Ex-President Donald Trump

We can go link for link both pro and con Obamacare, it just depends on who is interpreting the data, it can be spun both ways Bliss.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/18/15987252/obamacare-repeal-working-mcconnell

http://time.com/money/4209465/is-obamacare-working/

 

I say that because I assume I'd know about her being pregnant if she's even somewhat important to me. That said... If she decided that she didn't want to have the child... To me: It's her decision, and I'd deal with it/support her.

 

Agreed! I think the population size argument doesn't come close to holding water. Sure the USA has a large population, but that means it also have a lot of taxpayers, but of course in this country act as if taxes is such a horrible thing. Granted no one likes taxes sort of how no one likes bills, but I have no issue with paying a bit more to for services and such that would benefit the masses.

 

I'm preparing to move to Switzerland right now which has way lower tax (depending on income and state roughly around 16-22%) but still have a healthcare system for everyone. It's certainly not as user friendly as in Germany (you have to pay additional fees for each doctor's visit and medication) but still everyone has access to healthcare in some way. I think there are different models one could implement if the political will was there. The POTUS says America is the greatest country in the universe so am sure he could do it if he wanted to;-)

 

Given that Trump has been a fat shamer for years (http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-overweight-jokes-other-politicians-590515), it would would be just desserts for him to catch a little in return.
Are you telling me that you dont find it just a little bit suspicious that he suddenly gained 1 inch to his height and is now only one pound away from being "obese" (http://www.vocativ.com/359585/did-trump-add-an-inch-to-avoid-being-technically-obese/index.html) based on the BMI?

 

Yet Medicare works.

Kind of shoots a hole into the argument that universal healthcare doesn't work in the USA.

Funny how you can be so anti-establishment on so many other issues, but when it comes to healthcare you're a megaphone for the health insurance industry.

 

Funny you use that word, "con" I dont remember President Obama having to pay a $25 million dollar fine for "conning" real estate students with a fake "university"... And you cannot show ANY proof that Obama conned the country, he left if FAR, FAR, FAR, better than what he inherited from Bush, whether it was the Economy, security of the nation, our leadership in the world, and just about every domestic measurement you can name. Which is why his "first" ranking upon leaving office is a very impressive 12th of all time when compared to other Presidents, and likely to rise over time, https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/all-time-best-president-united-states-rankings-235149

 

I get the spirit in which you defend Obama....but he is not worth it.

Obama is every bit of a corporate puppet than was Bush....he's a huge con artist.
Did he end the spying on Americans or reinstate Habeus Corpus that Bush suspended?

Nope.

...but I get where you're coming from.

 

I hear you too, President Obama did have his failures while in office as well http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/, we can agree to disagree on him being a con-artist, I can see your point of view given prior posts on every politician, having worked on multiple PAC's in my time, it is VERY understandable to come across people who feel the whole system is corrupt as are all in Washington D.C. IMO, President Obama, did an extraordinary job under no less than historical difficulties, and there is plenty of data to back that opinion up...

Alan Krueger
Former Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers

“President Obama came to office with the economy collapsing. We were losing 800,000 jobs a month. Within six months, because of the actions of the administration, the Congress and the Fed, the recession came to an end, and we started a modest recovery. Since job growth started in early 2010, we’ve added over 15 million jobs. That’s considerably more than we saw in the last recovery. That’s in spite of the fact that many of the tools that President Obama requested to help strengthen the recovery, like investing more in infrastructure or raising the minimum wage, Congress refused to act on. So I think history will look back at this time and say that the president did a remarkable job in the midst of great difficulty for the economy.”

 

I see what you did there.

 

Obama did a good job being the Black face of the corporate state.

That's what history will see.

Dude is dining with the same people that supposedly stopped him from doing all the great things he wouldn't have done in the first place.

He bombed Syria....presided over brutal police actions on Black people....even children,without doing jack shit but read a speech.

He didn't lift a finger to restore Habeus Corpus( a fair trail) after Bush suspended it.

 

Fat-shamer, my ass...
Stop perpetuating the lie, Loki.

He defended her from the Press who had been ripping into her over her weight gain..



Decades later, the scared and rabid Dems got to her before the election to lie about him...but the video exposes your lying link and the lying Dem Press, lol.

 

You think that was a compassionate video by Trump??
That was high level fat-shaming at its finest.
Alicia had already been criticized by the Miss Universe pageant, ( read TRUMP), for gaining weight after she won the crown, and now Trump has her in front of multiple media cameras, with her personal trainer, her sitting on a recumbent bike about to exercise, while Trump and her trainer talk about her weight and how she's going to get back in shape before the next pageant.

Trump talks about how she's a stress eater, etc., all indirectly talking about her WEIGHT.

If you really are concerned about a pageant winner's weight gain, you don't put them on blast in front of the NY and international media.
You do it in private and keep it that way.

 

High level fat-shaming? What are you on about? You're full of it.
This was the 90's. Weight was viewed much differently back then. He even inserted his own food weaknesses to commiserate with her. He made excuses for why she overate.

Look, we all know Miss Universe is a business of APPEARANCES and GOOD LOOKS. Contractually, she did not hold up her end of the bargain. She gained 20- 50 lb or whatever it was, and the pageant officials wanted to fire her.

Donald as the new owner after her win, had a choice, agree to her firing or help her get back in shape. You think he didn't speak to her privately as she gained weight?
Additionally, I certainly don't see where he called her "Miss Piggy" like Hillary Clinton claimed out of nowhere in the debate. Hillary lied.

Face it, Alicia was an election pawn plant who was used to attack Trump because of the immigration debate, evident by her sudden appearance 20 years later and her passport tweet and public support for Hillary.

