If You Could Be Reborn, Would You Be Black or White?

I once asked one of my black friends of mine this and he had a very interesting answer. He, like me, loves white women and wants to spend his life with one, but he has had alot of trouble getting them to want to be more than friends with him. I asked him what his one wish would be and he said it would be to be reborn white. That way he could have an easier time getting white girls. That was a deep answer and from his soul. I kind of sympathized with him (getting white girls has not been very easy for me either, at least not ones who LOVE me and not just wanna use me sexually or ones that just see me as that token "black friend").

I have thought about that before but I love my parents and family so much that I cannot imagine what they would be like as white people LOL. At the same time I do not think he has self hate issues because there is nothing wrong with saying hey, "these are the women I wanna spend the rest of my life with and if being born a different race could help that, then why not?" It is strange how we all feel some sort of undying loyalty to the race we are born to. We never chose what we wanted to be. We just are that race. Why must we choose to being with. This isn't a war with chosen sides or a sports game with two teams. A lot of people wish they were rich, or famous, or a celebrity, or prettier, or skinnier, or bigger, or taller, or smarter, so what is so bad about wishing you were a different race? What do you all think?

 

I think one of life's biggest challenges is to come to terms with the way you were born, that nothing can change it, and learn to find your place in the world.

I wouldn't wish to be anyone who I'm not, and I don't think colour should exclusively define the way you are: upbringing and ethnicity is intrinsic to everyone's being, but it is your soul and inner being which counts, unique to everyone.

 

I agree completely Mistress. You know what they say, you can't truly love someone else until you love yourself.

 

I would come back as MYSELF....whether that was black or white wouldn't matter all that much. It is always interesting to see how the other half lives though....I probably wouldn't change much except add a few inches of height and maybe add LL's six pack :smt066

 

How many women in here would wanna be reborn men?

 

Hmmm, I don't know. I only know how it is to be me and I see myself as "Natasha" not "white" or "English" etc, just me.

But as for coming back as a man...I'd like to have a great big cock for the day, just to see what it's like! But I don't fancy having a hairy arse.

 

Only for a day, really it is lovely to be a woman - I do like it.

 

The reason I asked is that I have heard from plenty of women that it sucks to be a woman. You have to have your period, mood swings, bitchiness, you are so emotionally attached to sex (where as men can have sex with a complete stranger and it be no problem, its just fun for us, like eating or using a toilet, all it is is satisfying a physical urge or need, women need to LOVE the guy and trust him and all that emotional crap). Plus you gotta wear high heels which can be uncomfortable and plus you have to deal with menopause and putting on make up which takes forever and your hair too.

You also have to deal with society's double standards and being groped and looked at and disrespected by men and then there is that whole having a baby thing which I've heard isn't much fun. I know for sure I wouldn't want to be a woman. I mean men go around calling other weak men "pussies" and "don't be a girl", signifying that the very essence of being a woman means being weak, scared and useless (well maybe they are good for ONE thing, hence the title PUSSIES LOL).

 

Sorry if this sounds mean (please don't take this as a malicious statement) but... If I could make some crazy wish about people being reborn, my wish would be to have every Caucasian person in America experience what it's like being in the shoes of a a low-class black person in America for one year. Maybe that would put some sympathy in certain people's hearts.

 

This is a very interesting topic because I've often wondered about reincarnation. I have seen many a child who had a look in their eyes and a certain poise that implies they've been here before. Some of the world's great thinkers throughout history were social outcasts and had views that most of society disagreed with. They were either ahead of their time or maybe they have been here before.

If reincarnation is real, I would want to come back as myself. I can only imagine what I'd be like if I knew the same things as a teenage youth that I know now. Besides, black people have gone through too much to make we just want to forfeit my race even though it may be easier for me to be a wm in America than a bm. And when it comes to IR dating, I like ww/bm passion too much to change my color. :smt008

Peace.
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"The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind."

 

Multiple orgasms :lol:

No but seriously, the fact that society has double standards, has sexualised and objectified the female body and that many people doubt female abilities still aren't good enough reasons for me to not want to be a woman. I see life these days as infinitely more difficult, and sometimes more dangerous, for men.

 

Not all women need to love a person to fuck them...I certainly don't. For me sex is better when I love my partner (as now - the best sex of my life) but I've previously had really good sex with a man I didn't even like or want to go out in public with!

Yes women are more emotional than men, but that doesn't mean that everything we do is feeling rather than thought lead.

 

Agree with all of that - am exactly the same way. Think I've enjoyed casual sex more in the past than my man has, he's much more sensitive!

 

Another good question from Peyback
For me I have wished to be white before. My story is me and my twin sister live with my white father and his white wife and THEIR 3 white children. So as you may see I have often felt like I am on the outside, not just because she is not our real mother but because they are all white. Also 95% of the community here is white, I dont know anyone else black as friends and at sometimes I felt my sister is the only person who I know as we feel the same.
But today I am older and understand and I am so grateful to my white stepmother and their children and they ARE my brothers and sisters aswell, blood is not important and they feel the same. I have 2 step brothers and 1 step sister. My brothers are both on my soccer team and we and my father all watch bayern münchen almost each weekend and do a lot together. They are probably 2 of my best friends and now I kinda like being the black guy
So like everybody I would come back as I am now.

