Immigration: Arizona strikes back

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  1. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    :smt023:smt023:smt023

    We will NEVER be shit without Africa.

    The ship is sinking and everybody else has a lifeboat but the Black American.

    Mexicans have mexico..irish have ireland..italians have italy..germans have germany ect ect ect ect.

    We're the only people without a plan b...we seemed destined to GO DOWN WITH THIS SHITTY SHIP.


    The illegals will never be deported...and nobody will stop them from flooding in.

    That means......America will soon be an UNREGULATED SWEAT SHOP with no middle-class.

    We've been told to keep our eyes on the prize...little did we know...the "prize" is MEXICO...:smt043
     
  2. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    And so it begins...

    This is just going to be the start of Arizona's backlash to their law. I'm sure other schools and states are doing the same.

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...basketball-team-trip-to-arizona-scrapped.html
    Highland Park High School scraps team trip to Arizona

    May 12, 2010 5:58 AM | 29 Comments | UPDATED STORY

    Reveling in its first conference championship in 26 years, the Highland Park High School girls varsity basketball team has been selling cookies for months to raise funds for a tournament in Arizona. But those hoop dreams were dashed when players learned they couldn't go because of that state's new crackdown on illegal immigrants.
    Safety concerns partly fueled the decision, but the trip also "would not be aligned with our beliefs and values," said District 113 Assistant Superintendent Suzan Hebson. That explanation, though, smacks of political protest to parents upset by the decision.

    The news, which was broken to the team Monday by coach Jolie Bechtel, comes as critics of Arizona's controversial law call on professional athletes and others to boycott the state.
    Last month a New York congressman asked Major League Baseball to pull next year's All-Star Game from Phoenix, and protesters recently picketed Wrigley Field when the Arizona Diamondbacks played the Cubs.
    But tossing a high school team into the heated debate has left parents and players baffled and angry.
    "Why are we mixing politics and a basketball tournament?" said Michael Evans, whose daughter Lauren is a junior on the team. "It's outrageous that they're doing this under the guise of safety."
    Lauren Evans said she thought the concern was probably that one of the players could get stopped and questioned.
    "It shouldn't be a problem," she said. "I don't think it makes much sense. We shouldn't be a threat. We just want to play basketball."
    District 113 Superintendent George Fornero declined comment, saying it "wasn't just my decision." He referred calls to Hebson.
    Hebson said Arizona is off-limits because of uncertainty about how the new law will be enforced. Signed by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer last month, it makes it a crime to be in the country illegally and requires police to check suspects for immigration paperwork.
    Hebson said the turmoil is no place for students of Highland Park High School, which also draws from Highwood.
    "We would want to ensure that all of our students had the opportunity to be included and be safe and be able to enjoy the experience," Hebson said of the tournament, which will be played in December. "We wouldn't necessarily be able to guarantee that."
    Asked if there are undocumented players on the team, or if anyone associated with the team is in the country illegally, Hebson said she did not know.
    Parents and players interviewed said they knew of no one who fits that description.
    The high school's Web site boasts of a "relatively diverse" student population of 80 percent white, 15 percent Hispanic, 3 percent Asian and 2 percent African-American.
    "Many of the parents feel that this should be resolved in the judicial court, not the basketball court," said Cynde Munzer, whose daughter, Lena, is a freshman on the team.
    "I disagree personally with the Arizona legislation, but I also feel strongly about young women's rights," Munzer said. "They don't want to get involved in politics."
    Subrina Collier, whose daughter Briana is a junior on the team, said even if someone were worried about presenting immigration papers in Arizona, it should be a personal decision to stay away. She called the administration decision a misplaced political statement.
    The school district is looking for another tournament for the Giants, officials said.
    The girls basketball team at Mundelein High School was in Scottsdale, Ariz., in December for the tournament hosted by Desert Mountain High School, said coach Brian Evans.
    Evans called Desert Mountain High School "unbelievably hospitable" during his team's trip. Officials there declined comment about Highland Park's decision not to participate.
    Meanwhile, other Chicago-area organizations continue to wrestle with their involvement in Arizona.
    Local immigrants' rights activists delivered a letter Tuesday to the Chicago-based American Bar Association that urged the group to cancel a conference slated for this week in Arizona.
    At Highland Park, basketball player Marguerite Biagi, a junior, said she disagrees with the law but still wants to visit Arizona.
    "It's ultimately the state's decision, no matter what I think," she said. "Not playing basketball in Arizona is not going to change anything."
     
  3. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    I can't believe people are this fucking naive. They're here ILLEGALLY! Some people are just not going to get it. Too many morons think with false emotions.
     
  4. chicity

    chicity New Member

    The people being targeted by the law are not limited to those here illegally. That's the point. Just like the Black Men who are pulled over for Driving While Black are not all criminals. The point of this law is to target all Hispanics so as to find those that are here illegally. The people with a problem with it are not so much upset about the illegals who are found, as they are with the legal ones who are harassed, arrested, and mistreated because they happen to share a race with the illegals.

    I don't think it is an emotional point, either.

