Do blks generally look more favorably upon wm/bw vs. bm/ww?

SardonicGenie · Oct 22, 2005

Life is full of surprises.

flaminghetero · Oct 23, 2005

ladykat said:

A BM relative shows-up with a WW...the females get angry..talk loud..say fucked-up shit OLD & YOUNG ALIKE...rude as fuckin animals....Even if she's good looking they'll say "no dat nigga didn't brang a trashy-ass white bitch dog to OUR family reunion."...or...."Yeah Girl..He coulda' at least had the dignity to leave that whore in the dumspter he found her,long enuff to eat some potato salad...but you know how OUR BM are"..."Yeah Girl..they ain't shit.."
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maybe my man's family is the exception to the rule, but his family has been nothing but sweet as sugar to me (and they are almost all female) since his dad walked out and his mother's siblings are all women (except for 1)... it was that setting almost exactly. summer picnic (which we all know any event calling for food and family means the whole family. LOL) anyway it was my first time meeting any of his family (including his mother) so i was *really nervous* they made me feel so at home. and even mock yelled at me that "next time you come around i don't want to see you sitting there all shy and quiet. you better just jump right up and help yourself. we'll let it go this time because you're new" so the next family event i'm at (it was my 2nd) i still kinda wait my turn in the background and his one aunt comes over to me and says "baby, i told you last time, there will be none of this waiting, help yourself!"

i do love his family.
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Your man's family is DEFINATELY the exception to the rule..

staceybrewer · Oct 24, 2005

Re: You know what else is funny about black women?

jaydun25 said:

You know what else is funny about black women? Many of them tend to feel more comfortable around non-black men than they do black men.

I would have to agree with you on that one. Many black women who are into the nightclub or bar scene are approaching the white men more than they do the black men. The black men are getting tired of the put-downs of black women and are dating the the non-black women more than ever.

If a non-black man says something to them, you can''t get them to shut their mouths. However, they will clam straight up if a brother so much as looks in their direction. I am not afraid to say it man, many black women are racist against black men; and they are just as racist, if not moreso, than white men,and non-black people are.

I wouldn't go as far to say that all black women are racist against black men but it seems like they are racist against the black men who choose white women over them. I don't deal with racists of any color and they definitely wouldn't be my friends in the first place.

Many of them simply don't see anything good about us. And they get shocked when someone else does.

I would have to agree with you on that one, that is why many black women are shocked when white women see something good in black men.

What else is funny is you have all of these black women--ONLINE--who swear up and down that nothing less than a brother will do. I go from site to site, hearing many black women proclaim how much they love a black man. They make it seem as if niggas are disowning them, when it is really the other way around. Many black women are stuck in victim mode. Far too many of them are obsessed with white women too.

I see few if any happy black male/female couples and the ones that are happy really made the relationship work.

However, when you go outside, you sure don't see the love coming from black women. Sometimes I wonder where are all these black women who CLAIM to love black men at out here. Honestly, it can make you a little angry to see women in YOUR race open up faster to men outside of their race to the ones INSIDE of their race. Every other group is the EXACT opposite of us. EVERY OTHER GROUP IS.

It doesn't make me angry to see black women open up to other races of men it may be the way they where raised to believe or something in their family or circle of friends. If black women can open up to other races of men than I can do the same with other races of women.

It makes black men look like fools to everyone else. Everybody and their momma knows that the women in our race hate and look down on us. Because, in every other culture, the women give the men in their race FIRST preference. Only in ours do the women give everybody else BUT us first preference. I am talking in terms of speaking, and everything else, as well as other kinds of social behavior. Black women will speak to everyone else but a black man. Or am I the only one who noticed this?

You are not the only one that has noticed this, that is why the main reason I don't date black women anymore. With black women I always had to impress them with money, nice car, or some bling bling, with a white woman or other race of woman I didn't need all of that for the lady. It seems like other races of women treated me with more respect than black woman ever did. Of course I have met some nice decent black women in church who are Christians but thats about it.