 

Why must a man be black or white and how do we characterise it!? My skin!? My Mannerisms!? My physique!?

Who has the right truth to objectively characterise it!?

Are we better of if we fit this niche!? Or do we evolve!?

I find these arguments quite boring honestly, the question implies a credulity; I have to ABSOLUTELY not like something about myself, the politics of skin -- they lack substance and ingenuity, are immaterial and irrelevant, are redundant and cliche. The only thing I would want to change is the nature of politics and the nature of thinking. The ways I see it, in its nature, that is, discussing the politics of skin only gives rise to "chaos theory." And that's how the 'naysayers' want, so you can continue to fit their nice little niche. What about the 'blacks' who just want to "forget" these pretensions and just more the hell on!?

My query to peyback and others like him -- why would you ask yourself this question to begin with!?

 

I just find it funny how people feel the need to have such fierce loyalty to being one race. I never make ANY decision in my life based off of what other blacks will think of me or "I am black so therefore I MUST decide this or do THIS since this is what other blacks would do". That is stupid. So why should a black person (or white person for that matter) feel bad if they admit that they wish they were born a different race. It does not imply self hate, it is just saying that hey, it has been real hard living my life through the shoes of one race and the experiences I have had have cost me a chance at happiness, it would have been easier maybe to have been another race and be happier. It is not that you hate yourself and do not wanna be yourself. You would still have the same name and voice and personality and body, just a different skin color. Since when does your skin color define who you are???

Michael Jackson now is still the same man he was two skin shades and two decades ago. He is still the same human being with the same name and interests and thoughts and heart and brain is he not? Now assume people treated him nicer with his lighter skin than they did before, would it not make sense? Isn't he still the same man still? I'm not asking would you wanna be reborn as someone else, just change one thing. One insignificant thing. If you don't like one pair of clothes, you change. Same thing. The Clothes don't make the man, the man makes the clothes, as they say. Well assume your skin is your clothes.

Look at it this way: If you were on a sports team. You were going into a big game that you needed to win. You are on a team called the Blacks and your star quarterback has a broken leg so you are going to have to play with your backup (he sucks) and your defense is the worst in the league and all your wide receivers were arrested last night and are in jail right now. All the backups are in and you are the running back and your ankle is swollen from the last weekend's game. The other team are called the WHITES and are the best in the league and all their starters are healthy. They go on to win the game 120-2. After the game God comes to you and says, I can give you the chance to go back in time and be on the WHITE team...would you do it? Of course you would say yes. So why wouldn't that apply to real life? What is this blind loyalty to one race that you never asked to be apart of to begin with?

If being reborn white would allow you to get a job you missed out on because the boss hiring was racist, allowed you to not get kicked out of a clothing store when you were only minding your own business, allowed you not to get that speeding ticket from the racist cop, allowed you to be with that GORGEOUS blonde you have been in love with who normally only dates white guys (assuming she loves your personality and everything else but told you she just isn't into black guys), what is wrong with admitting that life would have been easier if things were different?

I'm sure most if not all of you feel the same way but I understand your "pride" to be black will prevent you from admitting it, which is sad. What if you were born into a cult that forced you to not have your own thoughts or beliefs and you had no choice but to do what they say? You wouldn't like that would you? Well that is what you are doing if you refuse to speak your own honest opinion from your heart and just say what you "THINK you should say because you are black and therefore must be proud of it". I also know for sure that all of you (who obviously love white women and are on this forum for that purpose) would say yea I wanna be reborn white if EVERY white woman you have asked out rejected you for your being black and you knew there was no WAY you could be happy marrying any woman other than a white woman.

 

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Case and point! First you must define what is black and what is white. If that is then definitive enough, you must then apply it to the real world. The problem is, you can not quantify who is black or white by mere appearance. By talking about "blackness" or "whiteness" it allows us to remain in these niches, and so, I have watched and listened carefully to one conversation after another, especially here, where one black male after another talks about their racial discourse, taking note not just of what people say, but what they walk away with. And from all this, I can only draw one conclusion, which I loath to believe but the evidence keeps supporting it: Most people, most of the time, effectively talk about nothing--because conversation for them is not about what it said, but about how it makes them feel. And how it makes them feel dates back to those childhood clans; how it makes them feel is, quite simply, that they are accepted.

This why I continue to be a leper to these conditions, the definition of black and white are but mere meaningless concepts where acceptance and rejection of one is irrelevant. It seems a proposition, which will not admit of much dispute, that all our ideas are nothing but copies of our impressions, or, in other words, that it is impossible for us to think of anything, which we have not antecedently felt, either by our external or internal senses. So I will continue to tear down these concepts because they are not definitive enough

 

What, like I try to do to your concepts of 'maleness' and 'femaleness' and am laughed at? There is no difference: in each case a set of assumptions is attached to an individual on the basis of physical characteristics.

 

I'd probably off myself if I woke up one morning as some non-descript white guy.

 

There is obviously "differences" between 'male' and 'female' that goes beyond mere physical characteristics -- from autonomy and nature to biology. By nature, men are nearly alike; it is only by practice, which they get to be wide apart.

I do dare you to try to prove that 'male' and 'female' have very little "differences."