Fatten Him Up

Men are guilty of the same thing when it comes to wanting a quality woman when they have zip to bring to the table themselves.

 

In the short term yeah but as far as ltr they tend to aim lower. At least as far as I've seen.

 

So true.

When its a guy they like they want him to fight for them and be persistent when its someone they don't like dude is a stalker.

 

Much as I hate to, I have to agree with this. Either women have to get better at indicating a clear "no", or men have to brush up on their mindreading skills to better distinguish when "no" really means "yes" and when it actually, truly means "NO!"

 

Thanks for completely throwing my topic way off boys.

OK some women expect a partner who exceeds their market value. Are we to believe that men never want women who are more impressive than the average prospect?

 

Absolutely but more often than not men know to attain those women they have to compensate for whatever they know they lack. Men who aren't attractive know that if they want that really hot girl they have to be charming and funny and it doesn't hurt if they have a little money too. A lot of women(not all) will demand the dude with the chiseled body and great job with nothing to offer other than what they think is a great personality.

 

Lol finally we agree on something :smt038:smt058

 

My bad scholar......I am partly culpable.....the questions you pose are relevant, pertinent and good food for thought..........

 

I saw a study a few weeks ago that was aimed at men.
It said that men think that women need to be at least a "7" to get a "10" man, but men only had to be a "5" to get a "10" woman. I wish I had found it now, because I don't remember where I found it.

I don't think for a minute that women aim higher than women in terms of looks - and men equally think a woman is a stalker if the attention is not desired.

 

I know, what you mean, Ches, but I am asking myself, why i.e. do we in Germany need a law against stalking...because so many women are incapable to express a clear NO? I can tell about several, not just one, occasions, when friends of mine or myself were coped in an uncomfortable or violent situation, because men didn't want to understand a NO..

 

I want to see that study because I posted a pbs/discovery channel documentary that stated the opposite. And bet your lucky stars if a 5 male is going for a 10 female thats one well accomplished and wealthy mofo ie Jay-Z Beyonce

 

Its not either or its probably both. There is a culture where playing hard to get is still considered cute, where there are a lot of young women who use sexuality to get attention and send mixed signals. You can't wear clothing that is designed for you to get attention from men you don't know and then complain men that you don't know are giving you attention. It may not be the case in every single situation but it happens a lot. Not to mention the slue of women who flirt to get attention and things they want like free drinks but have no real interest in the men getting it for them.

 

I find the picture, what a woman is nowadays,alarming. It seems that a woman is only an object for sexual wishes. What you say about some women and drinks..what can I say,definitly these women are not the ones you should talk to. Or better said, look for better environment.

But

To look sexy isn't automatically an invitation to touch.
And just because a man wants a woman, doesn't automatically mean that he can have her. Men are not guided by instincts like animals.Some men just don't accept the wish of a woman. This sexy clothing stuff is a lame excuse for the lack of respect for women.

Mixed signals: If you have the feeling that a woman "isn't really with you"- then leave. Me, as a woman, I also handle it like that.

 

In my opinion, I think its well known that men are more visually guided than women. Which makes very much sense given social expectations in terms or couples and what people bring to the table. There are so many studies validating this. Even stuff you said on wwbm, supports that.

You are the first man I ever know that claim the opposite. I do not know one man that claim that. But that is fine, you can have your opinion - its yours.

There are also many studies that say that men tend to over rate their looks and women under rate their looks in terms of weight, which makes perfect sense to me. I am not going to convince you and vice versa. We can just call it a truce because we will really not get anywhere

 

In an ideal world you'd be correct but its the same as if I were nothing but hip hop urban clothing ie fitted caps, tims, baggy jeans, and a throwback jersey. It's asking for unwanted attention. I should be allowed to dress that way in a free society without suspicion but that's not how it works.
I'm not saying its fair or its how it should be but it seems to be the way it is.

 

Way to stand by your position lol.

Fair enough

 

LOL. It is the best way to go, dot you agree? We are not going to convince the other and that is fair enough for me

Edit: I want to make clear that I dont think men are worse than women.. that is really not wher I come from. I do believe though that the "women are so bad" and "men are so bad" on here is very divisive and both men and women are doing this here. I wish we could just get to the point, which is - there are an equal amount of bad women and men in the world, no side is better.. or worse - there are just people that are bad. I wish we could focus on the good and not the bad - we can not let us be defined by the bad ones. I truly choose to focus on that and ignore the idiots that define themselves by "the other sex being sooo bad and we are just good".
Its like a ricochet/chain reaction on here sometimes, one side say one thing and the other side reacts to that as its an personal insult - me included.

 

All i know is, its more likely for a 300lb woman to say her type of men are physically fit over 6ft hunks than a 300lb man would his type of woman is a svelte woman with cute features. I browse through a lot of BBW forums and that is the picture i get.

 

Ain't that the annoying ass truth...