Interracial sightings on TV

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by blackbull1970, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    I kind of hope this means they are taking their time to try to make the numbers work so they can bring it back.


    Now that they've broken one of their time travel rules, maybe if it comes back next season they can travel even more places (Medival, prehistoric, even the future)
  2. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    On the other end of the spectrum of the IR we prefer, is a new show premiering next season

    About a black celebrity who gets away with murdering his white wife, only to get accused again. Oh and guess who is the executive producer.

    Honestly, I don't think this is the TV show we (society) need right now.
  3. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    And those are the reasons why it will fail. Marcia Clark thinks people aren't sick of her, she'll get a wake up call when they start promoting this show. Especially how the black guy is portraying the character will turn people off the more and more this gets out. The shows ABOUT OJ were different because they were about him. This show is just making it about black men. I bet the questions they dodge or give a suspect answer to are "Why did you make him black?" "Why couldn't he be white?"

    Would love it if those questions are brought up! lol.
  4. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    They probably rushed it because they were only given 10 episodes by the network. And they wanted to put enough out there to prove how good this show is and it actually worked. This show is highly rated on rotten tomatoes, the season finale beat out American Idol on the social media presence and averaged 2.4 Million viewers.

    But It doesn't look like they are bringing it back, but those numbers could land it somewhere else hopefully cable, netflix or hulu. Some of these white owned networks don't like too much diversity. Especially ones on National TV. Remember NBC brought back that show Taken based on the movie when they averaged around the same amount of viewers in their first season as TIMELESS did in it's first season. They picked up Brooklyn 99 when this show averaged FAR less viewers than TIMELESS in their season finale. So it clearly isn't about ratings. They just don't want too many shows on their network that are diverse and TIMELESS also features a rare LOVING straight IR relationship involving a black man. And they actually write it in a romantic way with them having chemistry and without a third party involved. I think they already have two other shows like that. Midnight, Texas is one of them. 3 or more is too much for NBC and they wouldn't want people thinking they support IR romances where the women fall in love with black men. lol.

    But as I said I do have high hopes that it will land somewhere else if NBC decides not to give it a Season 3.
  5. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    Whoa, whoa, whoa. I disagree with you on your diversity rant. Hollywood has been pushing onscreen diversity heavy the last several years this decade. There are so many Black TV shows, TV shows with a black lead/co-lead, or TV shows with black characters as part of the regular cast nowadays it's impossible to keep up.

    Have you seen the cast of "Brooklyn 99"?:


    BK99 is a sitcom that is a perfect example of Hollywood's onscreen diversity push the last several years, so using BK99 as an example of the networks not wanting diversity doesn't make sense. The reason NBC picked-up BK99 is because BK99 is a critically-acclaimed NBCUniversal-produced show & it just needs 1 more season to have a 100 episodes for syndication. So it makes sense business-wise for NBC & NBCUniversal as corporate siblings to have NBC pick BK99 up.

    I've never seen an episode of the "Taken" tv show, so I can't speak on it. But NBC just cancelled it last week.

    Also as I've mentioned multiple times, IRR involving BM are allowed to prosper on TV shows when both the BM chracter & his IR love interest are NOT the lead characters. Rufus & Jiya on "Timeless" are examples of this, so I don't think people really have a problem with Rufus & Jiya. Now if Rufus was a love interest for Lucy instead, than you'd see problems
  6. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    I was speaking on how many is too much for them. Brooklyn 99 and Timeless to go along with This Is Us, Midnight, Texas and The Good Place. Might be too many shows with that much diversity and IR involving black men. In their mind they would probably think they would have to let one go. Plus Brooklyn 99 is white male driven with their beloved gay black male character. Could be one of the reasons with such low ratings the past year they still picked it up.

    TIMELESS has out performed them.

    And regarding how they do IR couples yeah that is true also, but remember they REALLY don't like romantic storylines involving black men and non black women mainly white women no matter how big his role is. They already have two other IR couples on their network that I have counted so far. TIMELESS is three.

    Again I think TV is moving towards diversity in a way that doesn't threaten white and white male dominant shows. I mean look at how many new shows coming to the fall season they have announced. Mostly white and white male driven, yet no one has picked up that Courtney B. Vance IR show, and several of those new show we know are going to get the axe.

    I do think progress is happening, but unless things change in the front office It will happen in a way that makes them comfortable.
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    This is going to tank just like that Fox show about police killings involving a black cop and a white kid.
    Who is this for exactly?
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    What other shows do you see IRR between black men and white women that aren't foreign?
  9. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    SMH. ABC literally just had an now cancelled anthology crime series that last season focused on a BM being the main suspect of his White Wife's murder:

    You talking about that show with Sanaa Lathan & Mack Wilds? That show was meant to be an 1-season only event series.
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  10. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I wonder if her black ex-boyfriend has ever posed these questions to her.
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    That shit don't count, he was a murder suspect. Come on fam
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Doubt it. Being that rich you live in a bubble yaaaas girl do it. She's completely tone deaf and her supporters will be the ones to hurt in the long run. As much as I respect and support black love, this country lacks the foundation for that to flourish. Black men are better off taken their talents and resources elsewhere and focus on building a different community.
    Saw this video today and even though this the opinion of one woman the comments always give me an idea of which way the larger population is leaning. Almost 100% support. No vitriol, no hate, no shaming, just a bunch of people who agree black men and white women are weak, that the opposites within our races do more work while we just sit back. Funny how they think that but both camps are the loudest and proudest when they want to shout down and police every move we make.
    So Shonda can make all the damaging shows about black men that she wants because black women gay black men white men in general will support the hell out of it. I haven't seen a single episode but I predict the black dude will be cartoonishly evil, beating and abusing a slew of women and some evil white woman will be the reason he was locked up being innocent of this one crime.
  13. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    When I saw the parallels to the OJ trial and the question posed as to the producer, my knee-jerk reaction was that Marcia Clark had expanded from law into television production. But Shonda Rhimes (sp?) also makes sense.
  14. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    It's funny how people always take the part of the facts that benefit them and their narrative and ignore the ones that don't. But this is another example of Black Love being a joke in America for black men to support when they want freedom to date and marry outside their race and want to celebrate them dating interracially and the focal point of black love, but shame black men that do it and go with every stereotype they can think of to degrade black men dating outside their race and make black men backstory of black love.
    They learn from Masta well in how to treat black men. Like property.

    And you know what while I was remembering Margot Kidder and looking through old videos, pics and interviews about her I came across this Jet Magazine Cover with her and Richard Pryor.

    And it made me remember how The Black Media and The Black Community have been mainly supportive of both black men and black women dating outside their race in the past.

    Now through the years black people mainly black women decided they are against black men dating and marrying outside their race especially their arch nemesis white women.
  15. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I think that back then the black community generally supported any progress on the civil rights and social progress front as an improvement in rights for black people generally, including the ability to have an interracial relationship. Now, racism and narrow nationalism have reversed some of this progress.
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  16. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    LOL. We're literally in a long-running thread where this stuff is documented & discussed. Didn't @darkcurry recently make a weekly schedule in this thread of currently airing shows with IRRs to make this easier.
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The thread highlights more one offs than actual main characters involved with each other. What's the bm/ww equivalent of Jack and Kate from Lost or Ross and Rachel or Clark Kent and Louis Lane. Hell give me one that's like Olivia Pope and Fitz or Barry and Iris. It's virtually non existent.
  18. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member

    You speak truth. This is something I've also been commenting on ad nauseam for quite awhile. We have to do a better job at distinguishing the differences. For example, using Flash and Iris as a comparison, look at what went down with Kara and James on the Supergirl TV show. They broke that up real quick after season one and as of late they have paired James with Lena, Lex's sister. Pairing him with a popular white character like Lena is still not a perfect solution considering the backlash that gets too, but it is still more preferable to TPTB than pairing him with the beloved main heroine. In a recent episode James and Lena are dressing in the morning in her apartment after an obvious night of love making. Their discourse is interrupted by the arrival of a villain who trashes the place and tries to harm them. When Supergirl arrives later on, after hearing about what happened, the writers did something that I picked up on immediately because it has been done before. 1)Supergirl doesn't seem bothered or jealous that James is now with Lena, an intentional move by the writers to make perfectly clear that Kara has no interest in James and thus the first season should be forgotten. And 2)Kara only asks Lena is she is okay, she doesn't bother to ask James even though he too was assaulted. Writes NEVER like showing white women caring or thinking about the well-being/safety of a black male character unless it is a rare circumstance of that white woman being involved with a black male character. I recall how striking it was during the second or third season of "Dexter" when Dexter's sister became overwrought when a black guy she was becoming involved with was in danger after he was kidnapped by a bad guy. Her primary purpose became her desperate attempts to find him. I refer to it as "striking" because I had rarely if ever seen a white woman allowed to be so worried about the well-being of a black male. Of course the following season she falls for an older white male and her concern for the black dude evaporates quickly and she doesn't think much about betraying him.

    Perfect example of this is the new Star Wars. Rey had concern for Finn and vice versa in The Force Awakens. But in The Last Jedi while Finn still pines for Rey and worries about what is going on with her, Rey on the other hand doesn't give Finn much thought. That shit is intentional not just from a story point of view, but from the goal of relieving the audience from any discomfort over the possibility that Rey may have strong feelings for that black guy.
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  19. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I just got done watching the series finale of "New Girl" that aired a couple nights ago.
    In the 1st episode Aly gave birth to the baby.

    In the 2nd episode, they showed a flashfoward scene in the future and Winston & Aly have 5 kids.
  20. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member

    Blaxploitation era was the last time black men could routinely be paired with white women on screen or shown bedding white women without the black community considering it a betrayal to the cause. Also that era was the last time black guys were allowed to be completely and unapologetically sexual. White society, black women, the black gay community and the black heterosexual lap dogs of black women would all take issue with such sexuality, regardless of the race of the women they were sleeping with, today.

    Today if Purple Rain came out Woke Twitter would be screaming "black women erasure" and other bullshit.
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