Is America Really Ready for A Black President?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by swirlman07, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    The obvious answer would be yes, since he's a sitting president. Yet, it seems that the issues confronting him are bound up as much in race as politics.

    When John McCain's citizenship was questioned during his presidential run, the question was answered and we never heard anything else. Now, despite even the publishing of his long form birth certificate and other authentications, this issue lives on with people still challenging his birth record.

    Donald Trump's latest effort is to paint Obama as an unqualified undergraduate student whose admission to Columbia and Harvard surely was based on affirmative action. Correspondingly, no one ever questioned the academic performance of the second Busch, or the fact that he was a legacy candidate, which is a true preference admission.

    It's reported in continuing polls that more than 50% of republicans believe that Obama isn't an American, while others contend that he's secretly Muslim.

    Why is it so hard for White Americans to accept the fact that a man with African American heritage was able to become the president of the U.S.?

    Note the article below that was published online and talks about this issue as well.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theti...ont-end-race-related-attacks-on-the-president
     
  2. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    Hello. :)

    I am sure that you do not mean to paint us all with the same brush. Not only did many, many white Americans vote for Obama, but some of us caucused for him and worked on the campaign....;)

    That said, I will not dispute the fact that there is part of white America that has trouble with Obama not because of ideology (although this is how it's often framed) but because of the color of his skin. Some of these are people who are just plain bigoted. Many of them will likely never accept a woman as president either, and the results of the Democratic primary suggest that we may be less ready for a woman than for an African-American man. I say this as a woman who enthusiastically supported the Obama candidacy, incidentally.

    Outside of this core of racists (which I like to believe is a small group), there's a chunk of people who believe what they see on Faux news... sad but true. This is true not only with respect to the stuff they report about Obama, incidenally. A colleague was telling me that a survey of Faux News viewers revealed that something like 90% of them believed that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq!

    So, I guess my answer in short is (1) much of white America is ready, (2) some part of white America is racist, and (3) Fox News makes you dumber.
     
  3. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    This is, for the record, a sincere statement rather than a scolding one!
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    ah come on man. I am tired of this stuff. You ask a question that we all already know the answer to. You already know more white people voted for Barack Obama than black people. That makes it hard to believe your question. Not only this but a majority of white americans believe and accept the fact that Barack is president. Just because you are president does not entitle one to get a free pass critique no matter the race. They challenged John Kerry's military experience. They tried to impeach Bill on getting a blow job. They made comments on Bush's incompetence. Why do you think Barack is going to be any different?

    Like Bill O'riely once said, 10% of the population is nuts. You got the people who still think the planet is flat. You got the people who think the moon landing is fake. and you are forever going to have people who think Barack isn't a born American. no matter what he does. He could literally build a time machine and take them there and they still wouldn't believe it.

    Concerning the hot air ballon known as Trump, he is a media whore. I could careless about Obama's grades 15 to 20 years ago. The reality is academia is a poor simulation to the real world. Trump is proof of that with his bankruptcies(best school and still crappy business) and learning how to get around them in the real world.
     
  5. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I didn't take it that way at all. It's just a general venting for the continued hard time being given to Obama, not by all white people, obviously, but by a sufficient number of right leaning people that it's distressing. Believe me, I don't blame all white Americans for anything. I'm not one to play the race card often or lightly.
     
  6. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I agree 100%
     
  7. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    *

    Oh come on, everybody knows that neither Alaska or Hawaii are "real" states lol...

    I am completely kidding. I love President Obama and he would make me proud to be an American if I were one. The questioning of his birth certificate and implications of poor academic performance are just ludicrous. I mean, who do you think would win an IQ test - Bush or Obama?
     
  8. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Palin, lol.
     
  9. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    So, is that a joke, that you aren't an American. When did Euros start moving to Kentucky?
     
  10. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Only if it was a geography question about Russia, lol. She watches Russians from her back porch every day.
     
  11. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Palin is very smart. She is the smartest woman in poltics, business, science, in fact, she is the smartest woman in the whole US. I can't wait till she gets in the white house.
     
  12. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I heard that she and Obama had an encounter in the Lincoln room. Now, she's preserving that blue dress with Obama's DNA as evidence.
     
  13. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    There are other countries in North America other than the U.S., dingdong
     
  14. z

    z Well-Known Member

    North Dakota?
     
  15. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Yes, of course, but you weren't very specific, so one assumption is as good as another, EH!
     
  16. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    lmao
     
  17. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    You got it, ya hoser :D
     
  18. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Ontario? I spent a lot of time there in past years, Toronto often, Quebec and Montreal.
     
  19. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Nope - never had the opportunity to go that far east except to transfer in Toronto on my way to Calgary, which is where the I was born. Lived in Alberta until age 11, when my parents moved us to the U.S.

    My dad is originally from Louisiana, though, so I have that whole north/south dichotomy to my upbringing.
     
  20. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Ahh, so that means that at times you look in the mirror and call yourself a "yank".
     

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