'Hancock': Will & Charlize Movie (update)

Well...I emailed Will's publicist and I asked her point-blank about whether or not there would be love/sex scenes bet. Will & Charlize. Her response: There's no explicit love/sex scenes in the movie bet. the two.

Why am I not surprised???

The Kid Rasta

 

Did i not tell you this from the beginning, Kid? C'mon man, you know better than to think Hollywood will go there.

 

Why would there be explicit love/sex scenes, in a movie thats rated PG13?

 

The flick is still being shot. Unless you know something I don't...how do you know it's PG13??? It will be quite a long time b4 it will be reviewed by the movie ratings panel -- they make the decisions as to what the rating will be.

The Kid Rasta 8)

 

Yeah It is like I said there are 2 mainstream IR movies still in pre-production since '05:

Charlize theron's Ice at the bottom of the world is one of them
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414141/


Emma's War
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370533/


And "Little Darlings" J.lo & nicole kidman's flick, "Night Train" the sonny liston story, Sammy davis j.r. story all have fallen off the face of the earth for some reason.

 

Interesting about her working no "explicit" love/scenes. You can take that in many ways. Love and Basketball with Sanaa Lathan had a little love scene in it and still made PG-13. It's a convenient excuse.

Hollywood routinely emasculates black male sexuality even for the biggest black stars. Meanwhile white guys get to run through the hottest black women like Sanaa, Zoe Saldana, Halle Berry and more.

...but America isn't racist. Right.

 

America isn't as racist as hollywood though(more so mainstream.) Hollywood, and our american entertainment obviously has a BM, WW Interracial problem, due to that usage of bw, wm hook-up, then they have sanaa lathan go on oprah and lie about that there has never been an Interracial romance movie between wm, bw until her movie which led oprah, and others obviously to buy into that. I mean it is what it is if I could get the number of mainstream bw, wm interracial v.s. ww, bm interracial I garauntee!! you it is more. Just look at the amount of mainstream white actors that have done interracial v.s. mainstream ww:
WM:
Billy Bob Thornton
Tom cruise
Jude Law
Kevin Costner
Ashton Kutcher
Robert Deniro
ETC. (I know Im missing some, can't think of them right now.)

WW:
0

And Im not talking about the ones who wasn't mainstream before Im talking about at the time.

 

Two nights ago I saw the movie via gratis pass called Things We Lost in the Fire. Starring Halle Berry as the widow of the character played by David Duchovny who meets his friend played by Benicio Del Toro who was a heroin addict. In the flashbacks there are intimate scenes between Berry and Duchovny which are never done if the movie was made if the races are reversed. Hollywood will never change.

 

I of all people have never defended Hollywood's double standard but once again I think some of you are way off in this case.

First of all it is likely to be a PG-13 flick. While its script may be a bit more mature than the average Hollywood flick, the studios still consider this to be a mainstream, big budget, blockbuster. Those types of movies are almost never rated R these days. If the filmmakers were considering making this movie an R film trust me it would make news because of the rarity of such types of mainstream pictures. So I'm sure the intent has always been for a PG-13 rating.

Next of all Charlize's character is married in this movie. Can you think of a big-budget, mainstream flick for a wide audience in which the heroine not only has an affair outside the marriage, but also explicit love scenes of this affair are shown as well? This ain't France, this is America. Not too many of those those types of scenarios if any in modern day mainstream Hollywood films. We're not talking Diane Lane films about wives being tempted that are intended for a MATURE audience here, folks. This is a completely different type of motion picture.

Yes, there is stilll a major problem with Hollywood dealing with black men-white woman love and/or relationships. This movie won't solve that problem or make up for all that has happened. But for a mainstream movie its a big step in the right direction.

 

Big step in the right direction how? If your are talking about the pairing there has been many of those.

BTW
Is there anything between the two? (hollywood style IR more than likely.) Is his character suppose to fall for her......I know how they like to throw out those tease like that

 

And in the denzel flick american gangster I heard the real life character's woman was white, but with the real gangster approving of the movie and so much respect going on around this movie Im on the mends about if it is true or not. Can anyone help me out there.

 

Yes. Frank Lucas' (the person the movie was based on) wife was white....but, in the flick, Denzel has a Latina playing his wife. I really think that was Denzel's idea -- he could have gotten a white actress to play his wife, mos def.

