Do you believe in karma?

In which ways do you believe you were repayed back in karma? I'm more interested hearing about positive karma... I'm so used to people saying they are afraid of doing x,y,z because "karma is a bitch" but no one speaks about how karma was good to them.

How does karma really work? I've heard that most people got it confused and don't know how karma really works. I don't believe in karma by the way.

 

If you think karma is being PAID BACK, or tit for tat, or retribution, punishment, or "you are gonna get yours"........then no. You don't believe in karma.

Karma is nothing more than "cause and effect," part of the entire life cycle. birth, life, death, rebirth or reincarnation. Karma is not a mother fucker or a bitch. It doesn't "WORK" is just is.

People will swear up and down "oh yeah I believe in karma" with out ever truly understanding that karma is. We willingly embrace ignorance and then swear by it that it works.

 

Karma is just some "new-age" jargon that people adopted into their lives. The fact is, as Ymra put it, "is just is." Every action you take vs. the personal revelation of your way of thinking are independent of one another while at the same time, in sync with the event that unfolded.

 

Yes.

 

Just spoke with him the other day.

 

Nah.

 

so you dont believe in putting out of bad or good works in the universe and it returns...sort of speak. or do you believe you cant talk yourself into helpness.

 

This.

The notion of karma implies that there is an impersonal force in the universe keeping tabs on your behavior. The same reason why I don't believe in Santa Claus or God.

 

Precisely. I believe in cause and effect. But I also believe we frequently mistake correlation for causation.

 

If such things did exists, then surely there wouldn't be poor starving African children drinking their own piss and eating leftovers from the carcasses of lions.

 

Thanks all, the input is much appreciated.

 

yes and no. A person's karma is accumulative, meaning it is the sum total of all of thier actions. Not just "You cheated on me its going to come back to you"

...no, that is no "karma" I agree with BBW....karma as people understand it is nothing more than a buzz word for why bad shit happens to people.

 

I didnt say everything is perfect. you can also look at it this way too. when you treat people like shit and then three years later all hell break loose on you and you are saying to yourself...what the fuck ?

think on sometimes. you may have played the field on your wife and then she finds out you cheated on her...you get a divorce and your ass three years later come down with bankruptcy, the claps, and ect..people usually chalk it up to karma or you readp what you sow type theory.


like now america is going thru a economic crisis...reap what you sow (karma). who the fuck knows. all you can do is do what is right, prepare and plan, make the right and best and timely decisions and hope for the best in the end.

also, to me it seems the africa position kind of gets into the G-d/destiny philosophy. I thought karma was about what you do and say as an individual today to bring about good/bad fortune in the future

 

yep, that too.

 

The points in bold...you went from individual actions collective outcomes (based on so few) and back to individual actions. They are simply actions. No karma involved. Speaking on the examples you've presented:

1. If you're an asshole and treated people like shit all your life, then expect people to shit on you too because of the way you carry yourself. However, that's also dependent on whether the part of the region you've resided that your reputation is known as such. You can be remembered as an asshole and then have a change of heart three years later and be elsewhere because people don't know you as the person you once were. However, you're still going to have people who simply hate your guts because of who you are and what you are.

2. The economic crisis isn't a strong indicator since karma supposedly reflects the individual's actions. The crisis is a collective outcome based on the actions of so few and by that, the people who do what they are supposed to do (especially the economically destitute) will suffer more. You can't call that karma at all. That's just a harsh reality in a society where inequality drives this mess.

And in regards to destiny...that too is hokey dokey jargon. At least in my personal opinion. We create these constructs for the very reason to hold some sentimental value in our existence. Not like it's a bad thing, but it does come off as being disingenuous and mildly pompous. But that's another story.

 

Now, I humbly stand to be corrected by all of my scholarly brothers......but I am of the opinion that ........(Karma ~ what goes around, comes around).........applies to consciously initiating evil deeds on your brotherman acknowledging the risk of retribution.....but then, that argument does not hold water because of the supposedly Good Karma exist too........

 

like warren buffett basically stated "If I was born during the caveman times I wouldnt survived because Im fat , slow and not strong. Because of the timing Im able to thrive because I am able to uuse my other talents"

...that is about destiny. america as a whole reaped what they sowed....tuff

 

there you go rite there. people associate karma with something bad....that is not necessarily so. reap what you sow isnt a bad thing.....It you sow good things then good things can come about. what are you sowing (decisions based philosophy)...

you do dumb shit...dumb shit will happen

 

That's not destiny. That's just the result of laziness and more so...a silly answer on Buffett's part. For one, people of his weight wouldn't exist since the luxuries of today didn't exist. He would be working incredibly hard, just like the other homosexual erecti and homosexual habili and his body mass would be similar to those back in the day. Darwinian evolution applies here as opposed to destiny.