Is a WW Racist Because She Refuses To Date BM?

All these conversations of WW not wanting to date BM tires me to be sincere with all of you. Its something that exhausts the hell out of me. I would like to contribute my $0.02 but i really cannot be bothered because issues like this make me go angry. Besides, what more could i say that hasnt been covered here?

But i have this to say. White women who dont want to date/marry black men because "daddy and mommy would be mad" are just a bunch of silly cry-babies. Not silly because they arent dating BM. Silly because they are still tied to the apron strings of their parents and cannot make up their damn minds.

Secondly, white women who think that dating black men would affect their success in society are just outright stupid. Its a shame that, in this day of ours, vanity is so prevalent and humans cannot look beyond the false clouds of materialism.

Many white women dont wanna admit that they benefit from the societal priviledges which i find slightly delusional. Lets face it, WW are in the majority in the USA and there is a huge number who would never touch a BM. Admit it or not, most WW would rather go with a WM if he was making the same amount as a BM, had everything a rich black man had and was just as nice as a BM. Why? I want you guys to use your brains to figure that out.

Lastly, the hair on the back of my neck stands right up when white people tell me they are not racist because they have black friends and listen to hip-hop. I keep thinking, "So what if you have black friends, if you think negative of them and use racial slurs, you are no different to a Klansman or a skinhead, only that you practice your own racism secretly".

In conclusion, is a WW racist for not dating black men? That depends on the context on which she makes that decision. If she wont date one but wants to have great sex with one, she without a doubt is. If she wont because she wants to stick with her own kind, she is in no way. If she isnt because mom and dad dont want her to, she is a big fool.

 

Racism is the belief of superiority and prejudice against someone of another color or 'race.' It doesn't neccessarily have to be hatred, like you seem to believe it does, nor does it have to affect YOUR monetary wealth, and what does your finances have to do with racism towards black men in general anyway? Why the hell did you bring that up?

I'm surprised that even the great 7 doesn't even know, with all of your tired rants about Ugly Ducklings, femicunts, and the like.

Your opinions are nothing but emotional, and I'm not the only one who can see that, so if your *cough* logic is true about emotions canceling out someone's argument and making them automatically wrong, then ALL the things YOU have said in this conversation ARE OBSOLETE. Go back and re-read YOUR emotional contributions, sir. ('That is bullshit and you know it, STRAW MAN!!!' :roll: )

Racism is a form of prejudice, and singling out black men for sex just because they can't find a 'good white man' is racist, but continue to defend them, but then whine about them over and over again, like you always do.

What does the alleviation of suffering have to do with anything that was said in here? And, if you don't care so much, then why are you still arguing with me?

This last sentence is just MORE retarded projection at me.

By the way, this whole argument between you an I got started because YOU took something I said out of context and then attacked me, and now, just like the hypocrite YOU are, you are still arguing with me about how 'refusing to date a black man only means that a white woman isn't attracted to him', and if you believe that, then all of my suspicious about YOUR INTELLECT are far beyond accurate.

Com' on now, don't tell me that YOU actually believe that if a white woman refuses to date a black man, then it only means that she 'isn't attracted to him' and that's it, but don't tell me, I'm wrong and emotional, as always, huh, Seven? :lol:

Something tells me that I'm striking a nerve with ya...



Let's use common sense here. Refusal, AND attraction, ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Many white women everywhere in the world refuse to date black men, and some of them ARE racist, and some of them ARE NOT. It all depends on the reason WHY THEY DO, and just saying that 'well, they are just not attracted to us', is ludicrous and laughable. :lol:

So, I laugh at you about it. :lol:



I'm very disappointed in you though. I thought you would've gave me a better dispute than this.

I hope I have made myself clear now.

 

To Cris, Pey, Chosen, and Malachi:


Thanks to all of you. YOU ALL are saying what I have been trying to get 7 and others to understand. Mr. Pey asked a question about whether or not these white women are racist, BUT, it all depends on THEIR INDIVIDUAL REASONS, and if THOSE REASONS are something along the lines of black men being 'inferior', 'unworthy' or some other stereotypical drivel, then THEY ARE RACIST, and if these women allow their friends and families to think for them about it, then just like ALL of you guys said, something is really wrong with their heads. They are grown women, and do not need anyone else's approval to live their lives the way they want to, especially in matters of the heart.

