I just gotta ask

you maybe right about that.....however there are somethings that need to be said about frats and soros......

as I stated its an oxymoron to take on a culture (like beating on another man and demean another man) why would a black man do that and take on the name that excluded them....I have a problem with that.

also they , like the racists and slaveowners did, practice segregation. sororities and frats would practice the brown paper bag test. if you were darker than the brown paper bag then you cant get in. watch the spike lee movie "school daze"...he talked about that

so why a real black man who loves himself be a part of that shit

 

Real shit fam gotta rep you

 

brown paper bag test

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080827121055AAXaLmP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color#Brown_paper_bag_test

Examples of African American Colorism

[edit] Brown paper bag test

The phrase “brown paper bag test” has traditionally been used by African Americans throughout the twentieth and twenty-first century with reference to a ritual once practiced by certain African-American sororities and fraternities who would not let anyone into the group whose skin tone was darker than a paper bag.[21] Also known as a paper bag party, these lighter-skinned social circles reflected an idea of exclusion and exclusiveness. The notion of the “paper bag” has carried a complex and obscure meaning in black communities for many decades.[21] The reason for the usage of the "paper bag" is because the color of the paper bag is considered to be the "center" marker of blackness that distinguishes “light skin” from “dark skin” on a continuum stretching infinitely from black to white.[21] Also, the brown paper bag is believed to act as a benchmark for certain levels of acceptance and inclusion.[21] Spike Lee's film School Daze satirized this practice at historically black colleges and universities.[22] Along with the "paper bag test," guidelines for acceptance among the lighter ranks included the "comb test" and “pencil test,” which tested the coarseness of one's hair, and the "flashlight test," which tested a person's profile to make sure their features measured up or were close enough to those of the Caucasian race.[21]

 

thanks my brother

 

I have to let the people know....

 

you aint been 'black' since you started dreaming about WW mothafucka

go on with that shit

 

OOOOHHH NOOOO. LOL

 

you mofos go on a real black forum and see how fast you'd lose your race card when you start posting naked ass gifs of scarlett johansen

 

how about wearing a HBCU shirt and rolling with a WW

 

LOL shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

could u imagine the drama over that

i should google 'hbcu white women black men'



i read a long time ago, something about Ja Rule wanting to play at a HBCU

they protested against him, because in like 2001 he was frontin nothin but white girls in a club scene from his video 'Livin it Up'

 

I wouldnt doubt that. I know something about one entertainer greating grilled by black women before but im not sure why tho

 

but yo

how u gunna go to a 'HBCU' for a concert, when you cut out BW like that from ur videos

dem sistas was like 'this mofo right here..................'

 

LOL. you know...its funny they ask not to be objectified but then get mad because you used someone other race to be objectified..


Im not good enuff to be sexually objectified

 

damned if u do, damned if u dont

u dont want to be objectified, but when u see me parading around with ww, u come at my neck about why i dont have bw

:smt043

 

"Beating and demeaning another man" Is that all you get from what a Fraternity is? So you just ignore the support, networking and brotherhood they provide. (like Boxing doesn't beat and demean, but I bet you've watched plenty Boxing matches).

The reality is GL, male initiation rituals of a physical nature are practiced world-wide and are often viewed as central components of manhood or brotherhood. In many parts of Africa alone, young men endure whippings and beatings in unflinching silence in their-rites-of-passage to be considered men in the village.


We know about the brown paper-bag test. Why are you throwing up Wiki as if Frats invented it?
Yes Fraternities partook in it, but during that time so did thousands of other Institutions and people in Black society. Ever visit DC? Ever been to a barber shop? In the mid-19th Century, barbershops served only light-skinned brothas. Ever been to a party with fellow Blacks? A Club? A Black Church? A Black Civic group? A School? Wait, isn't that YOUR choice of profession? Scrap that decision, I hope. Because all those places along with various organizations utilized the paper bag test for social verification.


Yes, I saw School Daze but a Spike Lee movie does not define Fraternities. Are you serious? I would HOPE that you wouldn't use what was once widely practiced across many social circles to try to implicate that Frats are therefore 'coonish" and slave boys'. Do you bloody homework GL.


BTW, you also mocked their Stepping when many of the popular steps today hail directly from NIGERIA from a Nigerian immigrant who was a Frat. I bet his dark skin failed the BPB test, right?

You're doing a real disservice because you just want to down the troll.

 

My older brother went through a few hazing rituals when he was a pledge. He showed us a picture of one of the rituals. He and the other pledges had to sit in a room, blindfolded and they were ordered to eat a whole, peeled, raw onion. They suffered through that. The taste of the onion and the juice that is a natural tear inducer. He even told me a few horror stories about one ritual where a pledge was buried alive. Once he was accepted, his shoulder was branded. I had been to a frat party once. My younger brother was with us. My younger brother drank a few beers and we kept asking him is he was okay. It seemed that he liked fraternity life, too. There was comraderie and networking and support. They(the fraternity) still meet up from time to time.

 

Great post, girl! :smt023

 

Really now? :smt077

 

To be fair I wanted to pledge in undergrad since one of my best friends was the local president. I was being vetted since my campus didn't have a chapter so I pledge through one of the local colleges that did. It was all cool until they had a function I was invited to and I brought a friend with me who was a white Cuban. Motherfuckas stuck us by the bathroom far from everyone else.
Shit disgusted me so much I didn't stay for the whole thing. So in short for men like me who like to live a multicultural kind of existence maybe an organization so focused on race isn't the best fit. I get GL's point because for as much good as a lot of these organizations have done they have also upheld the coercive and discriminatory practices of similar white institutions.