Just tonight after I helped my mother with some drycleaning, I was going back into my apartment, and when I was going up the steps, I saw some Philipino dude with some sister trailing behind him. I guess she was catching a cab. When he saw me, he got a little nervous, and he looked back at the sister whose head was tucked so low into her chin that you couldn't even see her face. I spoke to the guy, but honestly, I was angry. Not angry because he MAY have been with her. Angry because black women will treat men outside of her race with more respect than they do black men. That is what I was angry about.

Many of them go out of their way to treat black men with attitudes, and many of them make me sick. I really wish that I didn't thave to encounter many black women at all. I can't stand the attitudes of many of them; to tell you the truth. Their hypocrisy is nauseating, because they go on and on about not being the standard of beauty, and crying and whining about who black men date.

I really wish the same was said about white women but the same isn't said about them. White women can have just as much attitude as black women do but they tend to show it less than black women do. They should stop complaining about who black men date and starting dating outside of their race if that is the case.

Every site you go to, you hear black women crying about this mess. They are utterly obsessed with it. However, nothing ever gets said about the black women who date non-black men. You never hear about it, and it is a frequent occurrance too man; especially out in the Bay Area. If you are outside long enough, you will see several of these couples. I don't like black woman's attitudes, and I will tell you that point blank.

When I saw that Philipino dude with the sister traling behind him, I felt disrespected. Inside, I was angry. Because, apparently, the braindead sister was his booty call. I don't like the way non-black men parade around with their negresses in front of black men without shame. They have no respect for us. They get mad as hell if their women do that to us, and theirs don't do that, because their women respect them. Most don't, anyway. Ours will do it, and try to hurt us with it. They don't think anything of black men. It seems like black women do everything in their power to help break us down.

That is why she was catching a cab. I have seen various women come out of that Asian dude's apartment. Many sisters surely ain't saints, they are freaking non-black men big time behind closed doors. However, they have the nerve to worry about who black men are dating. I don't like the way they act like they can do whatever they want and still be able to treat black men badly. They can be slutted out by non-black guys, and still think that they have the right to a creme' de' la' cremme brother. However, that same black chick is perfectly okay with being some average non-black man's sex toy.

I think the same goes for white women as well as black women as being their sex toy. Many white women will have a black man as their sex toy or sex machine but when it comes to marriage then that is a different case. I think many white women are less racist than black women are more open to dating outside of their race than many black women are.

They have absolutely NO respect for us; and it shows. When I say that many black women are as racist as white women, I am not kidding. I have seen black women, when they saw me coming, if they are out with their kids, they will try to tuck their kids close and pull them away from me. The irony is, their kids that they are doing that to are full-blooded little black males just like I am. So what are these sisters going to do when other people do that to THEIR SONS? I have seen black women cross the street when they saw me coming, hiding in mailbox etc., to avoid walking past me, frowning when they had to help me in a grocery line, and all types of stuff. However, these same women swear up and down that they love us. I don't know who they are fooling but it sure as hell ain't Jaydun.

I would have to disagree with you on that one. The black women who approach me in the street are very friendly towards me as I do not really project an image of a black man that is a threat to them. Maybe if I was in a different city or state, the reaction may be a little bit different.

It almost makes me sick to read their stupid odes about how they nothing but a black man will do. I bet you half of the black women saying that can't even pull a white man. Because the ones that can, DO. And if they do, they won't ever look in a nigga's direction again. Look at Coral off of the Real World? She dated Abe for goodness sake. Have you ever seen Abe? If you did, you would see what I mean. He is as average as they come. She won't touch a black dude, not even Durell; and he is a handsome guy. This is the only society exist where a handsome man is seen as undesirable solely because the color of skin he is in. Many black will never get a chance to see how they would do in a sysem with equal footing.