With this said, I totally agree with all of you.

 

:lol: Now you are defining your meaning to prejudice to suit your argument for racism, when, prejudge and racism in context ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. Who states that a WW preference for refusal to date BM has any bearing on stereotypical accusations!? Not I!!! I repeat, there can many reasons for that thought which has nothing to do with superiority over one.

More irrelevant appeals about Ugly duckling and feminazi eh!? You never stop! It's clear to me that your argument depends on the play of racism, when, you haven't the slightest understanding of the context which differentiates between prejudice; openly, you are confusing the two. Understanding the difference between denotation and connotation is important to understanding definitions and how concepts are used. As I stated, racism IN CONTEXT can only hurt monetary wealth: this logic escapes you.

Your arguments depend upon an ambiguity in the meaning of words. One meaning of the word makes one of the premisses true, but it makes another of the premisses false. The alternative meaning makes the second premiss true, but makes the first premiss false. In this case of racial superiority. Your meaning is only partly true and the last premiss is false, making your meaning extremely vague because each independent clause must be interdependent to make logical sense; I am not surprised though because most American definitions are vague. Do you remember my meaning regarding racism:

Did I not say there can be MANY reasons for a WW not finding BM attractive OR not wanting to date BM which has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM!? Consider for a moment: they may just NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH IT! But I know, you want to make up an phantom explanation for this phenomenon because you refuse to believe it.

Clearly, the only illogical person here is YOU with your phantom explanation of racism, damming other members with faint praise because you lack a single thought of your own, and rhetorical ploys to appeal to some else's emotions. Also, you even lack the metacongitve skills to recognise these facts. The person using Straw Man tactics are YOU but let me define Straw Man for you to:

The argument misrepresents a position that it seeks to refute. By refuting the position as misrepresented, the argument creates the impression that it has refuted the position that is actually held by opponents.

Obviously, it took you 5 pages of worthless babble to define racism and your meaning does not even hold weight to the test of logic, nor the critique of reason -- making it psychological investments indeed.

More magic words!? "Retarded" and "projection" SHAMING LANGUAGE!

Can you present a theist that is of your own thought without trying to create an bandwagon effect!? It seems none of the posters you have praised recognises your assertion.

I haven't I stated before there can be many reason for that thought!?

 

ok 7seven lets clear this all up ok?

Question 1: What do you call it when a white woman REFUSES to date all black man (even if she liked his personality and found him attractive) after SAYING she does not believe in IR dating, blacks and whites should not mix in that way, and that she is too good for black men (or non-white men)? That is not racist to you? Whatever you want to call it, that does not sound wrong to you? Mean? Egotistical? And do not say to me, "well if she finds him attractive, obviously she would date him". I said that too when my ex-girlfriend told me she couldn't date a black man no matter how good he looked simply due to him being BLACK (this was after we broke up and after she decided black men could be her friends and in my case fuck buddy but not her boyfriend or husband). That very statement alone mutes any argument that feels these statements are not racist, prejudiced, or discriminatory (<<<HINT HINT 7seven, THESE ARE BAD WORDS, BAD THINGS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE!!!!!). Yet fools pointlessly continue in their futile attempt to still argue them anyway, so I welcome them. I enjoy making people look stupid so let the games begin.

Question 2: What do you call it when a white woman says she finds mixed babies ugly? She "prefers" white babies to mixed ones? That sounds nice to you seven. If a woman says that you and uses that as a reason not to date you, you would say "okay", well let's hang out anyway. Or would you look at her like, "if a baby is half black, it is disgusting to you, and yet you want me, a FULLY black person, to hang out with you?" HOW can you not be offended by such a comment 7seven?
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Many people have been saying since I "refuse" to date black women, how am I any different or less "racist" than a white women who refuse to date black men? Well first of all, that very thought is idiotic since I am black so how can I be racist against my own kind (unless I hated myself and all blacks which isn't true, or I'd have committed suicide by now).

Second of all, I never said I refuse to date black women. In fact I have stated many times my love (well lust rather) for Hoops from the VH1 show Flavor of Love. She is black a gorgeous and I'd fuck her or date her in a second. I love Christina Milian, Ashanti, Mya, Alicia Keys (ok she's half black but you get the point), Stacey Dash, and several other gorgeous black women. It just so happens though that black girls like this are about 1 in every 10,000 with most I encounter looking more like Shar Jackson (the black ex-wife of Kevin Federline) than Janet Jackson.

