I've seen this circulating on a couple websites such as sohh.com. I guess stereotypes & myths is the best place to post this on. Do you think these opinions have some truths to it or is pure bs?: Warning: These are just MY opinions. I like to observe every group of of every race and gender....basically, I just like to people watch. What I've noticed concerning black men is that they come in specific categories. I hate to group people but this sincerely is only what I have been seeing when out in public, school, other miscellaneous social settings, through experiences of mine and the things my girlfriends tell me ALL THE TIME. These categories are (and these are only my opinions so forgive me): 1) The homeless, strung out on crack or any other series of addictive narcotics and or substances (alcohol) type: Usually this type will come up to me, do a little jig with his change cup (or hit on me) and on one occasion while I'm sitting at the food court at the mall with my friend says "Hey, my beautifu Nubian queen. Let me sing you a song..." He goes off into a 15 second serenade and tables full of frightened looking white people look our way (not that I really care.) After I have given him a dollar, he taps my friend and says "You know why I love her? 'Cause she's got eboooonyyyyy eyyyyyyyyyyyes!" LOL, one of my funniest moments while out in public. 2) The infamous thug (angry anti-social type): These types pop up occasionally around my way and other various places that I go to. Usually this type of man seems to have never seen fitted clothing in his life. Dress shirts? Don't mention it. Nice ties? Not a chance. Baggy jeans, loose dress like shirts, every color pair of Nikes, and about sixty million fitted NY or Red Sox baseball caps is his dress code---this can also be because his style of dress represents that he wants no part of mainstream white society (only hip hop. nothing too bad about that at all but it's the action of this type that is and most happen to be dressed this way.) Most likely this type has not mastered the English language quite yet and among his limited vocabulary, "nigga" and other various explitives seem to always be at the tip of his tongue. Usually this type grew up in a poor, delapitated inner-city neigborhood or any sort of low income area (like me) and has had no father figure growing up so he chooses to misdirect his anger/aggression and his confusion on how to be a real man at unsuspecting victims (women, his girlfriends, people who look at him "the wrong way", other black men who step on his fresh pair of Nikes, etc.) Also, this type is known to clear crowded sidewalks of frightened white/other people by his intimidating presence---although black men can have the uncanny ability of clearing sidewalks, this type is better at it. Dealing/using drugs in school/work, getting arrested and locked up multiple times for violent or drug related offenses is also commonplace with this type. Among the women who are attracted to this type of man are: hoodrats, chicken heads, project chicks, ghetto girls,<<<< (mostly the same thing but different names), white girls who think dating this type will make them more black, and a lot of the time good girls who like bad boys. More than likely, these women encourage this type of man to continue on with his anti-social behavior because they find it oh so appealing. They reward this type by throwing their legs open, inviting him in, and 9 months later delivering the seed that he will most likely want no part of thus creating another confused child who will grow up angry and bitter at the world. Thanks a lot, mom! Do not mistake this type for the honest man who will take care of the child he creates out of wedlock. Moving on. Knowing this is what the ladies like and what he's known all his life whether this type has developed this behavior from imitating male family members/friends, the area he's grown up in, or the lack of a father figure, he has no intention of changing his "thug" behavior. This type will also say he hates "crackas" and blames them for all of his problems while he sits on his ass and does nothing (by not getting an education, getting a job, bettering himself,etc.) or better yet, kill/fight the very people he says that the "crackas" are against---black men like himself. I know, I know, a lot of the problems in the black community were started by whites but this type of man isn't any better for continuing to sustain these conditions and so aren't the women for encouraging them. 3) The thug wannabe: This type makes up about 60% of the thug persuasion population (because most thugs are fake thugs. LOL!) Like Type 2, this type dresses in baggy clothes and other hip hop gear, primarily talks in slang, but fronts as though he is hard like Type 2 but when confronted by danger, this type will usually be the first to run off like a little biatch or use phrases such as "nah, dawg...this aint even worth it. I'ont even wanna fight nobody." This type only wants to give off the thug impression for street cred or to get some ass from the gullible women who fall for this poser. Sometimes, this type has never even lived or been in the "hood." His name is Matthew Samuel Richardson III and he has been raised on the mean steets of various white bread suburbs where stray cats and loose dogs make neighborhoods hold their breaths in fear. "Hello, 911. How may I assist you?" "Yes, I would like to report something. It seems as if a couple of loose dogs are on my street....................and they're going through my trash!" "Stay calm, ma'am. Just stay indoors and make sure that you have absolutely no contact with them! Help is on its way." --- "911 dispatcher. It seems we have a 6-5-7 in progess." Cop: "I'm on it!" 4) The Dreamy, all that I ever wanted in a man:smart, handsome, faithful, occupied, and/or educated type: Too bad he wants nothing to do with women who have large amounts of melanin in their skin---or anybody with huge amounts of it for that matter. Yup you got it, black people. Although nothing is wrong with IR romance, I find it funny that a lot are in these relationships---more than the other types! Most