 

Alicia told the TRUTH.

Weight was viewed differently in the 1990s??lol Not for models and pageant contestants.

 

You're either misunderstanding my comment or you're agreeing with me and don't realize.

The 90's was very pro-slim. There was no 'fat acceptance' back then. It was Jane Fonda's Workout, Suzanne Sommers Thigh-master, a skinny Oprah in mom-jeans wheeling out her shed fat on a cart.
It was gyms, Fitness, Shape Mag...BBW wasn't yet born. White girls with big bums wore wrapped sweaters, remember?

So considering how slim-centric the Miss Universe pageant was back then ( and still is), he certainly didn't go off on her.

This is no different than the #metoo movement dragging up hugs and kisses from 20 years ago and calling it sexual assault. He wasn't "fat-shaming" her, he was helping her to keep her title, which he now owned. The fuck you expect him to do. She kept eating and not working it off and wasn't holding up her end of her contract.
Most would have welcomed the professional support to get back in shape for the crown.

 

Quote:

"I have personally taken over a dozen cell phones to the FBI over the last two years from criminal investigations I have worked. The FBI Forensic Tech¿s that pull evidence from phones and computers are the best in the world. Not one of those phones did they have an ounce of trouble getting into. I-Phones, Samsung¿s, it didn¿t matter. They retrieved every deleted text message, photos, watts apps, Snapchat, etc. from the day the phone was activated till the search warrant was served on it. Nothing was not able to be recovered even if the phones were factory reset at some point. That stuff does not go away it just hides someplace in the phone. If these text messages are ¿LOST¿ than they deliberately lost them...That¿s obstruction of justice and maybe treason because they're hampering a criminal investigation."
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Wow, ok even if you truly believe what you wrote above, per below out of his own mouth fat shaming Rosie O'donnel, lets see you spin this... he uses the words fat, chubby in derogatory ways, the very definition of fat shaming.

 

Not quite true about Habeus Corpus Flame, he did in fact try, he actually co-sponsored a bill, but it failed in congress,

• Barack Obama Opposed The Military Commissions Act Because It Did Not Provide Habeas Corpus Rights For Detainees. Obama: "Instead of detainees arriving at Guantanamo and facing a Combatant Status Review Tribunal that allows them no real chance to prove their innocence with evidence or a lawyer, we could have developed a real military system of justice that would sort out the suspected terrorists from the accidentally accused. And instead of not just suspending, but eliminating, the right of habeas corpus -- the seven century-old right of individuals to challenge the terms of their own detention, we could have given the accused one chance -- one single chance -- to ask the Government why they are being held and what they are being charged with." (Sen. Barack Obama, Congressional Record, 9/28/06, p. S10388)

Barack Obama Co-Sponsored "A Bill To Restore Habeas Corpus For Those Detained By The United States." (S. 185, Introduced 1/4/07) http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=93888

However you are technically right Obama promised to restore habeas rights for people the U.S. government deemed enemy combatants. Four years later, prisoners in at least at two U.S. military detention facilities either have no meaningful way to challenge their confinement, or no legal right at all. We rate this a Promise Broken. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...re-habeas-corpus-rights-for-enemy-combatants/ Do keep in mind that this only applied to enemy combatants.

As far as Syria, President Obama did launch airstrikes in Syria, as the US began a military campaign against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. The war against ISIS has led to a steady stream of US bombings from manned aircraft, drones and missiles fired from warships.
The Trump administration continued Obama's bombing campaign against ISIS when Trump was inaugurated. I find it quite funny that there are those that claim President Obama was soft on ISIS yet praise Trump for simply continuing his plan.

 

Oh FGS, you can't be serious bringing up poor lil victim Rosie, can you?

The ignorance showing towards the long-time fued that bitxh Rosie started, is just sad.

Loki, here is why that sorry cow is to blame...


December 2006

When Trump decided not to fire Miss USA Tara Conner after revelations of drug use, underage drinking and sexual activities, the co-owner of the Miss USA pageant raised some eyebrows.

"I've always been a believer in second chances. Tara is a good person. Tara has tried hard. Tara is going to be given a second chance," Trump said on December 19. Conner was allowed to keep her crown but had to go to rehab.

The next day O'Donnell, who was a co-host of "The View" at the time, criticized his decision, saying that she doesn't "enjoy" Trump and said he went bankrupt.
She added that Trump is "not a self-made man" but a "snake-oil salesman on Little House On The Prairie," and she proceeded to slam his multiple marriages: "[He] left the first wife -- had an affair. [He] had kids both times, but he's the moral compass for 20-year-olds in America. Donald, sit and spin, my friend."

Following those comments, Trump fired back at the comedian and told People Magazine that O'Donnell is "a real loser" and "a woman out of control."

"You can't make false statements. Rosie will rue the words she said," referencing her claims that he went bankrupt. "I'll most likely sue her for making those false statements -- and it'll be fun. Rosie's a loser. A real loser. I look forward to taking lots of money from my nice fat little Rosie."

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Now people need to STFU getting upset that he defended against that vile woman.

Furthermore, Rosie also tried to fat-shame President Trump last year and it backfired. Even Her liberal bretheten came after her...lol



Rosie tries fat shaming Trump and it just goes IMPRESSIVELY downhill from there
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/...t-just-goes-impressively-downhill-from-there/
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Finally, thanks Loki for posting the second Megan Kelly Debate video. l forgot how epic it was. Had me laughing my ass off again @ "Just Rosie O'donnell". Hilarious. Trump at his finest. That and, "You'd be in jail" to Hillary. Lolol.