Yet from my experience about 80% of every white girl I see is in some way or another attractive to me. But if I met a hot white, Hispanic, black, Indian, or Martian girl for all that matters, I'd be with her. White girls are my PREFERENCE, but I exclude NO RACE! If I find her attractive she has a chance. Some white women disregard all blacks for the simple reason that they are black, thus saying I am TOO GOOD for a black man. Either A: Are you arguing that nothing is wrong with that? Or B: are you arguing that if a white woman refuses to date blacks it does not necessarily mean she is saying she is TOO GOOD for them?

If example B is the case 7seven, what does it say to you when she says that? She meets two men, she finds both attractive, likes both of their personalities, and the black guy even treats her better, yet she chooses the white man. I want to hear the nonsense you spit now to try and rationalize that?

 

You forget a women's BIOLOGICAL PROGRAMMING peyback, it sees NO racism; you should know by now that WW in their demands on men are the highest -- YOU HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER HER and her family financially. True, there are more progressive WW when it comes to dating interracially; but, this is due upon many factors, amongst others, one of them being your financial standing. Can you compete with her in Fortress Caucasia!? If not, she will see you as an "easy lay" and nothing more. I have always said, there are 2 types of men in this world for women. Those for fucking and those for security. Alpha and Beta -- is it fair!? Nope, but it is REALITY! Sure, there are PLENTY of WW who just want to fuck me, sure as there those who only want to fuck me, there 10 who want to marry me.

True, prejudice thoughts MAY lead to racist actions. Certain actions require firm conviction, but probable actions require only tentative conviction -- that is to say, we should recognise racism with the same strength as cause and effect would allow. An example of cause and effect: the next time you see a "hot chick" with a man who is "average looking" he has one of two things going for him: Big member and great sex, or his pockets are deep -- cause and effect, action and reaction. However preferable it might be otherwise, we can’t be absolutely certain about quite a lot of matters -- especially those matters that focus on racism. Truly!? This is all due to natural selection, not Racism!

This is just a silly question, for one ALL white women would "prefer" white babies, vacuous thoughts are one thing but fairness demands we add something to this query. Do you prefer white babies over mixed babies, or mixed babies over black ones!? By your logic, if anyone has a preference, then they are racist. If you have preference over one, then, by default, that makes you racist also.

 

I said that racism is a form of prejudice (not prejudge), if you actually read it, and a part of that prejudice in regards to racism is the belief that a certain 'race' isn't good enough to fuck or marry, along with other things like, 'they are too lazy', 'they are all womanizers' or 'they are all broke', so that qualifies as a superiority complex, and didn't I say earlier that this only applies to SOME white women who refuse to date black men? Your dyslexia is showing.

Talking about 'monetary wealth' being the context of racism for a white woman's preference in black men is irrelevant, and this seems to confuse YOU, since you're the only one who can't understand it. And, whining about what I mentioned about your Ugly Duckling and femianzi rants is only stupider, since you asked a question about what a racist white woman is when you of all people should know.

I already said earlier that their reason WHY, would determine whether or not they are racist, and all you did was say that same thing about racism I said in a different way, and then threw it back at me.

My phantom explanation of racism? What about YOURS? All you did was define it by 'monetary wealth', throughout 5 pages, so who's being vague now?

And, Straw Man tactics are the type of tactics you use over and over again, like playing the victim, repeating what I said back to me in a different formation of sentences, using words like 'emotional' and 'illogical' over and over again, and then claiming that I don't have an opinion of my own, when I have voiced my own opinion throughout the thread, and all you did as come in here and back up pkd, ChocKent, karmacoma, and others who only said that 'it's just their preference', so who doesn't have their own opinion, other than you? This is the same thing you usually do in every thread whenever you try to expose someone's 'hypocrisy' in the forum discussions. Too bad you're the only one who doesn't even get what several of us is saying, but then call it 'vague American definitions' to suit your agenda, and then calling me Straw Man.

You mean like your magic words, such as illogical, ignorant, moronic, and sheep?

