for colored girls - Tyler perry. AAWWW hell..black men aint shit movie

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by goodlove, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    great list. unfortuantely the black community painted poitier as the spineless negroe. you heard of them the good boy , the negroe that is a credit to his race and so forth. blacks didnt really like sidney at the time despie the quality roles he played
     
  2. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    I hate when I see a commercial for a black movie because it's always gonna be set in the hood. They always want some realistic setting(the hood) with unrealistic sitcom scenarios(chasing Santa through the hood). Like petty said, we need some Star Wars level shit. When I saw the commercial for "Lottery Ticket", I was like "what 'creative' nigga done wrote this shit?" and "who would choose this shit as their directorial debut?" I also hate when they call some shit an "all-star cast" for this kind of shit.

    I also remember that ghetto ass golf course, country club movie with Big Boi and a few other muthafuckas. I think I remember a golf cart with rims on it and every nigga had on thug golfing gear.



    I just don't watch movies anymore unless they're some kind of slasher flick or comedy movie.
     
  3. botoan

    botoan Active Member

    Hopefully, Will Smith will be successful in bringing a movie about Taharqa the black Nubian pharaoh of Egypt to the big screen it will cost probably cost $100 to $200 million to make. Carl Franklin who I mentioned earlier was involved in the initial script. But, that is just one movie!

    I could be wrong but, I think Spike Lee's Malcolm X is the closest thing to epic that has been centered around a black lead.

    Will Smith and Eddie Murphy proved that we can carry big budgets, at one point these two where the greatest money making actors in history, for studios and investors that is. They made wealthy people, wealthier. You would think our situation would be better. We sell ourselves short by putting up with this b.s.
     
  4. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member

    Sadly enough there is some truth to that. Is there any group of men on this Earth ran by their women as much as African American males?
     
  5. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member

    Pretty much.
     
  6. botoan

    botoan Active Member

    True, in retrospect so many of our pioneers have been looked down at, by those that merely stand on the sidelines of life.
     
  7. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    dont know if that's good or bad

    kinda like when they applaud you for articulation, or the way you walk. Do you walk with the brotherly confidence, or do you tighten it up to look like a white man? Rhetorical question.
     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    dont forget coming to america .... that was great. Bommer rang was awesome. Whitefolks hated that because it was well established bf and especially a educated BM who was the main character. the main character was smooth , smart and successful. something EVERY WOMAN white and black would love to have.

    they had the 3 types of dudes.

    1) martin, the dawg
    2) david alan grier, the overly nice guy
    3) eddie , the mix between the 2, ( the mack)

    all 3 were educated and successful

     
  9. little chicken

    little chicken New Member

    so i just saw the movie.. really didn't like the niggas aint shit message it seemed to have

    so there was a rapist, a man that cheats, a dude on the DL and one that beats his woman and kills kids... are there any movies where black men are in a positive light?

    movie was pretty good tho
     
  10. satyr

    satyr New Member

    Uh, I'd probably skin your little white chicken ass alive if you said this front of me.

    You've been assigned standards, write "I am not remotely black, and therefore should keep certain words out of my casual vocabulary." 1,000 times.

     
  11. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    :smt043:smt043:smt043Get 'em!!!!
     
  12. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    LC, it doesn't matter how many black men you've dated or how many black friends you have; you NEVER have any business using that word in any form or fashion. I don't care if it's in a damn song you're singing along to, because even then you need to skip over that shit. As a woman who dates black men you should know better. I'm not trying to be a bitch; just take my advice as constructive criticism. I don't think your intention was to offend anybody, but your intentions don't matter when it's something offensive.

    I agree 100%
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2010
  13. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    This thread consisted of a whole lot of buhooing.
     
  14. rich665

    rich665 Restricted

    I saw the movie and it didn't make black men look bad. People who are saying that are straight ignorant. Turn on the evening news & you'll see black men look bad.
     
  15. aaronkid

    aaronkid New Member

    Most dramatic works are about a struggle of some kind. I think if it were an action film, then it would be like some of the films you mentioned. Films with colored people in the lead might not be in the majority, but there's something in every niche. As for this being a "black men aint shit movie," I doubt that is fair. I've seen films like this featuring white women, and I don't think the point is to gratuitously bash black men. I also don't think the film is something anachronistic. Although it is based upon an older play, someone probably experiences a reality that allows them to identify with the film. That withstanding, I have no problem with it. Below is a review by someone who has seen the film:

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    For Colored Girls

    BY ROGER EBERT / November 3, 2010



    Cast & Credits
    Crystal/Brown Kimberly Elise
    Jo/Red Janet Jackson
    Juanita/Green Loretta Devine
    Tangie/Orange Thandie Newton
    Yasmine/Yellow Anika Noni Rose
    Kelly/Blue Kerry Washington
    Nyla/Purple Tessa Thompson
    Alice/White Whoopi Goldberg
    Gilda Phylicia Rashad

    Lionsgate presents a film written and directed by Tyler Perry, based on the play by Ntozake Shange. Running time: 134 minutes. Rated R (for disturbing violence including a rape, sexual content and language).


