Immigration: Arizona strikes back

I can read and comprehend perfectly well. The comparison still doesn't fit.

You travel anywhere outside of the US you have to show them your "papers".

Equating rounding up and showing papers in WWII Nazi Germany is equating rounding up and putting people into concentration camps. You cannot use Nazi Germany and not use the entire situation. It doesn't work that way. People bring up Nazi Germany, they have to bring up the reasons for it.

The comparison doesn't work.

Asking people to show their papers when they disembark from a plane onto foreign soil is considered okay for international travel.

Yet, somehow, asking people to show proof of US citizen on US soil is not considered okay?

 

Mexico rounds-up people and check for identification..

Why dont you compare them to the nazis???????????????????

 

What? You're saying that in all other countries they randomly stop Americans and ask them for their papers? I don't think that's the case. Crossing the border, sure. Walking down the street, no.

 

your tax money paid for that mccain/palin ticket...you are still paying for mccain...you will continue to pay for mccain...that is what you should be outraged about...

i have actually read quite a bit about the bill and i can tell you this...don't get too comfortable...this isnt over yet...

 

Yeah, we're totally arguing over nothing. The law will never ever stand. It'll be overturned in a minute, even without the President's help.

 

I went to Israel with 2 friends. Myself and one friend left with the group. We all had to open our luggage and let them go through it at the airport.

The 2nd friend stayed an extra day because she was going to Poland to visit family. She was traveling by herself.

She was brought into a room and interrogated for over an hour at the airport before she left. They wanted to know why she didn't leave with the rest of the group, why she was going to Poland, the works.

So, it happens.

 

We have a winner.

All this hysteria is unwarranted.

 

Excellent point!

I got pulled over the other day 3 o'clock in the morning driving a little above the speed limit coz a friend's dad was not doing so well. When the cop asked me to show my driver license, I should have refused him and called him a Nazi Cop, and drove off. The racist cop wasted my time and interrogated me for long and slapped me a $250 ticket. How come I did not think of that that nazi comparison then.

hmmm, let me guess, if I refused to show my driver lic and drove off, I would have been gunned the fuck out in the middle of nowhere highway.
So you bleeding heart, give me a fucken break and shove your fucken bullshit nazi comparison somewhere where the sun dont shine.

 

People will little to no experience travelling internationally apparently do not know this. I'm surprised the US has not implemented a national ID program in place all over Europe and elsewhere in the world.

 

Yup.

 

It's not unusual for some to be sent home on the next flight without ever leaving the airport.

 

lippy is going to agree to disagree and remember this for future reference the next time someone wants just use a portion/example of american history to make their point...this should go in the rule book as not acceptable...

 

A couple things:

Israel is not "anywhere outside of the United States." That's just silly. There's going to be a marked difference between how things are in Israel and how they are in Montreal.

You're comparing how people are treated in the Airport with how they are treated walking down the street. Two completely different things. We interrogate people for over an hour in the Airports in the United States, too. I've had friends visit from the Middle East and Africa, and they tend to get held for nearly a day every time. Not at all, remotely like harrassing people about their papers when they are walking down the street.

 

Mexican and some other south american police delibrately target American tourist sometimes. I know ppl who has been thrown to Mexican jail for bullshit story, they got released when they paid bribe money. This is not new.

 

Lippy, everywhere else in the World outside this board, the Nazi comparison is a given.

Yes, people make Nazi comparisons too often. But some things are actually like what the Nazis did, and it's important to remember what they are, if we don't want to walk that path. Never forget, so they say.

 

:smt042i travel within the usa and find a slip of paper almost every single trip showing that TSA has gone through my luggage...what you are describing is perfectly normal and it should happen at the airport

 

Mexico is not "anywhere outside the United States" either.

Corrupt regimes do all kinds of terrible things to people everywhere. That in no way works as a recommendation for how the leader of a unipolar state (for the moment) should behave.

 

What you have there is a description of Just Cause. You were speeding, thus the police officer had just cause to stop you.

Had he done so simply because of your race, without being able to justify stopping you for any other reason, then he would have been in the wrong and you could potentially sue. That is the result of laws that people like myself fought very hard for, and the opposite of what this short-lived law attempts to reverse.


Edited to add: you could actually still sue.

 

you know it sister...this isn't even worth my time today...but i did learn something...that something has left me with a heavy heart:smt049smh

 

Well there were other fuckers who are doing the same speed or just a little more than I was and did not see them getting pulled over but I did not have the same hue as them, if you know what I mean.