likely this type of man has had too much exposure to white people/culture whether it be in everday life or through a television screen and as this type grows into a man, he later finds out that he cannot stand to be associated with those "other negroes." You see, this type is a newer and improved negro---he defies all of the stereotypes of black men being criminals and raging lunatics. Most likely this type has an education, a job, a sweet and soft personality, everything going for him (not that something's wrong with that) but if you don't mind, this type would like to let the whole world know that he is different from the rest please. This type finds little to nothing in the black culture (including its women) appealing because you must've lost your mind if you think a new and improved negro wants to be associated with anything that is black and sends a message out to whites/others that he is "one of them." Self-hate issues are a bitch. Don't confuse this type with the type of man who wants nothing to do with black women based on his past experiences...that's a whole other story---I think. 5) The Player type: This type is a regular, functional male. Although any type of man can play women, this type devotes his whole waking moments to the game. This type usually obsesses over his appearance like a woman would (sometimes this type can be found with his shirt half-buttoned, chest showing like he's Puerto-Rican or just straight up tight ass muscle shirts with his nipples popping though them Okay, I'm just playing.) Most likely he gives off a smooth, debonair air---tee hee, that rhymed. The ladies love his urbane style and more than likely, this type has more than one woman....let's say, uh, 62. LOL, but seriously, one woman is just not enough for this type of man. He'll spend all of his precious time splitting up his time between all of these women. When he is done playing them, he'll throw them out like yesterday's paper and become a complete a-hole to them---a side of his personality he doesn't make known to the women he's pursuing---then he'll find some new women to play with. This type may also be a momma's boy but too bad his momma doesn't know that her sweet little son is a nasty hoe and several screws away from contracting herpes or giving her 2 to 3 grandbabies in the same month. At least the thug type's mom knows that he isn't headed for the right path anyway. 6) Gay type: 'Nuff said. But boy can dress his ass off! Okay, g'on wit yo' bad self then....but will you be my shopping buddy? Pretty please? 7) The color struck type: This type cannot get over the fact that some women happen to have dark skin and/or coarse hair ( the funny thing is he has it himself!) He has to let everyone know his preference by saying "Ugh. She all dark and shit" to his boys. Light skin and long flowing hair from either black,white, or Spanish women is his kind of thing. I don't mind if that's his preference but if I hear one more insulting comment come out of his mouth like the one above or "You're pretty for a dark-skinned girl" I will be forced to slap the sh*t out of this type. <<<< my passive aggressive psychotic face (just add the twitching left eye). A lot of the time, as much as I wish this wasn't the case, they have been brainwashed by music videos and t.v. I find this out because they let it be known in the end without me even asking. And I'd feel really bad if I had to slap someone who's been brainwashed. It just wouldn't feel right. smh. 8) Pops type: This type's a great guy and gives great life lessons and advice but he's nearing 50 or 60 and has 7 grandchildren. 'Nuff said. 9) The non number 1, 2, 3, 5, 6,7, 8 type: This type is nothing like types 1 to 3, 5 to 8 and although he has some characteristics of Type 4 (handsome, occupied, faithful, smart, sweet, and/or educated) he does associate himself with black people and does find interest in black women and culture (the non destructive aspects),and he's also conscious of black issues. No offense but this specific combination is the most rare of them all and when I meet one, I smile.
They are without question Stereotypes and on the surface you would think they were all true if you did not think too hard about it. Like all myths - The more you think, the less likely you are to fall of it however. If you toss up 9 or 10 "types" I'm sure you'll cover most of any group. I did not see my group in there.... Why is that, I wonder???? Anyway, again black men are looked at, talked about and all but allowed to be free. My question is: Why can other people come and go as they please, but it's a problem when black men can't be controlled. Two cents from a free black man.
There are some types I can't help but agree with. Can you elaborate on what you're trying to say about being "free."
more types I think if you remove the word "black" from any of these types you described men in general. And you can add type 11- black is my crusade type. And type 12- proud of who he is (including proud of his heritage) and SECURE enough to date anyone he damn pleases.
Re: more types Oh so the complexion issue is strong in the white community also? No, the author made this list especially for black men. p.s. I didn't make the list so I can't add anything.
My type is employed middle class black guy who knows and cares about the state of black men in America. I'm educated and drug free and I've never been “down low” or in jail or gay. I don't beat women or live off of them either. I don't have a woman in every city or cheat because I think I'm a “guy” so it's my duty to have as many women as possible to measure my “manhood” and value. I also like white women but I don't hate black women and I will date black women too. Where do I fit on the list?? Free - To make my own choices in life no matter how many people either don't understand or hate me because of it. Hey. If people want to lay the “fall” of black men at my feet because I like white women as well as others, so be it. But here's the thing, I will never be “shamed” into living my life according people who don't know me. The people I love can't shame me..... What chance will others have???