I should be asking you the same thing. You keep playing the victim, accusing me of not having my own thoughts because you can't understand them (not to mention that you're the only one who can't) and then trying to make me look like I'm somehow creating some sort of bandwagon effect, when you keep saying the same thing over and over again, but then rambling on about what metacognitive skills I lack about this and that, because you can't fathom what I and others are saying. Your arguments are not only vague, but also unoriginal, like your daily diatribes about your favorite subjects.

I haven't I stated before? You call that a sentence? :lol:

Didn't I explain the difference between refusal and attraction? What can't you understand about that?

These posts contradict EVERYTHING you have said throughout our argument with one another. And, I'm the hypocrite who can't think for himself?

 

You're still going at it with this discussion. I will just conclude this discussion by saying,"who cares"?You don't want to be some women that don't want you. Its just easier to stay away from these people. You're not going to change these type of women minds. There are plenty of good woman to dwell on some women who you could care less about.

 

No, no. You stated prejudice is a belief of superiority, when prejudice is just the opposite: preconceived notions of inferiority. This is where your meaning fails: "Race" is not relevant to racism, because there are whites who are racist against whites, black racist that racist against blacks, etc. etc. Pointing out "colour" is illogical to your meaning with regards to racism because it sees no colour -- THIS LOGIC ESCAPES YOU.

Talking about monetary wealth IS THE CONTEXT OF RACISM. How does racism hurt you and I SardonicGenie!? Racism can not be a thought, it would have to be something put into practice correct because it hurts us how!? How does this correlate to women SardonicGenie!? Even with your meaning, racism would have to be the physical manifestation of another thought correct!? So how can racism BE THOUGHT!? Racism IS THE EFFECT of prejudice thoughts(the cause) and you still can have prejudice thoughts AND NEVER BE RACIST. Do you get yet, let it sink mate!

This is why I dismissed your irrelevant appeal to racist white women: Feminazi is MY MEANING OF RACIST WW, NOT YOUR OWN.

Where have I misrepresented the FACTS to suit an argument!? Have I pulled OTTER IRRELEVANT THREADS TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT AGAINST YOU!? Those regarding your phantom meaning and ignorance!? Nope. I prove your ignorance regarding the subject at hand, your suffrage is due to misunderstanding racism and 7Seven is only here to teach you logic. You can try all the emotional appeals you like, it still amounts to nothing. 7Seven will keep you honest about debates and will point out all your irrelevancies and debater's tricks, that you do not even know you are doing -- this points out you lack metacongtive skills to recognise your fallacious statements.

What did you miss here!? I am only picking for information that she COULD BE RACIST. Rhetorical ploys keeps people honest. You try, but I recognise it and you do not recognise, that I recongise it.

Was I not describing NATURAL SELECTION!? Did I call any of these women racist!? Again, Straw Man tactics.

 

Wow pal. How can racism hurt you if there is no monetary effect? Are you fucking serious? How can a black man in America seriously make such a comment?

When a white person calls you a FUCKING NIGGER, that does not "hurt you"?

When a white woman you really were into says to you, "Sorry I don't date NIGGERS", that wouldn't "hurt you"?

When a group of white KKK skin heads jump you while you walk home because they are racist against blacks and beat the shit out of you and take your wallet, that did not "hurt you"?

When does racism hurt according to you? When a racist employer doesn't hire you due to your race? Thanks to affirmative action and equal opportunity laws that is not possible these days (I am sure it still happens in some places but it is illegal). Racism goes FAR beyond how it impacts your wallet. It impacts your heart. What idiot teacher or text book or TV show or preacher told you this concept (you obviously are not stupid enough to have come to such a conclusion yourself)?

 

are you some kind of masochist?

how is any black man going to find a suitable white woman if he goes about with his belief that every white woman is a "potential racist" out to "hurt" him if they reject you,even because of his race. why even bother dating white women? or living in proximity to whites for that matter?

 

First lets be clear -- I am not a "black American." I am a "Black Brit" and we only had subtle laws projecting us against racism, and extremely weak affirmative action and discrimination laws, none of which would project accumulative monetary wealth like American blacks have. Shit, White Brits like the Nigerians more that native black brits and Africans want nothing to do with black African decedents. So how does one survive!? Spare me your pity emotional appeals, I guarantee it pails in comparison to what I have seen.

