Difference in dating Black american men and other black men?

I guess what I mean is that...African men aren't as bashful when it comes to acknowledging their attraction to WW. An African man will go up to the most beautiful WW in a room and start chatting her up whereas most AA men will take a more conservative approach....at least that's what I've seen.

 

This is going to start an argument that no one can win....why do blacks and Africans get the short end of the stick......because we're too divisive.

 

Lets just say the main diff between african and african american men is that Africans are simply, by and large much harder workers than their fellow AA brothers. But in the dating scene i think AA men would be more successful in FUCKING women, however when it comes to marriage- or long term commitment african men got them BEAT.

just my 0.02 dollars

 

LMAO...africans ARE black......inn case you didnt notice

 

Well, as a Nigerian (American) who has lived in several regions of the globe, I would say African men have a lot of success dating, marrying, sleeping with, messing with etc. women in general.

In contrast to the post about African men being so quick to confess their love, I would argue that the more common problem is "getting one to commit to you". This arises from one fact, unlike AA men who hold WW as the standard of beauty and womanhood, many African man only put the African woman on a pedal stone. In other words, a lot of African male will experiment with white women, but when it comes down to it, most only desire an African woman as their lifelong mate. Apparently not all are like this, but this happens quite a bit.

 

That's true also - and I both love and hate generalisations...I guess the point I was trying to make is that people who have been brought up in more or less the same culture but different races would have more in common than people of the same race, but different cultures.

Anyway, each situation is unique. This is just my experience and observation.

 

Thank you for the observation.....i'm trying to distinguish between black (as in having ancestors who apart of the African diaspora....whose families have been in the "New World" since at least the 1800's) and black...as in having parents/grandparents that have immigrated from Africa....ancestors that weren't slaves in the west.......to keep down confusion....Black =Black American, Jamaican, Canadian, Cuban..etc....and African = Nigerian, Senegalese, Ghanaian etc.

 

Wouldn't it be more natural to talk about African-Americans and Africans... instead of Blacks and Africans. Cause I think you're one of very few people who don't consider Africans to be black...

Also, I wonder how long a family of African immigrants have to live in US, before they stop being African in your opinion?

 

Seriously, some of you are getting too worked up over minor issues. Just my opinion.

 

Black is black....but in a situtation where I need to become more specific...I will use the terms black and African.....I don't know many Africans that call themselves black....they usually refer to themselves by their ethnic group or nation of origin...i.e, Nigerian-American etc.....but since some of the people here think I am a xenophobe....I will refer to all U.S. citizens as North Americans

 

I don't know many Europeans who call themself white either.

People in general actually do say ethnic group/nationality rather than skin colour. Europeans will say that we're Sweedish, English, German or whatever. That doesn't mean we don't consider ourself to be white though.

My BF will always introduce himself as a Cameroonian (like you'd probably say you're American if you were abroad), he still consider his colour to be black though.

Sorry, but to me your original definition makes close to no sense at all. Colour is colour. Nationality is nationality. They're two very different things.

 

I think when ChoseOne speaks of "black", it is an American thing. Most here in the US say black instead of African American. Unless I missed something, everyone who said something to him about using black and africans was not from the US. Most of us here understand what he is saying. It is our cultural lingo.

 

Thank you fly girl....my definition might not make sense....but as fly girl said...that's the way the culture works in the U.S.....before the large scale immigration of Africans to the U.S.....it was confusing issue for blacks as to how we should refer to ourselves...be it on official documents....or just in casual conversation....Negro, colored, Afro-American, African-American, black, black-American........

 

OK, ty...

But that still leads me back to one of my original questions. ChosenOnes consider people who are ancestors of immigrants for African, and not "black" (or as I would say, African-American). They're still African even if it's their grandparents who immigrated. So when do people get "promoted" from Africans to black/African-Americans? How many generations? Remember many of the so called "Africans" who are living in the US, have never even been in Africa, and are US-citizens. They face exactly the same difficulties as the rest of the AA-population. So why are they not considered "black"?

 

Don't forget Race-American. During the early part of the 20th Century some Black-Americans call themselves Race-Americans.

 

What makes you think an African would think it is a "promotion" to be called African American or vice versa. The difference between African and African American is one of culture (amongst many other things I won't get into). African Americans are Americans (which makes me wonder why the African prefix is necessary). Now as you probably know, Africans have totally different culture. Lots of Africans speak different languages, eat different types of food, enjoy different forms of entertainment, see themselves differently, find different things important etc. While many Africans abroad (meaning out of the mother land) face issues that are similar to AA, there are many problems that are uniquely African.

Though I was born American, I see myself as African first and American later. I just feel more African than American. I like the US (and North America), but I LOVE the continent of Africa. I speak her languages with more passion, enjoy her warmth with more intensity, feel her pain (from the very bottom of my soul), and most importantly can truly call her my own. I can't say that for anywhere else.

 

I don't at all consider it a promotion myself, that's why I used the "" around it...

I used the word "promotion" because a lot of people (no matter where they're from) will consider themself "better" than immigrants- Wich means that being acepted as one of them is a sort of "promotion" in their eyes. According to chosen one you're not American, or African-American (you're not even black), and you never will be. You'll be an African no matter you like it or not. So will your children and your grandchildren. Cause your family didn't come to the US during the trans-atlantic slavetrade...

I stongly disagree with anyone who say the children/grandchildren/great grandchildren etc of immigrants are also immigrants, and call them by the nationality of their ancestors. If you feel that you're African more than American, fine by me. But stuff like what chosenone is saying, is what leads to conflicts like the one we saw in France last year. People who had lived in France for generation after generation, were sick of being seen as something else but French.

P.S. I've been in Africa on several occations. If you knew me, you'd know that Africa holds a very special place in my heart

 

On the contrary, it seems to me that many more Americans have a problem with the term 'black' than Africans.
As we know in America a movement against the use of 'black' in favour of African-American and other terms. There has never been any such movement to my knowledge in Africa - at least not of any significance.

 

Black isn't anyone's cultural lingo, it's a universal term.
Most people in the US may say black instead of African-American, but that doesn't explain not using black for Africans as well.

 

It is mine and it is many other people in the US. Sorry, but you dont get to tell me what my culture is. I grew up with the changing cultural lingo. And today, most say black when referng to american of african descent.

I havent read anyone saying africans arent black, but in OUR culture, when we refer to them we usually say africans as a way of differentiating between black americans.