Did you realize that a lot of the ww that date bm are Europeans?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Avia, Jul 16, 2011.

  1. GQ Brotha

    GQ Brotha New Member

    Well Africa is a pretty big place, so naturally they would take offense. Just like you or I would if someone pegged us as some lowlife, drug slinging, jailbird from the ghetto, with no sense of self improvement as a man.

    LOL, this is why labels and stereotypes are so foolish in the end.

    I went to school with Africans and African-Americans and were friends with them all and some were cool and some were shitty to be around, but it had nothing to do with whether they were African or African-American but rather their own personal conducts and values.

    Some of the coolest kids on my college campus were Africans from the motherland, they seemed to be in touch with their respective cultures, proudly displayed it and were very smart and worldly about global issues.

    In every grouping of people you will find undesirables in their conduct, don't care if you are black/white/Asian or whatever, that is the nature of what it is to be human.
     
  2. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    You must spread some reputation around before giving it to GQBrotha again.

    You're right. Every ethnic group has a criminal element or a structural underclass, otherwise there would only be crime where African-Americans are. It's funny, but in many African countries Nigerians are pegged as the criminal class, not African-Americans. It all depends on circumstances and conditions that people find themselves in.
     
  3. GQ Brotha

    GQ Brotha New Member

    Exactly, if you go to Eastern Europe (you have the human trafficking rings and the Russian mafia), Italy (the mafia in Naples and Sicily), China deals with the worst of the worst by just executing them with a bullet to the back of the head by firing squad, no questions asked, in Brazil you have the drug gangs that run the favelas as fortified operations where police enter as though they are going to war and at their own risk and don't let's get started on the drug cartels in Mexico that cut off heads, hands, murder public officials and has turned Northern Mexico into a war-zone.

    If you look within every culture and society you will encounter the undertow of criminality among some folks, doesn't matter where you are globally.
     
  4. ILOVEAFRICAMEN

    ILOVEAFRICAMEN New Member

    To be very honest with you. Most white-American women in general hear the stereotypes about black men. The stereotypes they hear are that the average African-American man is a thug, multiple baby mamas, criminal record, etc..

    I was reading an article awhile back about a particular University in California that surveyed Caucasian women on who their marital preference were. Most prefer to marry a Hispanic man over a Caucasian, and not many considered African-American men to be husband material. That is why there is still hang ups in the US when it comes to interracial dating. The ones that want to get married, would not consider interracial dating. The ones that are not hung up on getting married are more likely to consider a black partner in the US. It is due to the stereotypes that are often heard. I also have been told the exact same thing from other African men that are residing here in the United States. I am saying that the stereotypes for black men that most white-American women hear is that of African-Americans.

    The other day I was searching on this interracial dating website to see what womans preferences were. It showed a woman that was born in Germany, residing in the United States, checking African men only for marriage. She was residing in NYC. On this particular website, it had a choice when it came to black men. The choices were Afro-Carribean, African-American, and African. She chose African.
     
  5. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    Umm can i know the name of the site please?:cool:
     
  6. Avia

    Avia New Member

    Well, If you would actually read my posts you would know that this is not my opinion but there are people that think that way. I think I have made my point very clear that this is not what I think. I think we are all the same, maybe you want to read it again :smt102
     
  7. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    So why would it be necessary to be echoing the crap people say if i may ask?:smt102:cool:
     
  8. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    c'mon bruh. calm down. i think we are all on the same page here.

    GQ brotha said it right. africa is a big place and stereotypes suck. but sometimes people are only around people that reinforce those stereotypes.

    avia is just keeping it real based on what she sees in austria as far as africans go. sure it may be a limited view or maybe its a correct view. but she is just being honest.

    you cannot get offended if she see says that her and other austrians encounter people from deep africa and she says they don't understand "no."

    its about similarities in culture. similarities make it easier to emotionally connect with others.

    a friend of mine who lived in France who is african-american told me himself "hey man as long as you aren't a poor african - you can really score with the ladies here in france they love african-americans"

    now if you were standing there in the room and heard this comment, you would probably get mad and rant. right? but my friend was being brutally honest with me becuase his own wife is from cameroon and he has lived there from 10 years.

    it is not anybodys fault that africa has a negative association to it. blame it on history.

    again. i know alot of folks from africa they set me straight on alot of things who defy the stereotypes and probably get as offended as you are now. but i think at the end of the day we are all on the same page here.