I do not know how many bleeding times I have to say this here @ WW/BM.com, 7Seven can care less of some trailer trash WW who uses magic words like nigger, HER PREJUDGE THOUGHTS CAN NOT EFFECT ME IN ANY WAY or you in ANY PHYSICAL WAY. I am not some feeble minded little kid, who gets hurt by such pure pitiness. Grow a bloody set and improve ON YOURSELF. It is ALL IN YOUR MIND, its psychological not METAPHYSICAL.

When IS it racism!? When there prejudice thoughts begin to hurt you physically, this is what I have been saying thus far, this in includes autonomy and has THE BIGGEST EFFECT AND MOST NOTICEABLE EFFECT thereof.

 

Wrong.

I stated that racism is a form of prejudice, (they go hand in hand), meaning that it plays a part in racism, and just because whites can be racist towards other whites, and blacks can be racist towards other blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and whoever, DOES NOT mean that racism is illogical in my meaning, because in this case regarding Pey's thread, it DOES pertain to skin color, and if racism didn't see any color, then YOU certainly wouldn't have been attacked by white racists, and Pey wouldn't have had a racist white woman leave him 3 YEARS after being his personal plaything, and this country (along with some others in the world) wouldn't have as many problems as it has with race-relations, now wouldn't it?

There wouldn't be ANY hate groups or any segregation of any kind, if YOUR meaning of racism was the only truth. Along with YOUR and Pey's experiences as proof of the skin factor, this logic seems to escape YOU, and ONLY YOU.

Monetary wealth doesn't constitute all of it. Racism against blacks in America does have some bearing on monetary wealth, but if you actually believe that it's all about monetary wealth, then something is really wrong with your head. There are plenty of whites and blacks who are racist against one another, and will either take money from the hands of one another, or refuse it, as well as even shake their hands or don't shake their hands, no matter what the reason may be, so you should really get out more, if you truly believe what you are saying.

As for your opinion about white women being feminazi, I never said that it was mine, The whole time, I said that it was yours, and ONLY yours.

You didn't have any facts to being with, and to say that those' OTTER 'threads I 'pulled' are irrelevant over and over again., means that you weren't paying attention. I didn't 'pull' the threads. I only quoted what YOU posted IN THOSE THREADS, and the type of white women YOU were speaking about are the kind of white women that Pey was talking about when he started this very thread. A lot of these white women who 'refuse' to date black men just because 'they are not attracted to black men' sing a different song in many fetish sites/clubs all around the USA and on the web, and as much as you complain about this sort of thing, you came in here, and defended them anyway. If they were irrelevant, then the posts from you in those threads, wouldn't relate to this thread about racist white women in some way, and they do, that's why I quoted you from those "OTTER" threads you deem as irrelevant, but guess what? Whenever someone disagrees with you in a debate about something, you automatically scream such things as, 'foul-ball', 'irrelevant', 'vague' 'Straw Man', and other words that are 'shamming language' to you, because YOU can't seem understand the opposing opnions of other posters. By the way, a language is a human dialect, consisting of many words spoken with an accent of the tongue, so when you cry 'shamming language' only over 2 words that are a part of the English Language, it makes you seem really uneducated, but let me guess, if I don't agree with you, it's because I don't have my own opinion, right? OK, I'll always agree with you from now on, that way I'll have my own opinions, and not be shamming you to death. :wink:

Uh, rhetorical? Ploy?

You said that you think 'she's quite the racist', and that it doesn't help ANY black man to get involved with her, unless they are 3rd class citizens and like drama, which tells me that YOU would probably like her more than you think, but then rant and rave about these types of white women over and over again, like you do every SINGLE day in here.

What you said to those women didn't have anything to do with Natural Selection.

There you go again with the Straw Man cry. I did NOT once caricature or stereotype you in any way for any reason, so how am I playing Straw Man again? Do you even know what that means?

 

And to think, he was attacked in his homeland by white racists as well. :lol:

 

Seems like you both agree, but you still try to argue with him.

This is irrelevant, and besides the point.

The physical is ONLY one of the manifestations of racism, so why you still arguing with us about something you seem to agree to a certain extent about? You just answered your own question about 'when is it racism' also, in your previous paragraph.

 

Glad you agree with us then.

Women don't take into account the Natural Selection gene due to racism. Natural Selection doesn't necessarily play a part in racism, especially when a conscious decision to 'stay within own kind' is made. THAT isn't natural.

It's good that you seem to know how 'ALL' white women truly feel about mixed kids.