I don't think she was making the list to shame anyone, just her observations and I can see where she is coming from with her list. Where do you fit on the list? Well if you're going by what the list says, Type 9 of course.
Re: more types I agree. Another one she can add is that BM don't have the stomach to collude with funeral directors to strip corpses of useful body parts and replace the bones with plumbing pipes...then dispose of the work gloves and soiled aprons by closing them up in the bodies.
Somehow I doubt that the author would see me as a 9. For some reason I think the author would have problems with me because I like white women. I don't believe she would be forthcoming in her dislikes but I see her as a classic passive aggressive person who would look at people as types and not as individuals. Back in 80's when we had Reagan in office, a large number of people in mental institutions got turned out because of governmental budget cuts. Many people without money or families in position to to take care of them, found themselves in the streets -Homeless. There is a myth that all homeless people are lazy crack addicts who like taking peoples money. Funny thing about myths – When you don't think, they seem so true.
Well you said you didn't mind dating black women also but if you really just like white women only then I guess I'm not sure what the author would think of you.
I'm not asking you to tell me what someone else thinks. I'm telling you what I feel the author would do. And it is because I said I would date SOME black women but I like white women too however it has turned into "but if you really just like white women then"... I am more than certain that the "author" would jump to that same assumption because she can't stand the fact that a "9" would choose someone white over her so there has to be something wrong with him... Right? "He must not be a 9... He must not like sisters..." I'm sure that by focusing her attention on how I must not be a 9 would ease that fact that someone who could have liked her, dated someone else. Sure there could be a myriad of reasons why I date who I date but that would mean that I was free to make my own choices in "my" life and that little fact would never ease her mind. So in the end she would have to conclude that "he must not like black women, although he said he did." This conclusion would make her feel much better about herself because the problem would be me and not her. I see it all the time.
Re: more types This thread here is just TOO fascinating, and after reading through that list of all of our *cough, sniff* types, me thinks that just like many people around the globe, this chick who made it seems to get some sort of high or rush off of hating and fearing black men for the sake of doing so. Oh, say it ain't so, Daphne! :wink: Oooookay...
Re: more types This story was in the news a few months ago. I get the feeling whites really don't expect blacks to assess their deeds or form opinions about them. No group is perfect.
You wrote: 4) The Dreamy, all that I ever wanted in a man:smart, handsome, faithful, occupied, and/or educated type: Too bad he wants nothing to do with women who have large amounts of melanin in their skin---or anybody with huge amounts of it for that matter. Yup you got it, black people. Although nothing is wrong with IR romance, I find it funny that a lot are in these relationships---more than the other types! Most likely this type of man has had too much exposure to white people/culture whether it be in everday life or through a television screen and as this type grows into a man, he later finds out that he cannot stand to be associated with those "other negroes." You see, this type is a newer and improved negro---he defies all of the stereotypes of black men being criminals and raging lunatics. Most likely this type has an education, a job, a sweet and soft personality, everything going for him (not that something's wrong with that) but if you don't mind, this type would like to let the whole world know that he is different from the rest please. This type finds little to nothing in the black culture (including its women) appealing because you must've lost your mind if you think a new and improved negro wants to be associated with anything that is black and sends a message out to whites/others that he is "one of them." Self-hate issues are a bitch. Don't confuse this type with the type of man who wants nothing to do with black women based on his past experiences...that's a whole other story---I think. Let me translate and condense: Smart, well spoken, educated, intelligent black man, who, because he's all these things, has women of every color interested, takes advantage of that like any man would. because he does that, to you, he's a "house nigger". This type of man, mainly because these very same qualities make him the object of scorn and ridicule in the black community, because black people generally don't find black men with these qualities acceptable or "black" because of THEIR self-hatred issues, ends up dating white women or hispanic women, etc because they don't attack him for these qualities, they actually appreciate them. If you need a mirror to look into, let me know, I have an extra
AWESOME POST.. We must be doing something right..or else people wouldn't care what we do or whom with.. Like the old saying goes: "Nobody spears a dead fish"
I have to chuckle at almost every thread in this "Stereotypes and Myths" portion of this forum. Certainly generalizations exist about people based on their gender, race, religion and politics... but when it comes down to the individual, it all goes out the window. A black man can be anything... he can be brilliant, he can be dumb as a post... he can be fit, he can be fat... he can be charming, he can be crass... same applies to a white woman... or a gay asian... To narrow "types" of black men down to a few categories is simplistic and adds nothing worthwhile to any constructive dialogue. I guarantee you no one here likes to be labelled based on simplistic criteria... because it's wrong 99% of the time.