I get so mad I sometimes. I really do hate G-d at times

Discussion in 'Religion, Spirituality and Philosophy' started by goodlove, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    TWO sets of flash cards? Holy shit!
     
  2. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    two too many...??? :p
     
  3. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    LOL!

    I can think of another poster or two who can use this....
     
  4. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Too Two many. :smt005
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    LOL.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    The one thing you can take from religion is the saying I help those that help themselves. right now you don't want to help yourself.
     
  7. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    very good PT.

    The wheels of justice are spinning at this time. at this time she has been convicted for forgery but it took me a year to do it. I had talked to several police officers and they stated that it should not have taken no more than 3 months to investigate this kind of case. That is niether here nor there what I was trying to provoke was the following:

    * trying to get people to talk about the philosophical/theological
    reason of hard times for people who follow G-d

    * and should we question G-d and should we get upset at G-d for the hardtimes?
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2010
  8. reggie2k8

    reggie2k8 New Member

    When I stopped believing in him things made a whole lot more sense. There is too much evil and messed things in the world for me to believe in the Christian/Muslim/Jewish god.

    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?”
     
  9. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    :)
     
  10. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    Interesting....
     
  11. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    what did you see when you stopped believing ?
     
  12. reggie2k8

    reggie2k8 New Member

    Well when you believe in God and good things happen to you I think alot of people say hey I must be blessed. But when something bad happens people often ask why me? What did I do wrong to deserve this? If you remove god from the picture you then realize that everything is chance and luck on why things happen.

    I won the lottery, well I must been lucky (instead of some God in the sky compensating me for going to church). My parents died in a freak accident, well people die everyday and it just happened to be my parents(instead of some God is trying to punish me because I haven't been to church in a month). None of these actually happened I'm just using these as examples of how a religious and non-religious person would view a situation.
     
  13. alexg1989

    alexg1989 New Member

    Don't be angry at God... God would never do this simply because he can't. He can't because he doesn't exist.

    You got screwed over by your ex simply because she's a bitch...
     
  14. Stheno

    Stheno New Member

    Well if there is or not god one day we all going to find out .. but if there is i don't care either i book my ticket to the underworld :p
     
  15. z

    z Well-Known Member

    There is a God and I have experienced his presence in many situations... I have felt and witnessed his power, mercy and glory, be it in a birthing room or trauma operating room saving life, healing the sick and bringing back the dead.

    Hell... he even brought me out of my own fucken grave....

    Thank you Jesus, bless this life and bless the one who cry to you daily.
     
  16. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    There are times I feel his presence, and other times I don't. But I think He exists. I'm not a big fan of religion though.
     
  17. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Here's the thing: I believe in God. I even describe myself as Christian, although I don't belong to a church.

    But whether God exists or not, by both definitions, this situation is entirely man made.

    If God, as described by Christians, exists as described than he has given humanity free will. That means there is no divine intervention. He doesn't love Donald Trump any more than he loves brutalized children in the Sudan. There is no amount of praying you can do that will make God improve your life or punish your enemies.

    If God exists, then so does free will, which means it's all up to us. Which means some people will choose to be Bad. Will choose to hurt others for personal gain. Sometimes bad things will happen for no reason at all, and sometimes they will happen because someone caused them to happen, and either way, God's not coming to help. If the Christian definition of God exists, then it is our job to survive our time on this planet causing the least harm we can to others, even when they try to harm us.

    On this Earth we will not be rewarded or punished by anyone other than those here on Earth (or, you know, maybe Hawking's aliens will attack, who knows, but you get my point).

    When we suffer, we imagine ourselves as Job and we think maybe God's just working out some petty bet with the Devil over our lives, and maybe if we pray hard enough he'll give it all back or maybe we should just get mad at him and maybe He'll notice us, but look at the people who have it worse than you.

    Look at babies born addicted to crack, or boys captured by warlords or forced into prostitution. Are those people less good than you? Do you think they love God less? No. They don't deserve what happens to them, and if God exists this is not what He wants for them. Moreover, if he hasn't saved them, it is pointless to wait for him to save you.

    If He doesn't exist, the same is true. No one is coming to help, regardless if there's anyone there or not. Not because God is bad, but because either he's not there, or because He gave humanity the control over our own lives and only we can save ourselves.


    There is an old African saying that gets repeated a lot in my house: "When you pray, move your feet". You must move your own feet. He will not move them for you.
     
  18. whikle

    whikle Well-Known Member

    So if you don't believe he's gonna save you or help you or have any influence over your life... what's the point in believing?
     
  19. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Two things:

    One, there is still the possibility of afterlife. When this life is finished, we may find the rewards, or at least the peace, we could not find here.


    Two, I believe that following in God's Way (aka way of love) provides comfort and hope and strength while facing the suffering and struggle of this Earth. For instance: those around you can degrade you and put you down and insult every part of you. But if you know you have lived your life trying to be good, trying to treat others kindly, there is nothing anyone else can say to take that away from you. They cannot diminish that knowledge which you carry within yourself, and you can find comfort there. People with great wealth and power sometimes feel empty inside. For instance, think back to being a kid and knowingly telling a lie to your parents, and think how that felt inside, like it was always in your head, weighing on you. But if you live your life as a good person, trying to be good & kind and fair to all, you can be free within yourself, no matter what actually happens to your body or your surroundings.
     
  20. z

    z Well-Known Member

    The kingdom of God lives with in me and all around me, not in house made out of brick or stone.
     

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