And to add, having a preference doesn't necessarily make ANYONE racist, depending on the reason for that preference, and once again, you are confusing attraction with refusal to date someone of a different skin hue because of racism.

 

You continue to define racism loosely, even the subtle forms which have no bearing on you and are irrelevant, they are irrelevant because it would make everyone in the world racist. We ALL have prejudice thoughts but these thoughts may never materialise into racism. To say anyone is racist because they tell you they do not date BM because of his colour is ridiculous and purely illogical. Show me a racism that can do you more harm then that of your autonomy, then, I will concede to your meaning. How does Scarface define it:
First you get the money,
then you get the power,
after you have the power, you get the respect,
then the women will come......... or something to that effect......

My experiences are not what peyback's or any other BM who agrees with him were, not even close. We essentially agree on nothing, and my experiences never count when presenting an argument for OR against racism. How many times do I have to state this fact!? You only continue to APPEAL TO MY EXPERIENCES, when, I state they were ONLY my experiences, making them personal accounts; WHICH STILL HAS NO BEARING ON MY ARGUMENT with regards to racism, we call this critical thinking, intellectual distance between me and my ideas: auguring from a position of KNOWLEDGE not IGNORANCE, differentiating emotion and reason. It is what logicians do. Riddles me this: why does this logic escape you!?

Critical thinking, then, must allow for the existence of ambiguities, vagueness, and misunderstandings in our communications. So I point out these fallacies and will continue to do so because you do not recognise them. A person who tries to think critically must endeavour to eliminate those factors as much as possible: for example, your vagueness regarding racism, it is too loosely defined making ALL subtle forms of prejudice racist -- I call shit on that, its illogical. It implies I must GIVE UP INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS not to have prejudice thoughts or STATE one has preference over another and explain why that is. Do you understand why racism continues to exists!? It is because THOSE WHO DISAGREE with certain ideas and their oppositions do not give them or TRY TO CENSOR their idea without overbearing cynicism and without considering qualifications, middle ground, compromises, or alternative positions. 7Seven, WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. Even when you are not there taking the lumps, 7Seven will be there taking the chin shots straight up.

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Natural selection is not embedded with racism, if this were true by your definition, then, WW will never want to to be with BM in any way or form. How would they benefit from it!?

 

You continue to put words in my mouth about what I said, and how irrelevant it is just for the sake of arguing. Do you even know what you are talking about, let alone know why you are still arguing with me?

I stated (once again) that racism is a form of prejudice, meaning that NOT all prejudices are racist. How hard is that for you to grasp without whining about what you think I said all the time?

To say that anyone isn't racist because they don't want to date black men is ridiculous and purely illogical. How isn't that racist? Do you think you know how ALL white women feel about black men, as if you are some omniscient being who can see into their minds? And, since you have 'ALL' the 'sense' in the world compared to everyone else, how do you explain the white and black racists, who openly admit and call themselves racists for their hatred, ignorance, or bigotry? Are they just prejudice like YOU think? Let me guess, they wouldn't be racist or prejudice towards YOU because you aren't a black American, right? Do you really think that they will cut YOU some slack just because you can't identify with our 'black' problems? You probably still don't think that you are stupid either, do you?

The only types of people they care anything about, are those of white skin color, and if you are of a certain hue that they don't take kindly to, all the money, education, and resources in the world won't stop these people from either slaying you or attacking you. Don't you get that already?

What the hell does 'autonomy' have to do with racism altogether? If someone is racist, then your 'autonomy' doesn't matter to them, unless they are what you would call 'Ugly Ducklings' or 'feminazis.' It's anatomy.

And, racism does much more harm to blacks then simple 'autonomy' as you put it, that's why the world 'still rules under white supremacy and always will', as you stated before. I could give many examples, but they would just go over your head, like everything else that you complain about in your misunderstandings.

Scarface wasn't talking about racism, genius, and this is irrelevant to the discussion, furthermore, many racists don't care about how much money, power, and respect black celebrities have, in fact, they blame them for almost everything that's wrong with America anyway, so what's your point?