The Kid Rasta 8)

 

How does the wife feel about that? (if she is still alive.)
If she isn't how in the hell are they getting away with that? Because this girl is full blooded hispanic
http://www.daniaramirez.net/news.html

and if you check imdb and other sites with the movie cast it almost like they are trying to cover it.

 

Oh, really? Many of those? Please list them for me. List me all the major motion Hollywood films in which a black man and a white woman have romantic feelings for one another (let alone act upon them). I must have been missing out on them all these years.

I'll make it easy for you...you can limit your list to just the past twenty years or even just ten years if you can't go back that far. I'm pretty certain that list will be pretty damn small. Don't include any independent films ; just movies made by the major studios for a mainstream audience. Good luck with coming up with ten over a twenty year span. You will probably have to rely on teen flicks like Save the Last Dance and various versions of Othello in which race is a key point of the plot. This film though has nothing to do with race because the role was written for a white man. They just happened to cast Will Smith in the leadd and were bold enough to have the love interest be white. Its no different than the casting of Thandie Newton in MI2 or Halle Berry in Die Another Day or Whitney Houston in Bodyguard (all of those roles were not written for black actresses). Interracial casting in big budget Hollywood flicks like that happens all the time as long as the male lead is white. It essentially never happens with a black man and a white woman being chosen to play love interests and yet you claim there have been many such pairings? Come on.

I believe both characters fall for each other though I'm going to bet in the end she ends back with her husband.

 

I don't know about that. In real life Franck Lucas' wife, as she is in the movie, was a former Ms Puerto Rico. Now there's a chance she could have been white (Spaniard/Spanish) but I think from what I once heard she was actually mestizo. In fact in the film though the actress is apparently mestizo her character's father is played by Joe Morton, an African American actor. So for all we know in reality the Puerto Rican wife may have been a Latina of African (or partially African) descent like so many of the folks from that island. When Antoine Fuqua was directing the film he indeed cast a black Hispanic actress to play the part of the wife. Of course that whole thing fell apart and the film was put on the shelf for about two years. So who knows. I have never seen a picture of the wife or heard a description of her. In the New York magazine which the movie was based on it was mentioned she was a former Miss Puerto Rico but did not describe her in any way. She may have been mestizo, black, white or a combo. I'll try to look into it.

 

Sorry to give a lecture but there is no such thing as full blooded Hispanic. Hispanic is not a race. Perhaps you meant full blooded natives (which for better of worse is the term I will use for the indigenous people of those lands). Most Latino stars though are either white or mestizo (mixture of white and indeginous people). Also a very large number of them are black or a mixture of black and something else.

Daniara Ramirez is a mix and in her case she has some African blood in her. She was the original choice to play the wife when the film was about to shoot two plus years ago (back then it was called "True Blue" and was to be directed by Antoine Fuqua). But when Ridley Scott picked up the film a couple of years later most of the cast (outside Denzel) had been changed. Ramirez is not playing the wife in the film but some websites still have yet to update their information and still list her. That's just sloppiness and laziness on the websites' part but trust me she is not playing that role.

And IMDB is not trying to cover up anything. IMDB, unlike the other sites, updated its information.

 

Here's a link to pictures of the actress who plays the wife at the New York premiere of AG.

Her name is Lymari Nadal and I fogot to mention she is Edward James Olmos' very young wife. Mr Olmos is gettin' it done.


http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryLis...&str=&styp=&sfld=&nbc1=1&sortval=3a&PageNum=3

 

Halle said she had to fight for that role. Putting Halle in there basically mean the kids had to change as well. I do realize that black women who want to work have to go after roles penned for white women. This is a failing of black men and women for not having more autonomy to create our own films and find success.

 

Even if they had more autonomy its the success part that woud still be a bit difficult since non-black people tend to not support films with a majority black cast. And its even worse, on that front, outside of America where black films do horrible business.

 

JS,

My bad -- you're right...Frank Lucas' wife was Puerto Rican. I saw her pic somewhere, and I thought she was white cause she was a light-skinned Puerto Rican.

Here's Denzel with the actress, Lymari Nadal (she's married to Edward James Olmos in real life), who plays his wifey:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0765...jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Nadal, Lymari

The Kid Rasta 8)