Internet question

Discussion in 'PC Performance, Security, and Tips' started by z, Jan 31, 2010.

  1. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Thank you. It was not a big deal. I just wanted to be better educated on this topic.
    Thanx.
     
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  2. Athena

    Athena New Member

    The answer is plaid.
     
  3. christine dubois

    christine dubois Well-Known Member

  4. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Geez, I log on specifically to answer your question GZ... and it's gone!

    So please clarify for me if you want to know if anyone randomly can track your movements on the internet, or if specific sites you visit have that ability, and I will happily answer to the best of my ability.
     
  5. z

    z Well-Known Member

    I know your server provider (not you Espy but the generic you) tracks your visits and keeps record of them. How long do they store that data? who is got access to those data besides the IT folks in that internet provider company? For.eg. I visit this website multiple times during the day-on my i-phone, lap top, desk top etc...who is keeping that record? and do they keep on their record how manytimes I visited this websites per day per week?

    Also do they keep only record of the websites that I directly visited (i.e on my address bar i type wwbm.com) or do they keep a record of a link as well(i.e. when I click a link posted on this forum and go to that website).

    Like I said it's not a big deal, I just like to be very informed on many things.

    Thanx
     
  6. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Okay GZ, got it.

    Internet service providers can track any IP address that accesses their system, and I suspect every single one of them does. The tracking programs I work with are on the other side, the websites you access rather than the ISPs, but they are capable of tracking every visit and the logs show IP address and date/time stamp for every single visit. They also track every click you make while you are on their site. Your ISP also has the ability to track every web address you visit while using their service, including when you visit a site and click a link for another site. So they would know what sites you visited both directly and indirectly, as well as when, for how long, etc.

    As for who has access to this information outside your ISP, in theory no one as it is protected information. Short of receiving a subpoena for that information, they aren't supposed to provide it to anyone, and most of them frown on providing it even under court order, but let's face it if they have to choose between you and the law, the law's going to win. Now the government can access it without the subpoena, if they want to know, they will find out. But unless you are involved in the drug trade, a weapons dealer, money launderer, terrorist, or happen to know Osama Bin Laden's present location, I doubt they're going to bother with you. So basically unless you trigger an interest in yourself, they aren't going to bother with you. It's long been rumored that they use programs to mine the internet for mentions of specific phrases, and that if certain phrases are used in conjunction it will take note of who said what and where. For instance my using the terms weapons, money, terrorist and Osama Bin Laden would most certainly catch the programs attention. But again unless you prove to be more interesting than that, you shouldn't have to worry. Hackers also could most certainly access the information, but they too would need a reason most likely.

    One other thing to mention, any network you use to access the internet likely also has the ability to track your movements. So if you access websites at work, they can see where you go, how long you were there, how many times a day you visit, etc. This would also be true of wireless access points in public places, which is one reason I don't access anything like banking info outside my own personal network. There are programs that will track every keystroke as well, and I worked with a company once who used one to track what their employees were doing on the clock that wasn't work related. Those programs will record login info, passwords, everything. Fortunately I don't think they are widely used as there is some question of whether that's an invasion of privacy, but ultimately in the case of an employer, if you're on their equipment and their time it's generally regarded that they have a right to spy on you.

    Hope that answers your curiosity GZ. If I missed anything let me know.
     
  7. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Espy- Thank you so much, I appreciate it. You answered what I kinda know and exactly suspected.
    The reason why I posed the question- the other day someone told me that you can surf without being traced, I wanted to know how, by using proxy server.. encryption??......anyways, I guess the answer is NO, you cant.
     
  8. Espy

    Espy New Member

    You will always be traced, but if you have the ability to route through a bunch of proxy servers then they may not be able to trace it all back to you specifically. It's still going to record your movements, it just makes the person doing the moving harder to find, but not impossible.
     
  9. Chandarah

    Chandarah New Member

    surf over china or something like that... lol:smt026
     
  10. z

    z Well-Known Member

    surf this :smt067 LoL
     
  11. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Espy-not to get personal here but in what aspect of medical field were you in involved b4, writing, IT, nursing, management?
    Also, since you are a stellar writer, can you pls proof read some stuff that I have for future potential publication?

    Thanx
     
  12. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Not personal at all GZ. I was a physician liason, which is a nice way of saying personal slave to the doctors. I had a couple that spoke and educated internationally and so I handled all aspects of their professional and personal lives to facilitate their abilities to practice and teach. We ran fellowship programs and I reviewed and approved applications for those, as well as managed the annual medical symposia that we held. They also participated in medical research and so I assisted in prepping publication of findings in medical journals. I also had a couple that were editors for medical journals so I reviewed and proofed submissions for them. I was more or less a jack of all trades, if they needed something I took care of it. On call 24/7 and worked a bunch of hours, the standard week was about 80 hours. I loved it though. I resigned when I started my own business, but I loved those boys and I actually miss the pace.

