Is McCain Showing His True (Racist) Colors?

Oh Jesus Christ. Do you actually like the financial industry running amok and almost destroying itself, energy companies gouging the consumer, children's toys lined with lead paint, a new fucking salmonella outbreak every other month and crumbling bridges, levees and totally substandard infrastructure? The abrogation of government regulation and oversight on the private sector that we're seeing now under the Bush administration would be just as bad if not worse if Ron Paul or Bob Barr ever managed to get into the White House and anyone who is isn't sitting on a substantial personal fortune would be suffering in short order. Libertarians are SO full of shit.

But hey, at least you're not crazy enough to vote for McCain.

 

All respect due to Brother Tony. I agree 100% with his view.

Re: Ron Paul, I really and truly don't get the hype on this guy. Every four years there's some fringe wacko guy from Lyndon LaRouche to Ross Perot (the only thing that made him legit was that he had money) to Pat Buchanan, now it's Ron Paul. Wake up. Neither he nor Barr are getting within 100 feet of the White House.

I saw some pics on the web of Ron Paul with the guy who runs racist site, that says it all.

 

Ron Paul has attracted a lot of support from across the political spectrum because he was the only Republican articulating any rational viewpoint on foreign policy and is opposed to the Iraq war. There are also a number of Republicans who seemingly view him as an agent for change within the party; however, there was no way in hell that the rabid Conservative base would have allowed him to get the nomination. Despite the fact that he has reasonable positions on foreign policy, his domestic platform is absurd. Frankly, anyone who believes that totally dismantling the federal government is going solve all of the problems that this country faces is either naive, insane or incredibly fucking stupid.

And yeah, Dr. Paul ain't very fond of black people either.

 

Very well put.

 

Yeah, there are plenty of racial issues in the Democratic party that mirror the racial divisions in this country at large. In many respects, black voters have been taken for granted by the party, and I was actually glad that the Clintons' "kitchen sink" strategy in the primary exposed some of the vileness of the Democratic establishment and the Clintons themselves because the adoration of Clinton by many in the black community always bothered me due to the effects of his economic and trade of policies. However, I'm a pragmatist, and the Democratic party, despite its flaws, is clearly the lesser of two evils. Crackpots like Ron Paul run around claiming that civil rights legislation, minority advocacy groups and attempts by the government to correct the inherent inequities in society are actually the cause of the racial divide. That is complete and utter bullshit. If Paul and his ilk had their way blacks would be much worse off and without any ability whatsoever to redress their grievances. Also, I think that it's pretty clear how the Republican party has destroyed the reputation and economic prosperity of this nation during Bush's reign, but hey, that's another conversation.

There are a ton of things I don't like about the Democrats and I'm the farthest thing from any sort of Dem party loyalist, but if you, as a black man, honestly believe that a party which has demonized black people for political gain for the past generation and has actively been working to deprive blacks of their fundamental rights to even engage in the political process in this country over the past decade (i.e. Katherine Harris in Florida in 2000, and Ken Blackwell in Ohio in 2004) is worth supporting then I really think its a waste of time to engage you in a debate on this subject.

BTW I find it funny that you took issue the one sentence I wrote about Paul's bigotry when the crux of my argument against him was about his ideas about the role and scope of the Federal Government. Like I said, I don't think that every elected Democratic official is my friend (I find many to be quite loathsome in fact), I just think that they are a better alternative at this crucial point in history to the Republicans or any third party candidate who has no chance of winning. I fancy myself to be a genuine progressive, so Ralph Nader's platform is actually much more appealing to me than Obama's centrism or the right center corporatist tendencies of the DLC Democrats like the Clintons and Harold Ford Jr., but there is no way in hell that I'm going to waste my vote on him.

 

Very insightful, well reasoned, intelligent post. While I don't agree with all you said, it is clear that you actually think about the issues and don't just jump to knee-jerk reactions. The reason I am Republican is that I firmly believe that neither party cares about black people, which means to me that we have to take care of the issues (political, social, education, financial, ect.) that mean the most to us ourselves. That takes time and money, and historically voting republican has meant lower taxes, at least it did pre "W". I just want the government to stay out of my pocket so that I can devote my time, and my money on issues that I believe are most important to me and my loved ones. While I believe that money is not the most important thing in the world, it does have a direct and profound impact on all the things that are important, health, faith, education, safety, quality of life, learning experiences, ect.

 

Yeah, who are these folks? :lol:

 

They are a bunch of mindless drones who are afraid to ever question their government because they don't want to be seen as "un-patriotic".

They're also prone to believe any and everything that Bill O'Reilly says.

 

LOL.

