Kendrick Lamar Calls Out White Fan For Rapping N-Word On Stage

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by ColiBreh1, May 24, 2018.

  1. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member




     
  2. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Here's another take by a reporter for Variety who suggests getting rid of the word in rap altogether..

    http://variety.com/2018/music/opinion/kendrick-lamar-rappers-should-stop-using-n-word-1202818977/

    Excerpt:
    "...There’s no getting past the destructive power of the N-word, and Lamar’s reaction to Delaney and the round of boos she received underscore just how hurtful it remains today. But are blacks partly to blame for its continued dominance in the American vernacular?

    The current widespread success of rappers like Lamar and J Cole, whose latest album KOD is peppered with the N-word, wouldn’t be possible without the support of white fans. And as any chart-watcher knows, the commercial viability of music depends on the ability of listeners to recreate the melody and mimic the lyrics.

    If you are going to accept royalties from album sales and concert revenue from both black and white fans, you can’t legitimately expect them to consume your music differently. Would Lamar have reacted the same way to a black fan? Did he really think a starstruck teenage girl who probably has never been in front of such a massive crowd would instinctively know that she was supposed to censor herself when he doesn’t? Is it really fair to have one set of rules for black fans and another for white fans?


    Teens are impressionable, whether they’re white or black. As rap and hip hop continue to gain in popularity, white kids have increasingly co-opted the style and mannerisms as well as the syntax and speech patterns of its stars, in a sort of mass cultural appropriation. Delaney even referred to Lamar onstage as “bro,” which I personally find just as cringe-worthy as her nailing his lyrics.

    It’s time for rappers to rethink how they deliver their message. It wouldn’t lose any of its lyrical might if they dropped the N-word altogether. Lamar’s “HUMBLE.” would be just as potent with all of the N-words removed. What do they add to the song’s message anyway?

    If anything, they detract from it. Whites who don’t necessarily relate to the messages that socially conscious rap delivers may get the impression that if Lamar is OK with spreading the N-word, if Cole is cool with it, then maybe racism isn’t as much of an issue as blacks say it is. Maybe the N-word is OK for everyone to use, after all.

    As Delaney found out the humiliating way at Hangout, nothing could be further from the truth. The N-word is as harmful and hurtful as ever, and it won’t be going away anytime soon.

    For that, the kings and queens of rap and hip hop must accept some of the blame. It’s not too late to turn things around, but if a change is gonna come, it might have to start with them."

     
  4. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Can you fill men in On Gwyneth? I haven't heard anything about her saying the n-word.
     
  5. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I've listened to rap since I was probably 12 years old and I knew even at that young age to steer clear of that word. Hell, Im 36 and to this day I censor myself 100% when it comes to that word, even when I'm in the car, alone lol. Even from a very young age, I knew my place when it came to that word. I can't wrap my head around her thinking it would be ok to not censor herself??

    I know my views on bm using the n word differ from most on here, but I think that word holds a lot of power to this day and really does still have a place in music. I think wp need to respect the fact that not everything is for us...that word in particular.
     
  6. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    I like to know that too.
     
  7. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    What does Mr.Lamar and other rappers think when they use the N-word that some White could refrain? That word shouldn't be used at all since Blacks are still triggered by the word. Either with a er or a it is still bad.
     
  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    (We had a thread on it here....it's 7 pages long lol..(must re-read it)
    http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/threads/gwyneth-paltrow-and-the-n-word.21704/

    Here also is a list of blogs and media outlets that covered it..any one basically covers the incident similarly and you can Google the header of your choice to read further if you like.

    Search:
    Gwyneth Paltrow and “Niggas in Paris”: Is it ever OK for white people to use the ...
    Slate › music_box › 2012/06

    Jun 12, 2012 · The part of the Paltrow tweet that scandalized people ... “ Niggas in Paris” puts a magnifying glass to this ...

    Gwyneth Paltrow tweets “N****s in Paris” and causes controversy. Should we ...
    Slate › browbeat › 2012/06/14

    Jun 14, 2012 · “Nigga” Is Complicated for Black People, Too ... Jonah Weiner writes about Gwyneth Paltrow's tweet to the ...

    Gwyneth Paltrow on Twitter: "Ni**as in paris for real @mrteriusnash (the ...
    Twitter › gwynethpaltrow › status

    @GwynethPaltrow please dont get comfortable saying the word NIGGA. IT AINT COOL. You dont want apple and moses using it too love ...

    Gwyneth Paltrow Criticised For Tweeting 'Niggas in Paris' - Music Feeds
    Music Feeds › au › news › gwyneth-paltr...

    Jun 5, 2012 · Actor Gwyneth Paltrow has come under fire after tweeting a picture with the caption 'Niggas in Paris for real' (image of ...

    egotripland.com | THE BEST OF RACISM: 10 Twitter Responses to Gwyneth ...
    Egotripland › gwyneth-paltrow-niggas-in...

