shit on their show, if Kim's ass was really phoney, I kinda think one of her sisters would have called her on it, or her mother.