    Some plays resist filming. They exist as stage fantasies that can’t survive the greater realism of cinema. When a stage character performs a soliloquy, we understand exactly what’s happening. When a film character does it, it can feel strange. A monologue on film, sure — but not a poetic construction unlike the ordinary speech in the same film.

    Director-writer Tyler Perry’s ambitious "For Colored Girls" is based on the Tony-nominated "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide/When the Rainbow Is Enuf" by Ntozake Shange. Many in the audience will have seen it onstage, and that will be an advantage; they’ll understand what Perry is attempting. Ordinary moviegoers, accustomed to Perry’s mainline films, are likely to be thrown off by the unconventional approach here. Perry tries to be faithful to the play and also to his own boldly and simply told stories, and the two styles don’t fit together.

    He also paints a cluttered canvas. The play featured seven characters (each known by a color) in seven places with seven kinds of problems. He adds three other significant roles, in order to flesh out actions that the play described in prose. This is too literal. His actors do an effective job with their soliloquies, but the audience is tugged back and forth between the stylized speech and the straight dramatic material.

    Too bad. What a cast he has assembled: Kimberly Elise (Crystal/Brown), Janet Jackson (Jo/Red), Loretta Devine (Juanita/Green), Thandie Newton (Tangie/Orange), Anika Noni Rose (Yasmine/Yellow), Kerry Washington (Kelly/Blue), Tessa Thompson (Nyla/Purple) and Whoopi Goldberg (Alice/White). Then there’s Phylicia Rashad as a wise woman who lives in the same apartment house with six of the others, sees all and provides a running commentary.

    The Rashad character is new. So are Beau Willie (Michael Ealy), a war veteran and victim of post-traumatic stress syndrome who obsesses about Crystal, and Carl (Omari Hardwick), a rich closeted gay conducting a doomed marriage with Jo. Crystal works for Jo, an imperious magazine editor, establishing some class conflict. The movie, like the play, distributes other problems among the women, so that we seem to be moving between episodes of a soap opera.

    Shange’s award-winning play is justly respected, but I’m not sure it’s filmmable, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a wise choice for Perry. He seems more at home with everyday, human-comedy types of people, and here I think he is, if anything, too wary of his material. If he’d gone all the way in rewriting it into a more conventional drama, he might have been criticized by lovers of the play, but he might have made a more entertaining and accessible film.

    That’s not to say "For Colored Girls" doesn’t have its virtues. Seeing these actresses together is a poignant reminder of their gifts, and of the absence of interesting roles for actresses in general and African-American ones in particular. A generation has been often shut out of fruitful roles.

    I saw the movie twice, and although it never worked for me as a whole, the second time I found myself appreciating many of its parts more. The soliloquies don’t fit, but taken as free-standing dramatic entries, they’re strongly done. So there are elements here, but not a fully rounded film.
     
  16. aaronkid

    aaronkid New Member

    I also want to say that I have enough cynicism regarding what is lacking for films with AfroAmerican leads, and I'd like to see people in many more diverse and intelligent roles, so I sympathize. But I don't think this film represents my hang-ups.
     
  17. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Yes, but there are only a few.
     
  18. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    So few you can count with your fingers.
     
  19. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I agree with the earlier post about seeing more I Am Legend, Blade, and the like. No needless neckbone acting, just action/adventure/plot in which race or the caricature of it is not the key ingredient.
     
  20. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    Well i have to say this.

    i personally don't have a problem with Tyler. Some of his films are decent.

    Why Did i get Married Part 1 was pretty decent. it was a movie that asked important questions and had both positive and negative characters both male and female.

    but at the end of the day Tyler's company has to put out product that sells.

    He's movies create jobs for black actors which is now more difficult being that most movie roles now go straight to rappers and R&B singers now.

    So that's why we See so many

    And the "black men aint #^%&" Movie makes alot of $$$$ for Tyler and Lionsgate.

    She Hate Me & Miracle of St. Anne were both commercial flops. i personally felt they were masterpieces but movies that uplift a black man don't always sell very well.

    Its really a Money thing.

    The Cosby Show days are over and long gone. its amazing because i just recently saw some reruns of The Cosby Show and the spin-off series A Different World.

    Those were the days. Now that i''m older now i can appreciate that show much more than i could when i was younger.

    Even a tv show like New York Undercover was positive show. But atleast in the entertainment industry positive doesn't always sell very well.
     

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