I guess the saying that "Once You Go Black You Never Go Back" also applies to black women dating white men. The white men who date black women don't go back to any white women either.

The bottom line: they ain't turning down offers from white men, or any other men from that matter. It simply AIN'T happening. That much I DO know. As much as black women HATE the men in their race, I don't think that they are rejecting white men like they claim. And even if they do CLAIM to love black men, it is always niggas who are off of some soap opera or something. It is never the regular 9-to-5 working black man. The regular nice black men get the shaft on the regular. We are getting the shaft from women, many of whom aren't even that hot, to tell you the truth.

I am a regular nice black man who got tired of getting the shaft from black woman so I started to choose non-black women and I get better treatment and more attention than ever.

You are angry because half of these below par women, have the nerve to have an attitude. And if they are nice-looking, they are just total snobs. It almost makes you sick to be around them, or have to deal with them on any level.

It seems like I have been with pretty white women and average white women and it seems like the pretty ones are the snobs. The average ones have a better personality than the pretty ones. I have never dated any ugly white women though because I can't get turned on by an ugly woman of any race.

Anyway good post man.
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MistressB · Nov 18, 2005

ladykat said:

A BM relative shows-up with a WW...the females get angry..talk loud..say fucked-up shit OLD & YOUNG ALIKE...rude as fuckin animals....Even if she's good looking they'll say "no dat nigga didn't brang a trashy-ass white bitch dog to OUR family reunion."...or...."Yeah Girl..He coulda' at least had the dignity to leave that whore in the dumspter he found her,long enuff to eat some potato salad...but you know how OUR BM are"..."Yeah Girl..they ain't shit.."
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maybe my man's family is the exception to the rule, but his family has been nothing but sweet as sugar to me (and they are almost all female) since his dad walked out and his mother's siblings are all women (except for 1)... it was that setting almost exactly. summer picnic (which we all know any event calling for food and family means the whole family. LOL) anyway it was my first time meeting any of his family (including his mother) so i was *really nervous* they made me feel so at home. and even mock yelled at me that "next time you come around i don't want to see you sitting there all shy and quiet. you better just jump right up and help yourself. we'll let it go this time because you're new" so the next family event i'm at (it was my 2nd) i still kinda wait my turn in the background and his one aunt comes over to me and says "baby, i told you last time, there will be none of this waiting, help yourself!"

i do love his family.
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Nah same here, my man's mother greeted me with a smile, a hug and a kiss (and some Tui which I didn't understand, but that didn't matter); likewise with his sister and his brother, now I am looking forward to meeting the rest of the family on Saturday (although a little nervous!) They have some powerful women in that family as well as men - all high achievers - I don't think they mind what their relative does as long as he's happy, and I hope I make him happy. Certainly not felt any kind of nasty vibe from them.

On the other hand it can be uncomfortable to walk down the street with a bm in terms of other people's responses especially when I kiss my man in public (which I do often!) but hell with them...love matters but not other people's opinions.

tuckerreed · Nov 18, 2005

Welcome mistress! No i dont think his family is the exception, necessarily. there are plenty of families who accept the choice of their family dating or marrying someone of a different color.

I have many interracial couples in my family, even my father's second wife is a different race and we had no problems with it--its is great, now I have 3 new siblings, who are biracial and beautiful

there are always some ignorant people in the world, always will be but there are also go, real people who know that race is a social construct created by people who wished to divide us

MistressB · Nov 18, 2005

tuckerreed said:

Welcome mistress! No i dont think his family is the exception, necessarily. there are plenty of families who accept the choice of their family dating or marrying someone of a different color.

I have many interracial couples in my family, even my father's second wife is a different race and we had no problems with it--its is great, now I have 3 new siblings, who are biracial and beautiful

there are always some ignorant people in the world, always will be but there are also go, real people who know that race is a social construct created by people who wished to divide us
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Hello.

