Do Black Men Feel They Have To Water Down Their Masculinity To Get Women

Has anyone heard of this black PUA (Pick Up Artist) guy.

His name is Justin Wayne

He teaches men how to be better with women.

Most of his targets are non-black women. I’m not saying that he prefers them as I can’t read his mind, maybe he thinks black women are too street savvy to fall that PUA stuff.

If you watch his videos.

Justin Wayne 1

Justin Wayne 2

The first thing you’ll notice is that he is not handsome BUT he’s not ugly either.

He’s no Tyson Beckkord or Boris Kodjoe. The type of brother that can have little game but get by on their looks or bang women who don’t normally go over to the dark side. He’s a bit overweight. He’s not ripped or tall either. He’s also dressing kinda scruffy and is unshaven and wearing a hat.

So you’d think all that should make it very hard to pull women – COLD - of the street.

Not at all, this guy is a Jedi with women

However when you look at his approaches, I dunno, but I feel that he has had to lose some of his black masculinity to get women. He does give off a slightly nerdy, geeky awkward vibe, very fast talking, no bass on his voice, and deffo no black slang....... rather than a man vibe.

I don’t know if other black men feel they have to tone it down, when they are trying to game women, so as not to scare them because as successful as this Justin Wayne clearly is, I do think he’s had to compromise.

But fair play to him - It takes BALLS OF STEEL for a black man to walk up to any women and try and create a connection, knowing all the crazy thoughts she may well be thinking, but as you can see from these vids he just ploughs through and has results.

 

Back in 1986, I had discovered a dislike for films like romantic comedies that involve a guy who happens to be a nerd, having to change his whole being to win the affections of a girl/woman of his dreams(a film like Can't Buy Me Love was a good example). I don't believe a guy should water down who their identity to get a girl/woman. If he has to do that, it says to me that she really isn't worth it. A PUA, black, white, Latino and et cetera, do not know everything about women. Just the surface and environmental issues around them.

 

LOL, I sat through the first BS video, and had had enough. If you think for one second this is real, dream on. Everyone is out to make a buck on YT, and this is his.

Not only is this talkative creep annoying and simply awful in his game, his friend taping their scenes is quite obvious, especially on the date. They're all in on it.

@ your masculinity question in general... Women love it (I do, when it's measured). Nerds are indeed cute, but they don't have to be nerdy in their approach. Just be respectful. Love quiet confidence in a man. Gives them an air of mystery.

 

These videos are trending and funny all at once....since they seem to be staged. I have to hand it to them though, they know how to put on a show, be it fake or not.

As for the whole masculinity label...it seems a bit archaic since the old world definition doesn't apply anymore. We need to modernize it to make more accurate and reflective of this evolving society.

 

I have to appear less intimidating. For me that typically means to smile more.

 

This is what i have noticed, in the western world men are at a great disadvantage to the point of being emasculated and in the developing world men are given the free reign to be overly macho hence making them obnoxious sometimes

 

I don't believe that BM have to tone down their masculinity for non black women but we have to seem less intimidating like blackbrah mentioned. When I approach women that aren't Black, I never change my personality but i tone down the slang and player mannerisms.

 

A. Those clips are faker than a hydro-gelled ass.

B. Unbridled masculinity is not even close to being a problem for the majority of men on this site.

C. The pick-up artist/macking industry is a fraudulent waste of money.

D. It takes "balls of steel" to approach Jon Jones and ask him for a fight, not a woman.

E. Women are not important. What is important is that you be interesting.

 

A lot of women have the same reaction as yours, because a guy learning game to get women is very unnerving for most females.

Justin is for real. He came to London and I have seen him do it - For Real - with my own eyes

YES - Not every approach worked, but more than enough did. The guy has SOLID GAME and he does not just teach men how to talk to women. He takes it from start to end, break it down to science, because even if you get a womans number (And a lot of guys think that's a big deal) the reality is numbers mean NOTHING. He takes it from turning numbers into meets and and turning meets into sex.

And for a man to do that my dear......... on a consistent basis is a SKILL.

Woman CAN'T tell the difference between a bad approach and a bad guy, they assume they are the same thing.

This is why women get dogged out.

Have you ever heard a woman say "My baby-father is a great guy"
Or
Have you ever heard woman say "All my ex's have been great guys"

Nope. Neither have I. It's not about how nice or kind you are.

Women do not think "I just met this guy. He's so nice and kind....and that really turns me on !!"

I used to suffer from Clark Kent Syndrome (Being too nice) thus when I was coming up I would often get "Lets just be friends" line

Thus the man with poor game get punished by women and the female just goes into auto-rejection and brushes him away with no more hesitation than she would brush away a street beggar.

This is why guys like Justin works, for many people, myself included, because with out it, I'd most likely be virgin to this day. But as far as the title goes, yes I do think black men have to tone it down to extent to get women, that's just the way it is.

 

Could you go to club or bar, meet a woman, you have never met and take her home and have sex with her ?

And do this on consistent basis ? (7/10)

Could walk up to woman on the stret and get her attracted to you in minutes and make out with her ?

And do this say ? (4/10........I'm being generous)

I would say for 95% of men they could not do this.

Now if you are in that 5% then play on playa, but the fact that you are on a website dedicated to meeting women tells me that you are not as successful in meeting women as you make out and face the same challenges in gaming women as most men face (Including me)

 

Funny but I don't recall saying anything personal about myself. A person with better reading comprehension skills would see that I was speaking in generalities.

But I get it Ringo, you join an online forum to advertise your bullshit program for acquiring women. Your problem is that the pick up artist industry has largely run its course in America. There is too many of them and you're just another one of their number.

 

Some people already have a women/man and are here to socialize with others on different levels.

 

+1.

It's just unlikely any guy is going to be successful enough pulling women cold on the street to actually film it.

All kinds of guys get rejected by woman at the wrong time for different reasons.

Maybe she's in a relationship, or not in the mood to meet someone, or going through some personal stress at work, etc.

It doesn't mean someone's game is weak.

I still say you gotta know and recognize your type. If you only speak English and you always try to pickup Chinese women who only speak Cantonese, you will bat 0 for 1000.

If you know your type and your confidence is up, it doesn't feel like work trying to chat up a woman cold.

I still think most women who get randomly approached ON THE STREET feel like it's weird.

You'd have better luck in almost any other setting than on the street.

 

I agree with everything you said man. Women do feel strange when a random guy approaches them on the street but that shouldn't stop a man from getting at women. Usually when I go up to random women on the street, I'll stop them and ask them where a certain street is and I'll start a conversation from there. Just on Friday, I went up to a girl like this and she actually pulled out the GPS on her phone. LOL

 

I don't do the masculinity thing to get to know a woman. It's usually on a personality basis or a meeting of the minds. I'm not exactly He-Man lol.

 

I don't care much about masculinity, but about self-confindence and dominance. I like men that assume they know what I want and go for it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really submissive, but I die for a man that trully dominates me in every aspect.

 

All I ask for is kindness, honesty and confidence. Black men don't have to express how macho, masculine etc to me.

 

Sometimes its helps a man if you give him hints cus we are not rocket scientists to assume to know what women want just at a drop of a hat

 

That what I believe, also. I cannot read a woman's mind. Sure I might pick up on eye contact, fingers in the hair or how close she is standing by me. That's all. I don't know what she wants to drink. I don't know what a woman wants to talk about. I don't know what a woman wants to do. Please, ladies. Please make it clear.