Is a WW Racist Because She Refuses To Date BM?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by PeyBackTime8818, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Yea, that's what I believe also.
     
  2. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I think that sometimes it can be latent racism, but mostly it's just about liking what you like. I mean, the opposite of racism (sort of) doesn't mean that a bm has colonial or slave mentality for preferring ww, so a ww (or anyone else) isn't a latent racist for preferring "their own".

    We are who we are and we like what we like. Simple as that.
     
  3. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Preferring white women out of a 'slave mentality' is NOT the same thing as a white woman preferring 'her own' out of racism.
     
  4. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    It's not, and I didn't say it was. Unless it's coming across that way as that's not what I meant.
     
  5. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

  6. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    I agree with you Iffey's wifey-I believe that it is latent racism. to refuse someone based on race is a form of racism( i believe it is out and out racism) but if not it is a form of racism based on the clear definition of racism of : viewing or treating someone differently based on the color of their skin or their racial background

    an example: not hiring someone not because of their merits but because you are not attracted to their color or fear their race
     
  7. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Well, in any case, latent racism is better than the more overt kind, if you ask me.
     
  8. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    for me, racism is racism. in actuality , i would rather know who is racist and who isnt so i can avoid or confront the racist in our midst. i dont want to have to look over my shoulder for who is going to attack me
     
  9. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    That's the more overt kind I was thinking of.
     
  10. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    latent, hidden or covert.

    overt is out, on the surface
     
  11. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    That's what I mean. Just simply refusing to date a black man, but claiming that 'it's nothing personal' or 'just a preference' without actually giving a black man a chance is latent, and overt would be you and I having to watch our backs around someone who wants to attack us, and indicates that openly, but either way, although it's good to know who's your enemy and who's not, I would still opt for latent in my encounters.
     
  12. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i guess we have different experiences then. I am from the south, and overt racists you dont have to look over your shoulder they will come right up to you and tell you, they dont like IR relationships or they will tell you straight up at a bar that they dont date black men.

    covert or latent would be that they live in your neighborhood and smile in your face when they see you but burn crosses in your yard or leave notes scrawled on your house or say they are for Equality but dont date black men because of their parents or because they worry about the children.
     
  13. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    in the northeast where i live now, overt racist will run you out of their neighborhoods, the latent ones will cross the street and clutch their purses, or talk about political change for people of color but dont know black people as friends and will give an excuse for not dating or marrying a black man
     
  14. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    This is EXACTLY what I was thinking of. You read my mind, bro.

    To me, there is latent, overt, and then extreme. Sounds like you've had some extreme experiences.
     
  15. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Also, the most extreme ones tend to be more underground, like the Klan. That's why the Klan is the most hated hate-group in the world. People run these extremists out of cities because they get so bad when dealing with them. Skinheads are a lot worse, but I still think the Klan is extreme.
     
  16. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    both are racist and extreme, but they are overt(you know they are racist and so you stay away or stand up against them).

    for me, its the latent ones, the bosses, coworkers, the woman at the club that are just as dangerous. the woman who accepts a drink but doesnt accept your advances as a man to a woman and cries rape if she is scorned. the boss who doesnt promote you or hire you but slaps you on the back, the coworker who smiles at you while sabatoging your work.

    rewatch Jungle Fever--this is a movie of subtle(latent) racism and overt(extreme forms) of racism.

    when Flipper is up for promotion but is passed over, and his colleagues try to cover their A*%, that is latent, covert racism.

    when the ww gets beaten by her brothers and father, this is extreme overt racism

    when the wife is upset not just that flipper cheated on her, but cheated on her with a WW that is first subtle and then overt


    its a great study in the contrasts of forms of racism
     
  17. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    When I was talking about the 3 different levels to me (latent: meaning subtle, overt: meaning personal, and extreme: meaning hostile) I didn't mean to say that the danger factor was a part of those levels (if that's what you thought) but like you stated, depending on who the person is, the level of danger from their racism, varies from person to person.



    And, yeah, I can honestly say that studies on racism can be fascinating. Just as long as you don't subscribe to their 'newsletters' or adopt their way of thinking, you should be fine only studying it.
     
  18. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    ??? studies?
     
  19. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    You brought up studying the contrasts of racism.
     
  20. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    "a study in contrast" not studying or studies as in education.

    a study meaning a perspective
     

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