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And back on ignore you go you crazy wacked out HILL BILLY. Yippe kiyah mothafuka

 

I have a question about the posts on this thread around Page 23 - 25. If I were to call a white guy "cracker" based on how he appears and presents himself, do you think many people around me would perceive that as being a racial slur although most of the people on this site have the opinion that it isn't a racial/ethnic slur?

I found some more things for you from doing some reading. The information I'm about to post is pretty sensitive, please don't attack the messenger here. The bolded portions reflect my opinions on the matter of the racial identity of bi-racial children.

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/rvp/pubaf/chronicle/v11/f13/rockquemore.html

I hope the second to last paragraph clears up some misunderstandings that I've noticed from people while I've read this thread. There are 4 different variations on bi-racial identity, so that's why I would say that everyone is correct based on what they've said here.

 

Does he plan on being a history teacher? I wonder what the job prospects are like for him?

I would say that it largely depends on who you insult and how that person takes the insult. The definition of the word varies based on who it is directed to and the way it was intended to be used.

 

Yes. He did a 5 year program which not only earned him the BA in History, but also gave him enough education credits to qualify for teacher certification. Eventually he'd like to get his master's and teach at a community college level, where he feels he can really make a difference to students, but for now he's looking at teaching high school

 

Oh, ok. That makes sense to me. Hopefully he'll land the job at a high school. Then he could move on to a higher level. In someways, I think History is something that is fascinating, although it's not an educational pursuit for me. Jobs with computers and IT are best for me.

 

I don't think that it clears up anything. In my opinion, the assertions or conclusions of ONE study aren't dispositive of the issues in this matter. In the matter of this particular story I would be interested in the detail of the study, how he chose his subjects, where they lived geographically, information about their parents, the questions posed, who asked the questions, etc. All of these factors could influence the outcome and the conclusion of the study.

As an example of something I find troubling about the research project, a conclusion appears to be drawn from the fact that one the respondents spoke to the interviewer in a different vernacular than with a group of white friends. However, as evidenced by the posts of BM on this forum many black people in general use certain speech, depending on the audience. The study doesn't seem to recognize this reality. What other gaps between the study and conclusion exist?

You have look at any study with scrutiny, regardless of where it's done. People often assume that there's validity in any study that's conducted in a University environment. This simply isn't true and you only need to do a simple internet search to find that there're often problems with all categories of studies, from social studies to medical studies, at Ivy League Universities or Government funded projects.

 

Folk me makin' up shit when you think "Hillbilly" is a racial slur.

I really pay you no attention because you are a typical slow wit southern yokel.

 

I am somewhat of a history buff as well, my degree is in African-American history and I minored in Asian studies.

 

Amen fam

 

Okay, that's your view and I respect your opinion. I decided to post that particular one up because I believed that it illustrates that there's something essential that we're missing out of this debate about what it means to be bi-racial.

I'm not taking sides with anyone here, I just seem to agree with the sociology professor's perspective about bi-racial identity. In addition to that Swirlman, there's a 220 page book that she created titled "Beyond Black: Bi-Racial Identity in America". Perhaps if we ordered the book, we could gain a lot more information which explains her reasoning of why she thinks this way about this issue. The latest edition of book is $80 though, definitely out of my price range.

http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Black-...0546/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311009198&sr=8-1

 

Of course it's my opinion, just as the study, to me, represents her opinion, as opposed to the "factual" findings of her study. I understand that you would post it BECAUSE you hold a similar opinion.

Based on what I recognize as one readily identifiable misplaced conclusion, I have no interest in her book. Anyone can publish a book if they have the money. In this case, having a book selling for such an exorbitant price suggests to me that it could have been self funded, though I'm not the expert on the subject.

Separate from opinion, it's very factual that many studies plainly are filled with errors or draw false conclusions for many reasons. If you do that research I'm sure that you will find this to be true as well.

 

Bolded part is a very true point. It all boils down to intent.

 

me too.....

 

My mistake, I mis-read the page. The Hardcover format of the book was $80, the paperback format of the book was $29.95.

I am aware that studies and documentations are prone to errors, anything is, but I don't think I would discredit the entire thing just because there's an error that's present. Errors have happened to all of us at least once in our lives.

 

I'd have repped you but I have to spread it around first.

Too many people are willing to accept badly done "research" as a statistical analysis rather than a collection of anecdotal data.

 

:-D History has always fascinated me. While I've never done African-American history, I went to high school in the experimental 1970s and had the chance to take an African History course (taught by a little old white man in a bow tie, but very enthusiastic), and it opened my eyes to the world beyond European history.

 

What? did you really just tell her that, while her and Pixie were debating history?

Not to mention that it's this country's racial history that is the central theme to this topic.

So, Regina can from this point on call you A BITCH back, right, since you called her out of pocket like that? Except from what I've read, she won't. (even though I would) You may not like her POV, but she never calls anyone any insulting names (heck she doesn't even swear), and even if she doesn't agree with/or like anther's POV, she (surprisingly) remains linguistically pure/respectful in her response style.

I have to give it to her that no matter how many of you come at her, her passion remains intact and she doesn't resort to weak-minded faux "e-tough" responses such as this crap below...

Maybe that "seek truth" hand is better spent facing you.

 

Sigh.... okay, I guess you, Swirlman and the others are correct here.

I say this because I remember reading about studies of black men (some of which came from this website) that were written in a means of being conducted in a negative context. Swirlman also made a post a few weeks ago saying something like "If everyone believed in the statistics about the African American community, many white women wouldn't have preferred to date black men." So I guess there is truth to your point of view and the other people here who share the same perspective you do about some statistical manipulation that could occur in studies like these.

I thank everyone for the knowledge and information they've presented in this thread that I've just learned.