Or they've grown apathetic about everything but their blackberries, iPODs and cell phones. :lol: :wink:

It's scary to think that people like that vote. I have a friend who isn't interested in politics and will blindly follow and listen to everything her friend says and does. My friend is an avid W fan because her friend is one. It's quite scary...I love my friend, but she's one of the mindless drones. :cry:

 

That's why it's up to you to educate her and show her what's really going on in the world today, and take a good look inside the numbers under the Bush regime.

The numbers NEVER lie. :wink:

 

I can respect that point of view, but the theory of fiscal conservatism that the Republicans have preached for decades has never been implemented while they've held the reigns of power. All they have done is set up a system where the wealthy and large corporations steal the fruits of our labor. Over 60% of domestic and foreign based corporations who use the infrastructure paid for by working Americans to generate their profits pay absolutely no taxes whatsoever. Reagan, W., and H.W. Bush are responsible for more than 70% of the national debt, and for all of the money that they've pumped into the military-industrial congressional complex and funneled to their friends in the corporate world, what exactly do the majority of working Americans have to show for it? They've mortgaged the future of our great grandchildren for nothing.

I don't want full blown socialism or a state planned economy. I just want to see the people at the top start paying there fair share again, and for the government to start paying some attention to the general welfare of the population. I'd also like to see the lunatics who want to do away with the constitution and believe that the executive branch should be granted absolute dictatorial powers for the sake of "The War on Terror" purged from government for good.

 

People like this:

http://www.freerepublic.com

 

Once again, well researched. We truly have a rich get richer system in this country of ours. The vast majority of people have no clue what it means to be an "accredited investor" (for those of you who don't know, go to sec.gov and do a search for the term) how to qualify or why it is important. The net worth of the top 120,000 people is greater than the net worth of the bottom 180 MILLION people in our country. The sad but true fact is that the government pays attention to wishes of the 'accredited investor' crowd far more than "average joe". So, how I make a difference is by educating clients and students as to how to become part of the 4% (U.S. dept. of health and human services stats tell us that 95.7% of americans "retire" dependent on the government, family or charity) that are idependently wealthy and also have a social concience to make the world a better place for all. I don't leave it to the government to do this for me (we can all agree they should) but in my almost 40 years I see far more bungling from the government than truly effective action especially as it applies to minorities.

 

Believe me, I try! And now that the race is going to heat up in the coming months, she'll be hearing a boatload about Obama, from me. :lol:

The friend she listens to mostly, is a McCain supporter. So, I have my work cut out for me!

 

I completely agree with your point on the notion of becoming financially cognizant and the importance of creating and maintaining personal wealth in order to ensure security and independence. It's a lesson that my father made sure to drill into my head since I was young which is the reason that I earned a BS in Management and will be attending business school next year in addition to pursuing a CFA certification.

I just think that the deck has been stacked so far against hard working people that the situation in this country is becoming untenable, and we need a change.

 

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What the fuck does Kwame Kilpatrick (Kwame Brown is a basketball player) have to do with Obama? I've never heard about them having any connection to each other. Are you really sitting here insinuating that one disgraced black elected Democratic official means that all black Democrats are inept, corrupt and incapable of distinguishing themselves in leadership positions? Is that how you feel about the likes of Charles Rangel, John Conyers and James Clyburn as well? Do you draw conclusions about white Republican politicians because of the extralegal antics on the part of Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney, Tom Delay, Ted Stephens, Pete Domenici etc. during the last couple of Congressional sessions? And do you really believe that Obama has NO substantive policies whatsoever? You think any politician could actually secure the nomination of one of the two major parties to run for president without being about to clearly articulate their stance on the issues? :roll:

I was close to writing a much longer response to you on the subject of Obama's campaign platform which does in fact exist, but I'm not going waste my time. I will say that the condescending nonsense that you've written to attack the black posters here who've expressed support for Obama speaks volumes about your mindset and character.

 

What about the blacks who don’t choose to blame others for their problems?
What about the blacks who have indeed taken charge of their lives and have never asked for a hand-out?
What about the blacks who understand that life is hard and they continue to find ways around it?
What about the blacks who have worked for everything that they currently have?
What about those blacks who don’t choose to hold on to "victimhood" as you clearly put it?
What about the blacks who don’t believe in rims and have various savings accounts? What about the blacks who are educated with morals as well as an overall sense of common decency?

I just described myself with those questions. So before you go out and lump all of us together like none of us know any better including yourself, just know that you are one of us and you will always be one of us. Such a self-righteous and sanctimonious line of questioning is why conservatives like you have such a bad name these days.

You should know that when you point the finger at others, there are three pointing right back at you. Don’t look down your nose and blatantly judge other people from your high-horse or glass-house.

I see two candidates that are best suited for the job, and one who is head and shoulders above the other one. He just “happens” to have a year-round-tan.