    I don't know that I'm a stellar writer, but I have a reasonable command of the English language and excellent comprehension skills. Feel free to send anything you like to me, I'd be happy to take a look anytime.
     
  13. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Espy-Thanx for your reply, impressive, what kind of fellowship were you ppl running? is it in major institution?
     
  14. Espy

    Espy New Member

    We ran Electrophysiology Brady and Tachy short-term training courses (Pacemakers and Defibrillators) for Cardiologists and a Cardiac MRI fellowship for Cardiologists and Radiologists. My MRI guy was one of the first doctors trained in Cardiac MRI before it gained popularity and we were one of only a handful of private practices that had a dedicated magnet for Cardiac MRI. The Brady and Tachy programs were really more to provide docs an opportunity to stay current and keep up their CME hours in EP. The Cardiac MRI was fully accredited by the Society for Cardiac Magnetic Resonance (SCMR) for doctors who wanted credentialing in that area. I think people were always shocked to find that type of training in Oklahoma of all places, people expect tee pees and covered wagons when they come here, not state-of-the-art medical training and facilities. We were the first location in the world to successfully run a large research study doing Cardiac MRI on people with pacemakers and defibrillators, which up until then had been absolutely shunned. They proved it's actually safe when the proper precautions are taken. They really were some bright boys.
     
  15. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Is this at ouhsc? were there any blks in the progam or just pretty much white boys club and some indians?
    do you still keep in touch with those folks?
     
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  16. Espy

    Espy New Member

    No we weren't affiliated with OU or OSU, believe it or not medicine is incredibly political, and the universities tend to view private practice as the enemy in terms of research. As for the program, I'm guessing you mean the fellowship programs? If that's the case then I would estimate it was about 50% white, 20% Indian/Middle Eastern, 20% Black, and 10% Asian. I reviewed and prioritized the applications and race/ethnicity was not a question on the application. We simply scored them based upon factors like education, licensure, years of training, experience, and references. I would narrow it down to top 5 and we would interview them and then my MRI guy made the final decision. Our MRI fellowship was a paid fellowship, which is unusual so we always had a fair number of applicants even though it meant spending a year in Oklahoma. For the EP training courses, it was less competitive because they were short term and we had more slots open, we trained about 4-6 per month and most of their time was spent in the Cath lab doing procedures.
     
  17. z

    z Well-Known Member

    It sounds like it was a kool job, lady.
    are most candidates american born or foreign? also of the blks if they are foreign born, what are the countries most represent?
    who is qualified to take this fellowsip, cards, EP and IR guys? or other specialties as well?
     
  18. Espy

    Espy New Member

    As I recall, all but a couple of the EP guys were US born, and all the MRI guys were US born, and all black docs were African American. All applicants had to have passed US boards to be eligible to apply.

    For EP, they had to be a cardiologist or an EP with X number of cases in the past 2 years, with current licensure.

    For MRI, they had to be a cardiologist or radiologist. The majority were cardiologists in private practice who wanted to added CVMRI to their practice. CVMRI is non-invasive and more accurate than nuclear testing, so a lot of groups were looking into it. It's also more accurate than CT, so we had quite a few radiologists who wanted to stay ahead of the curve just in case CVMRI replaced CT. Now that's not likely to happen due to the cost difference both of the equipment and what they can charge for the scans, but a lot of groups are very forward thinking.
     
  19. z

    z Well-Known Member

    So if it is a pvt run fellowship who is funding it?
    Also a year long fellowship training just to do a non-invasive procedure, so at the end the docs are considered CVMRI fellow? interesting.
     
  20. Espy

    Espy New Member

    We funded it ourselves. Cardiology is a major money maker. Our group was very lucrative. I believe it was $40,000/year + insurance benefits paid by the group. Now most of the guys were straight out of cardiology fellowships, so that may seem really low wages, but for them it was a lot and none of the other CVMRI fellowships were paid. Not to mention $40,000 in Tulsa goes a long way since our cost of living is low. From the group's perspective, they put the fellowship docs to work and they not only worked CVMRI, they rounded and most read echos and nuclear scans. So they not only got their money's worth out of them, but they got to see them in action for a year to decide if they wanted to offer them a position at the end of the fellowship. The President of the practice was an amoral ass, but he was damn smart.

    Once the training was completed, the docs had the required training and number of cases to qualify for credentialing in CVMRI.
     

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