    Jun 5, 2012 · Gwyneth Paltrow tweeted “ Niggas in Paris”… ... how people get upset for Gwyneth Paltrow tweeting the title of a song.

    The Internet Erupts in Debate After Gwyneth Paltrow Tweets Out the N-Word
    Jezebel › the-internet-erupts-afte...

    Jun 4, 2012 · It happened on Friday night when Gwyneth was in Paris and ... She replied, "Ni**as in paris for real. ... She is not black; she does not have any "niggas ...

    Niggas In Paris | Know Your Meme
    Know Your Meme › memes › niggas-in-...

    Wikipedia – Niggas in Paris #Critical Reception ... Keep it Trill – Gwyneth Paltrow Criticized For 'Niggas In Paris' Tweet. The Hollywood ...

    Russell Simmons Defends Gwyneth Paltrow's Tweet (BLOG) | Global Grind
    CASSIUSLife.com › globalgrind › ...

    Jun 5, 2012 · I follow Gwyneth on Twitter and when I saw her tweet about the “N*ggas in Paris” show in PARIS, I said ...

    Gwyneth Paltrow Should Apologize for Her Careless Tweet - The Daily Beast
    The Daily Beast › gwyneth-paltrow-shoul...

    Jun 9, 2012 · Gwyneth Paltrow carelessly used a racial slur on Twitter ... she decided it was perfectly fine to tweet “N**gas in paris for ...

    Coffee Rhetoric: Gwyneth Paltrow and Them "Niggas in Paris", For Real
    www.coffeerhetoric.com › 2012/06 › gw...

    Jun 5, 2012 · So, for Gwyneth to tweet out her excitement about hip-hop taking over the planet is a good thing. She didn't mean any ...
     
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  9. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I think the perception of that word varies greatly amongst bm. I don't know a single bm irl who thinks that word is "bad".

    I think when you're able to transform something ugly into something that's your own, it becomes empowering.

    I hear it every day, at one point or another, during adult conversation between my husband and his friends/family and it's never hateful or ugly. It's always in a loving/joking manner. I know everyone is different though and this is a very hot topic for some, and I respect that.
     
  10. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    +1000.

    That's where I'm at. This generation of hip hop artists has to make a decision, either retire the N-word from their music....or stop being offended when non-Black fans choose to use the word.


    Kendrick Lamar needs to take responsibility for using that word in his own music and his selling it to the general public.

    So many of these cats are musical geniuses that they don't need the N-word to sound authentic or 'real'.

    I had so many genuine Black MEN influence me when I was growing up who NEVER used that word in my presence.
     
  11. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Lmaooo... I was re-reading the Gwyneth thread and @andreboba was going off on pages 2 & 3 ...but Petty stole the show by page 4!! :D:D
    Had everyone laughing their asses off!! :p
    Gosh, this place really needs another Petty-like humor guy!
     
  12. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    She dumb as hell. Retarded ass.
     
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  13. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I've been suggesting for years that blacks folks stop using the N-word in media & in public, if they're actually serious about not wanting non-blacks using the N-word, so there's no grey area. Most folks don't want to hear that though.
     
  14. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I never knew that. Is that the main reason youve been saying it, or do you also feel like AB, that there is no need for it in rap, period. (Or even in general speak.)
     
  15. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    I am not excusing Kendrick, but she should have seen what was coming. He is not known for being nice.
     
  16. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    And about Gwenyth, it was pathetic to see negros caping for her ass over that tweet years ago.

    Also, kendrick invited someone else on stage before her who automatically censored himself so the implied rules were laid out. N word aside though, the other annoying part was after she got stopped, she started babbling on with this "yo yo yo homie, bro, i'm not cool enough? I'm down" talk corny non black folks like to do when they realize they got outta pocket. Rather than humbling herself(I see what i did there) and taking the L, she tried pal around and joke her way out of it. Kendrick was actually really nice by letting her still rock with him.
     
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  17. Shulz021

    Shulz021 Well-Known Member

    She quoted Jay-Z & Kanye's N****s In Paris song
     
  18. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    You hit it on the head. The N word must be retired for the good of humanity.
     
  19. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    True, but they have to hear it again to inform that the N word isn't cool period. Are those Blacks and rappers love to be triggered?
     
  20. meowkittenmeow

    meowkittenmeow Well-Known Member

    I don’t think that word is ever going to be retired in the black community, and I am not bothered by the fact that some use it, even in hip hop. The white girl shouldn’t have said it plain and simple.

    As many things as people can do in the world, and everyone wants to pull that, “ if I can’t say it no one can” , crap.

    She knew better and said it anyway. I’ve met plenty of white women who sing songs and skip over the n word, it isn’t Kendrick’s fault that she is too stupid to do what basically every decent white woman is capable of.

    In regards to him setting her up, it can only be a set up if she didn’t know better and there is no damn way she didn’t know better. The fault is all hers.
     

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