You have many white people, who not only don't want their kids to go to school with black kids, but they don't want to work with black people in the workplace, that's why so many of them are either on welfare, or self-employed as contractors. Along with all of this, they teach and home-school their kids to hate blacks, and actually move them and themselves away, into all white communities, so that they don't have to be around blacks, so all this crap about money being the only solution (especially when whites control most of the monetary wealth in most of the world) is absurd. A lot of black celebrities, entrepreneurs, and business professionals, are not only paid salaries by whites, but also bought out of their franchises by whites, and even with all the money they have from it, they still have to deal with the same kind of racism that poorer blacks have to deal with. Money doesn't make people overlook skin color. This isn't a fairytale we are talking about here, this is REALITY.

I never said that they were the same, did I?

Then you never had anything to say from the beginning. You just admitted to wasting everyone else's time, as well as yours.

How many times are you going to keep saying that over and over again? Why the hell do you keep saying that for?

That's what I was doing, and you only wasted my time by repeating yourself over and over again, saying the same boring and muddled things repeatedly.

You really are slow, aren't you? You cry about my defined subtle forms of prejudice when I never defined all prejudices as racism, and stereotyping is a form of racism too, especially when it's done deliberately by outright racists who know that they are being racist, but continue to sympathize with them, since that's what you do best, but don't know what the hell you are defending them for, or even arguing with me about.

By the way, you're a hypocrite for still debating with me about this and acting all offended by a discussion that doesn't even pertain to you, and your individual preferences. A really SLOW hypocrite at that.

Are you out of your mind? Nobody is forcing you to give up your individual rights for any reason, nor do I care what YOU are prejudiced about, and this conversation is not about you, so what the hell are you crying about now?

Yes, they do. People do ALL THE TIME. YOU don't have to necessarily hear it or even see it for yourself. What kind of fake logic is this?

So, you're fighting for the rights of white racists now? And, who told you that you had to give up any rights about anything? Where did you read that? You're just treading water again, as usual.....

and, now, you still whine about my 'overbearing' cynicism, when that's also ANOTHER irrelevant addition to your argument, and all of this crap you wrote, doesn't cancel out anything I said, nor does it make anything I said false, and your idea of compromising prejudices with middle grounds and alternative positions is MORE bullshit. It seems like to me that if we were talking about black men refusing to date white women, then you would be in full agreement with me on this issue.

I said that Natural Selection doesn't have anything to do with racism, and this is a rhetorical question.

Now, let's back up a bit here...

You admitted in this above post, that the racism is THIS country can be subtle, but then dispute the subtly of any racism in here? :roll:

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and then, you also say that, even though the racism in other countries like Russia, are more overt and extreme, it's BETTER than here???



So, by your logic, white racists and supremacists being overt in their bigotry, hostile, and hatred, is not as racist as the subtly of being an 'Ugly Duckling' or a' feminazi?' :roll:



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But, wait, you also say that racism only pertains to monetary wealth, and you even quoted Scarface the Rapper on that. :lol:

I still don't understand why even YOU of all people defend racist white women, who give racist reasons not to date black men. Could it possibly be this?

1. These are the same kind of women YOU ALWAYS whine about, but keep sleeping around with, and getting involved with.

2. By saying this, YOU are, once again, being hypocritical in HERE. This is limiting other people's prejudices, is it not? :lol: I thought you were all for individual rights! :lol:

3. This type of racism still exists because you don't give these types of white women your oppositions to it.

4. You are expecting these women to not only give up their individual rights to a 'preference' for 'you' or' us' over white men, but also have to explain why that is, and you already made your own conclusions as to WHY that is, but I guess you would rather have them behave the exact opposite way in a negative manner towards you then.

I thought that these types of women could ONLY be prejudice, according to what you say in this particular debate. Guess not.

And, I thought that monetary wealth was the ONLY real form of racism. Guess not on that too.

It seems that you, 7, can NEVER be wrong about anything in your own little world, and that not only do YOU worship drama (like I've pointed before a few times) but you project your own thoughts, feelings, and intentions onto others in your daily diatribes constantly, along with your desperately needing the last word in order to soothe the nerves of your super ego, so I will leave the topic now on that note. It's been fun.

 

I wasn’t going to respond to this blasphemy again, with you maverick style approach, which only for the sake of argument disagreeing with what I say, but actually saying nothing to combat my 3 original assertions. My bid for Individual freedoms, your weak meanings of racism and prejudice.