    I have seen a great deal of emotion coming from the anti-illegal side. Emotional statements about what our country is coming to, about how racist Hispanics all are anyway, about how frustrating it is to live near the border.

    Everything I hear from the other side is about Constitutional law, political history and social leverage.

    Specifically, with regards to the story, the schools must protect their students. When students are on trips supported by the school, the teachers and chaperones are charged with caring for the kids like their parents. If the students get harassed because of their race, if they are mistaken for illegals and detained by the police, then the school can be held liable by parents.

    That's not emotion. That's the school covering its ass. That's what schools do.
     
  5. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    Let's just agree to disagree on this issue.
     
  6. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    lippy was hoping that this read would indicate that the team decided not to participate...it really should be their decision...recently there was an article about a girls team from utah that forfeited a playoff game because they would have had to play on a sunday...the girls decided as a team that their beliefs were more important than playing a sport...it made national news...
     
  7. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'm with you on the schools, but everything else, I disagree with you.
     
  8. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I think the schools are doing this to make a statement, more so than for safety reasons.

    You travel as a group when you're away from home on school trips. You're never left to wander on your own. I don't believe that police are going to question and/or detain students who are in a group and being chaperoned.
     
  9. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    We'll see how long these "boycotts" last.
     
  10. chicity

    chicity New Member

    I had a different experience. When I went on school trips, I went everywhere with my friends in between required activities. We had a lot of freedom.
     
  11. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    Not that Palin is really worth talking about, but she makes some interesting points (though I haven't read the entire article yet). Here's the link to the article, and I'll copy the first few paragraphs:

    http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2010/05/palin-talks-about-immigration-oil-spill.html

    Only moments after taking the stage tonight at the Rosemont Theatre, former Alaska governor and conservative firebrand Sarah Palin took on officials of Highland Park High School for canceling a trip to Arizona by its girls’ basketball team because of opposition to the state’s controversial new immigration law.
    “Keeping the girl’s basketball team off the court for political reasons? Those are fighting words,” Palin said. Noting the school has allowed student trips to China, Palin questioned whether school officials knew “how they treat women in China.”

    School officials said the Arizona immigration law that requires police to check the immigration status of suspects was not “aligned with our beliefs and values.”


    “An economic and political boycott of one of our sister states is not a way to secure our borders,” Palin said, using the title of her first book to encourage the team members to “go rogue, girls.”
     
  12. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Now all that said, those kids raised money for that trip and they should still get a trip. Send them to an out of town WNBA game, or the Basketball Hall of Fame, do something, but don't just punish the kids.
     
  13. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I find that very hard to believe. That is a HUGE safety issue.

    We weren't allowed to go anywhere, unless it was in a group. And they taped our hotel room doors after curfew.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Holy shit its the first sign of the apocolypse I gotta agree with Sarah Palin on this one.
     
  15. chicity

    chicity New Member

    WOW.

    I admittedly wasn't in sports. I did things like going with my high school drama club to the Illinois Theater Fest. (Dunno what it was actually called, something like that). I think it was the U of I Champaign campus. We stayed in hotels, and had absolute freedom when we weren't at the main events. We hung out in the tv room together, or in each other's hotel rooms, or at the campus food court. We did not have a curfew, but we were required not to miss morning events, or we'd get in trouble. Some guy thought it was funny to hang my stuffed animal rabbit (that my future husband had given me) from the shower faucet with toilet paper. The cleaning lady took my Badgers nightgown, and I never got it back. We were pretty much on our own when we weren't required to be doing something.

    Other trips were pretty much the same.

    Different schools do things differently, I guess.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Well to be honest I'm all for racial profiling with certain things because it works. Now in this country we operate under the idea that all Muslims are terrorist which isn't true but it seems like all terrorist are Muslims so if the intelligence community watches them with more scrutiny that's ok with me. As far as the whole driving while black thing is concerned I can honestly say that has happened to me on several occasions and it all happened when I was dressed in thug apparel, I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to dress how you want but expect to be treated like a thug if you dress like one. Like I think women should be allowed to wear whatever you want but dressing in a tube top and a mini skirt in the south bronx at 2am might not be a good idea it attracts the wrong kind of attention. As far as hispanics being stopped and questioned big fucking deal all they want to see is a identification which you're always suppose to have. Everyone is required to have id on them already anyway. I understand there is a large legal population but unfortunately for them the over whelming majority of illegals hispanic. Should hispanics not be held to the same laws everyone else follows?
     
  17. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    These boycotts on Arizona are counter productive and retarded. If cities like LA, Boston and San Fran love illegal immigrants so much do you think they'd be okay with picking up the tab on them? I am sure the people of Arizona (myself included) wouldnt mind if those cities took them off our hands.:D

    Its easy to be so compassionate from a far.
     
  18. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    Mexicans don't show ANY compassion when somebody is in their country illegally.
     
  19. chicity

    chicity New Member

    I'm pretty sure there are illegal immigrants in LA and San Francisco.
     
  20. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Well duh.

    I'm saying that if LA and San Fran are so lax on their illegal immigration laws, maybe they wouldnt mind 400,000 more of them.;)
     

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