SardonicGenie · Nov 18, 2005

tuckerreed said:

real people who know that race is a social construct created by people who wished to divide us
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:smt043 If only more people would realize this... :smt011

LaydeezmanCris · Nov 22, 2005

tonytony said:

the answer to your thread is just black women and racist white men.
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co-sign with that. That, and so many more reasons, is the reasons i will never date black women again.

jxsilicon9 · Jan 26, 2006

Re: Do blks generally look more favorably upon wm/bw vs. bm/

flaminghetero said:

EA_Ski said:

Someone made the follwong comments on another forum...

Black woman/white male relationships are often viewed with a different set of assumptions [than black man/white woman relationships], which often leads both blacks and whites to look at these relationships more favorably.

Author Lawrence Tezner published a book, which unfortunately is no longer in print, analyzing black and white attitudes about interracial relationships. He found that whites and blacks looked more favorably on black female/white male relationships (for whites especially if the black woman was considered attractive).

In contrast, both whites and blacks were less accepting of black male/white female relationships. Whites were especially intolerant of relationships if they found the white woman attractive, but less intolerant if the found the white woman unattractive.
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I think we'd all agree that whites generally have much more negative attitudes towards bm/ww relaitonships than towards wm/bw ones. And from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense for a group of people to be much more concerned about the reproductive decisions of its women than of its men. However, with blacks, some suggest that the opposite is true--that we tend to have more negative attitudes towards our men marrying out than our women. I'm reminded of a post I read on another IR forum by a European WW married to a black African guy. She said that when she visited his home country (I believe it was Cameroon), she sensed some degree of resentment from his family, particularly female family members. She felt that she was looked upon as a "man stealer," particularly since her husband was a successful businessman. OTOH, she got the impression that the marriage of black women from this country to European men was looked upon very favorably. In fact, she said that such women were looked upon as if they had "won the lottery."

It's possible that her experience was unique: maybe she sensed hostility where there was none; or perhaps she earned their resentment through her own behavior. However, her observations seem to conform to observations that others, including some on this forum, have made regarding attitudes towards IR among blacks.

What do you guys think? Does this mirror your experience?
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Her experience was not unique...if the woman got funky vibes in Africa from the sisters for being with a Brother,while her yt male counterparts are getting waited on hand and foot by those same sisters..It's not her imagination...That's how Black people really are..MATRIARCHAL

We're the ONLY race that would rather our girls date IR than our sons..

Ask the
arabs..whites..mexicans..asians..vulcans..romulans..klingons.. "Would you rather your daughter marry a BM or your son marry a BW.."?

Right down to a man(or woman)..they would rather it be their sons..

Ask a BW that same question...they would rather it be their girls..

The reason?

Non BM are used to running shit..and it pisses them off to lose control over "what's theirs"..They are PATRIARCHAL PEOPLE

BW are used to running shit..and it pisses them off for the exact same reason..We are a MATRIARCJAL PEOPLE..Sisters and WM aren't used to seeing their counterparts at the IR party..

Go to ANY Black family reunion and observe the Matriarchal nature,and IR double standards in real time..(Brothers can attest to this scenario from sea to shining sea):

A BM relative shows-up with a WW...the females get angry..talk loud..say fucked-up shit OLD & YOUNG ALIKE...rude as fuckin animals....Even if she's good looking they'll say "no dat nigga didn't brang a trashy-ass white bitch dog to OUR family reunion."...or...."Yeah Girl..He coulda' at least had the dignity to leave that whore in the dumspter he found her,long enuff to eat some potato salad...but you know how OUR BM are"..."Yeah Girl..they ain't shit.."

Not 5 minutes later:

A BF relative shows up with a WM that looks like she found him in a chicken pen...those SAME proud Black females are all....."Baby....'dey shole' go' have 'dem some purdy chillems.." :lol: :lol:
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Flaming hero you've definitely got the bw attitudes down.

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