The only person who doesn't get it is YOU! Your meaning of racism is weak and broadly defined, it doesn't pinpoint any facets of overt racism: I proved that fact, until you can prove to me that racism is a THOUGHT like your meaning described it to be, your argument against me profoundly is weak. You are assorting my experiences to the latter, which still give rise to no perspective for your argument. :lol: The only thing you are doing is attacking the man in Straw Man style, a fallacy of Equivocation.

You sure as hell trying to make this about me though: I will not defend my past convictions like you want me to, that will not happen here. You want to prove me wrong so badly, you want to make this about my hypocrisy, so you all out your way to present irrelevant topics which still has no bearing on my meaning with regards to racism. I will keep STATING this until you grasp this concept, YOU ARE REFERENCING TO OTHER TOPICS, my personal experiences that still doesn't pertain to this meaning:

You can accuse of me hypocritical epithets and contradictions all you like, yes, keep admiring ALL my post, study them, you flatter me so, you may understand logic yet; but, you still haven't deduced this meaning as illogical. You can cast all you magic words and smoking mirrors you like to deviate from this fact.

Let me tell you why lack of autonomy IS THE ONLY racism that matters. Look at Rhwonda, an unstable society produces chaotic results, in breeds ignorance and violence at unmeasurable rates. If it were not for REAL black leaders like Dr. Martin Lurther King whom FOUGHT FOR AUTONOMY, you will killing off yourselves in the "ghettos" of some inner city. Who is going to care for the autonomy of blacks except blacks themselves!? These racists attacks, as so called, once subsided, began to open gates to growth. Laws began to protect YOU from physical harm, without these laws who is going to stop racism from snatching YOUR AUTONOMY!? What do you think would happen once ALL MOMENTARY wealth is gone!? I can smell Rhwonda all over again.
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This is your meaning with regards to racism -- Racism is the belief of superiority and prejudice against someone of another color or 'race.' You never define prejudice AT ALL in your meaning of racism, you are only insinuating the meaning, sort of "begging the question" and never explaining it. This causes confusing in YOUR ACTUALLY MESSAGE. I will not continue to debate if you continue to play on the ambiguity of meanings and concepts without actually defining these meaning and concepts of yours. You can not ASSUME I understanding your personal accounts. What are you trying to say SardonicGenie!?

This tells me you are unsure of this meaning, you are unsure of this meaning because you are unsure you know what forms of racism are overt and what forms of racism actually matter. You have yet explained to me how WW calling BM "Nigger" or stating she doesn't date BM as racist. She is not stating she is superior to you, she is not stating you are inferior to WM: You only 'feel' this is racist because it impedes a cruelty -- she just eliminated a set of men from her dating pool and used evil magic words to justify why she will not date BM. Ohhhhhhhh, the bloody horror of it all -- get over it already and evolve mate! Still, this is not racist, because this does not effect you any way, unless you are hurt by other's prejudice thoughts, which is only mental to begin with.

 

You do not understand this: I do not CARE IF THEY "TAKE KINDLY TO ME." I have more power than 70 percent of the "white" population. I have RESOURCES WHERE IT COUNTS.

Let me tell you something about power and the nature of power I will not use complex calibration or broad algebraic phrases. Money is power, Power is respect, if you have these things, there aren't many people coming after you physically. White skin heads!? White supremacists!? Feminazi!? None of them matter!

You foolish man, why do you think we may always rule under white supremacy!? Who has the MOST MONETARY WEALTH!? It sure as hell ain't blacks now is it mate!? Do a search on a great political philosopher named Niccolò Machiavelli, then, get back to once you understand his concepts of autonomy and manipulate its worth -- he is precisely dead on with many of his assertions.

First and foremost, I wasn't quoting any rapper, secondly, as I stated before, autonomy plays the biggest role in everything you describe above. YOU JUST CAN NOT SEE IT, WAKE THE FUCK UP!

I am in no full agreement with none of YOUR ISSUES FOOL, collectively speaking, generally of the whole populous.

:lol: Ignorance begets more ignorance!

I state this because Russian skin head can never touch me and never had because I was linked to one of the most powerful men in Mosscow. And the manfiestation of racism in the US is subtle in the form: Characterized by skill or ingenuity; clever. Yet again you forget the connoation of words. Meaning, their racism in the US can have pontenial damging to MY MONETARY WEALTH.

This is just illogical, you can not impede on other's individual rights for the sake of YOUR FREEDOM. Clearly, you mustard this stupdity out your arse for the sake of agrument.