Does Anyone else HATE when Blacks Say You Have Self Hate for Dating IR?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by playboy90210, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    i feel so sorry for people like that who obviously must be so unhappy in their own lives that they feel it necessary to belittle and attack others like that. live and let live i say
     
  2. Senna852

    Senna852 New Member

    this episodes have affected you and your relationship in some way ?
     
  3. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, it is sad, & it baffles me. I'm not bothering them, so they shouldn't be bothering me.

    No they don't. I refuse to let anyone dictate to me who I'm allowed to love & be with. It did bother me more when I was younger, but it didn't stop me from doing what I wanted to do. Now I don't let it phase me. If they have a problem with what or who I'm doing, it's their problem; not mine. I'm going to do what makes me happy, and that's all there is to it.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Tam it ain't fair but unfortunately American culture is very hostile towards men especially bm right now. You may be a good woman but a lot of other shitty women fuck it up for you.
     
  5. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Fam, I know Black chicks, or females who 'identify' as Black, who you wouldn't know were African American unless they told you.

    Maybe mixed chicks aren't in your 'Black female' category, I dunno.
    I LOVE some White women:smt060, truth, but I also know a LOT of down to earth, real, beautiful sistas too.

    I guess I'm more equal-opportunity than some dudes around here 'cause some of yall are like, IR OR DIE!!!!lol
     
  6. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    AMEN BROTHER!!! GO TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN!!!!

    alot of times i say to myself. "wow that's a nice friendly attractive WW but she's american and she surrounded by angry WM and my own race will dump on me if i cross over. oh well too much drama. maybe next time!"
     
  7. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    alot of us suffer from years and years of intense emotional abuse from BW (ex gf's, ex wives, our mothers, sisters, daughters, female bosses, female co-wokers etc.,) that we come her to get information and/or vent about things.

    again this new documentary is a good one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKeLjQrSyls

    but i hear you some sistas are ok. not many though!

    my personal experience is the so called Mixed Black Chick is the worst type of american BW because her EGO is very big.

    and its because she is taught to feel entitled alot of times. Not all but most are.

    mixed african-american women, latino women, indian-american women, native-american,

    but the whole light-brown - high yellow

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    the stacey dashes, mariah carreys, kim kardashinas, salma hayeks, alica keys, the J Lo's give me headaches.

    their egos are too big. and there is so much competiive drama that follows them around, that they aren't worth the time.

    women who look like this now in 2010 give me headaches. they cause me nothing but pain.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  8. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I know how fucked up our society is, but that 'grass is always greener' mentality is not a healthy one. Human nature is fucked up no matter where you go, and it has been since the fall of man back in the garden of eden. Why come on a forum for ww & bm & talk trash about american ww when many of us are american? It's wrong for anyone to bash an entire group of people behind a few assholes...no matter who those assholes are. I could take my own bad experiences with black men & project them onto other black men, but that would make no damn sense because it would be WRONG. A person is an asshole because that person is an assole...his/her race or location is NOT what makes him/her an asshole. I know it's discouraging & disheartening to be beaten down constantly, but the solution to that is not beating others down in return.
     
  9. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    Tam is correct here. i wish more WW thought the way she does. but unfortunately alot of WW fall in 1 of these categories. Not all but alot do.

    1. Taught to fear Black Men and is racist.

    2. Want to date BM but are afraid of what daddy and friends will think (peer pressure) (simply put surrounded by angry wm and other racists)

    3. are open to dating / befriending BM but have TOO high of standards (i.e. he has to have a 6 figure income and looks like will smith)

    4. is an angry feminist who is obnoxious and has a chip on her shoulder - and would give any type man a headache

    5. wants to date / befeind BM only because she is caught up on black myths and hip hop culture only (we're better lovers and well endowed)(we can dance and rap real well)(we supposedly more confident in ourselves)

    6. She is with a BM as an act of rebellion against her friends/family who opress her in some way, thus unfarily involving that BM in the drama (recently i overheard a WM telling his friend "yeah johnny we have some tar babies in the family now!")

    and so for a BM considering race mixing with WW this is the fork in the road he is faced with.


    its a question of which type of drama he is ready to entertain. each type of drama has its consequences. behind door #1 is this type of non-sense. behind door # 2 its that type.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  10. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member


    You wouldn't be here venting, nor would you be dating WW....


    That sucks!

    Amen Chica!


    True, I think majority of the dudes are into all women, only a few date exclusively.




    Wow @ this....SMH


    Tell em Girl!
     
  11. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    The dudes on here, if the locker room is any indication, are not strictly in to white women.

    I like the phenotype/features of women classified as white, if a woman who has these features wishes or has been acculturated to identify as Black, it's not going make me any less attracted to her. Now if a Black man likes the same phenotype, yet chooses not to be with a Black identified women because of her social identification and what goes with it, that's problematic, but he is in many cases doing what these "light skin/mixed" black women do; choosing a lifestyle for ethnopolitical reasons. Many of these women not only identify as Black, they won't date non black and will go even harder against IR. Overcompensating?

    But most Black men who like "white" features do so out of natural attraction, not for social advancement, so the white looking Black women are not going to get turned down by the majority of them. This is also an out and helps soften the blow for Black men who like these features yet do not want to face social backlash; they can have their cake and eat it to. Of course Black women (the majority who don't look white) know this, thus the animosity against many light skin women and thus why many light skin women assert a Black identity, political or otherwise, even stronger. The funny thing is within this dynamic their are Black men so shook they won't even tell many people (even their light skin girlfriend) that they have a preference for light skin.

    The presumption of self hate is so strong in the Black community as to regulate what would be considered natural or physiologically neutral behavior among other people; a Black man can't even say he prefers women of his own ethnic group that have a lighter complexion. Generally, Black people need healing, but to assume we are all equally or similarly damaged is not going to help. In this particular topic, Black men get this presumption of self-hate more than Black women.
     
  12. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Thank you Girl! ;)
     
  13. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    amen! to tell it on the mountain!!

    but its all a headache to dissect all this all the time. it really is!
     
  14. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    This type of commercial about a brotha being harassed by his bitchy BW significant other used to be 'in house' strictly among Black folk.

    Now, that stereotype is mainstream.
    I know a LOT of women like this, on that PMS trip 24/7!!!

    [YOUTUBE]I79Jmgb8nyw[/YOUTUBE]

    BTW, some light skinned sistas have DARK daddies who they love to death!!!
    You just never know where someone is coming from until you make that move.:|

    And let's be real, there is NO country on the planet that's better to be a Black man in than the good ol' U.S. of A.:smt038

    Take that as an endorsement of this country, or an indictment of the rest of the Western World, but it is what it is.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  15. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    can't see the youtube link. its better to just post a link. don't use the yt option it doesn't work

    this is a better example of bw and bm.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I79Jmgb8nyw
     
  16. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    [YOUTUBE]I79Jmgb8nyw[/YOUTUBE]
     
  17. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    That might sound good, but I'm not sure about that, it also sounds like American exceptionalism when some people say it.
     
  18. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    xoxo you must be a historian too. very smart dude.
     
  19. TILLY

    TILLY New Member

    IDK about a headache but these women make my urethra explode and that ain't no joke !
     
  20. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    well atleast you understand the point i'm making.

    i was once like you too. i wanted one of these types of women real bad.

    now my brain cells burn out because of them. to me they are a waste of energy
     

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