is it genetically impossible to be faithful to one person

Depends on the man, it's different with every person, but I think there's always some compromise that has to be made. Sometimes they're small and sometimes they are huge.

 

Thanks for the positive response I suppose doing a biology degree does help with the understanding. Though even knowing this I would still be pissed if I was cheated on. But if you have had a full and frank discussion before and you are aware of your partners sexual preference I suppose it would be easier to deal with.

Slightly off topic but it is interesting how the biological "purpose" of life is to pass on your genes. Men who sleep with lots of women do not always accept the consequences. I.e. lots of pregnant women with no father for the child . Women can have abortions but again that issue is a minefeld and obv there is contraception. But often women are left to deal with the consequences.

 

True but you get to decide whether or not if you're going to deal with the consequences. If you don't want kids you don't have to have them.

 

Its not that easy Andrae and Im sure you know that.
men can leave the woman to deal w the consequences, happens very frequently.
Having an abortrion is not like going in to clean your teeth, some women will carry that mental scar for a very long time and that is not anything a man should dismiss.

Yes, there are women who force their boyfriends and spouces into parenthood in very bad ways too...

 

I know it's hard for women. It's ripping out a part of yourself. I'm just saying at least there is some type of choice. It's like being trapped in a bear trap. You can choose the leg or die but at least the choice is there.

 

not really, we dont have the choice a man does, to just simply walk away from the fetus/baby.

 

Abortions hurt men too. We don't always show our emotions. Some men feel its easier to walk away but not all men. Some men are real STAND UP type of guys.

 

True, women have a choice but like FG says, so do men. Men can choose to be a father, or walk away. Now for some men the second is something they would never consider an option, so perhaps that's why they don't consider that they have a choice in the matter. Just as abortion is an option for women and yet many could never consider it under any circumstances. Just because you don't consider something an option for you personally, doesn't change that the option exists, or that you have the ability to choose or not choose it.

 

Yeah but we don't have that physical/emotional bond they do. FG all I'm saying is if you want to have an abortion and I don't want you to tough for me and if I don't want it and you do tough shit for me 17% minimum is coming out of my check. Truthfully if the guy walks away then you gotta take a little responsibility on that because only a douche bag would do that. No decent guy would ever do that, so maybe you should be messing with guys like that.(I mean you in the general sense)

 

I didn't say everything that I wanted to say but I agree with you.

 

I have to respectfully disagree because there are no legal implications for the female choice but there are for the male.

 

You deserve rep for acknowledging that Andrae. I know men who think attachment occurs after a child is born, and while I can't speak for all women, for me personally that was not the case. That bond was there almost immediately.

 

It's life growing inside you. There's no way I can possibly know how that feels. It's another being reliant on you from the moment of it's conception. That's amazing.

 

Alright well, admittedly I didn't consider that aspect of the issue. I would never expect, nor seek support from a man who didn't want to acknowledge or be a part of his child's life. It just wouldn't mean anything to me unless it was freely given, just like a man who marries a woman just because she gets pregnant also makes no sense to me. You don't have to be married to a child's mother to be a father, and if that's done out of a sense of guilt or obligation alone, then that's not the right reasons IMO.

Edit: My personal opinion in no way applies to everyone and I have no issue with other women or men who seek child support for their children. I understand that everyone's circumstances are different and financial support is sometimes necessary. It's merely something I would not do.

 

You definitely didn't need the last part. If anyone got offended then they clearly didn't read the first part. People are often too quick to get offended. You're not responsible for that sweetheart.

 

Yes, but the woman gives up much more of herself in raising a child. Child support doesn't cover all of the costs of raising a child.

But, I don't want to get into that whole issue of women forcing unwanted children on men, etc. I can't even go there. I think anyone who uses another human being for that is disgusting and makes me wish that a parenting license existed. LOL.

I absolutely understand where you're coming from, but I wanted to point out that while a man may be legally obligated to pay child support for a child he never wanted, that woman is paying that much and more in monetary support, emotional support, etc for that child, too.

Just sayin'. :smt023

 

I have no doubt about that - for sure - I was just talking about the men that dont.
There are men that just dont care at all and leave a woman or usually several women in the wake...to do all the decissionmaking on their own...
and Andrae - yes - that is equally true, lots of women make horrible decissions, messing with men they shouldnt have.

The guy I dated before my X: we had a discussion around that subject.. his take was:
"I have dropped bombs on people in Afganistan, so what is the fucking big deal about a little shitty abortion".

Needless to say, I never got into bed with him.. not that I was planning on a pregnancy or unsafe sex, but the attitude was so NOT cool with me that I even wanted to mess with that dude.

 

Damn skippy it's impossible!

I've never been faithful in a relationship. Never will.

 

LIES all LIES!! :smt058