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    another friend of mine was in st.petersburg, russia. He told me when he was at the night clubs there were african dudes there getting big love from the hot russian ladies there. he said the same things about iceland and other parts of scandanavia as well as Norway.

    so this is not about bashing africans and saying that african-american is better. However, like GQ brotha has said. there are undesirables in all cultures.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2011
  9. MissWacy

    MissWacy New Member

    lol exactly
     
  10. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    good point. that is true too.
     
  11. Avia

    Avia New Member

    as i said before, many people are small minded and are not open enough to see the whole picture. someone asked about the situation in my country and surrounding countries and i let them know. is it fair? no. but this is not about me and my opinion. i feel rather sorry that people are not open enough to invest time to get to know different people. as i said before, they respect any africans/african americans that are very western oriented. why? because many people are too scared to get to know something "different", something they did not grew up with, something that they might even not understand. that is a scary thought for some people. so please don´t get offended, the west is so used to their own style of living that they are more open to people that are "like them".

    i am honest.

    i also told my boyfriend, a bm who is about to move here that there is a group called "neo nazis" and they can be dangerous or try to start a fight but having a best friend for 12 years- a bw (actually white and black but neo nazis don´t think that far), we have only had 2 situations when people reacted unexpected but it wasn´t dangerous. the living situation in general will be better for him here as in the united states.
     
  12. z

    z Well-Known Member

    "I don't date Africans"
    "I don't date African Americans"
    "I only date Jamaicans"
    "I don't like Euro blacks"
    "You're too light"
    "You're too dark"
    "Are you mix? I am only into dark west Africans"
    "Are you Puerto rican blk, I am not into them"
    "Are you blk Egyptian Muslim, I am not into them"
    "Are you Brazillian black, they party too much, I am not into them"
    "You're too tall"
    "You're too pretty"
    "You're too meterosexual"
    "You're well spoken, I don't like Bryant Gumble"
    "You're too hip for my taste"
    "You look like a Rico Suave"

    etc, etc.....

    All these stereotypes, lol

    Just get MONEY, the great equalizer, then no one will care if you're a slicky ricky from Californian Valley, the hood rat hustler from Cabrney green of Chicago, the thick accented Jamaican immigrant at Flat Bush Avenue of Brooklyn or the Jungle bunny straight out of the war torn Mogadishu. The $$$$ green will get you treated as equal.
     
  13. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    Good points. don't let criticisim get under your skin. its all good.

    wow. your bf is moving over there to be with you. how nice. what line of work does he do that allows him to move? that is kinda what i want to do myself. is he trying to learn german?
     
  14. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    this is somewhat true. money alot of times can turn a bald spot into a part.
     
  15. Leksola

    Leksola New Member

    Haha ha. Yeah.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member


    Get this man a prize. He gets it
     
  17. Avia

    Avia New Member

    We are both really young. (22)
    He can study online for a couple of years, there is also the opportunity to go to school here. He only knows a little but will go to german class 2-3 a week to get to know the language really quick. He will have a typical student job here, no german necessary. He can upgrade once he is good enough in german to do another job. we will be fine, my family got me an apartment when i was little and therefor there are only utilities to pay for. i am working as well and go to school here. we don´t know for how long we will stay here, we might end up going back to the states, we will see how everything turns out. we don´t want to make plans because life is full of surprises.
     
  18. Avia

    Avia New Member

    We are both really young. (22)
    He can study online for a couple of years, there is also the opportunity to go to school here. He only knows a little but will go to german class 2-3 a week to get to know the language really quick. He will have a typical student job here, no german necessary. He can upgrade once he is good enough in german to do another job. we will be fine, my family got me an apartment when i was little and therefor there are only utilities to pay for. i am working as well and go to school here. we don´t know for how long we will stay here, we might end up going back to the states, we will see how everything turns out. we don´t want to make plans, the future is full of surprises.
     
  19. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    well, i think that's very nice. when i was a teenager (im 28 now) my father took my brother and myself to a nice resort in the dominican republic. and my father met a man from Austria and he told this man that my brother and i would be going to business school. At that point this man wanted to introduce my brother and myself to his austrian daughters.

    for whatever reason, my father didn't introduce us. Looking back on it, my father had alot of opportunities to expose his sons to Europe in positive ways. Because there is a international presence here in D.C. But he didn't do it. It would have made a real difference for me. i could have been a foreign exchange student or did a summer thing. Somethign positive.

    anything to get away from the teenage beyonce's and J.Lo's and Kim Kardashins i went to high school with. but that's not what happened.

    its just like the example i gave with my friend and his son who was living in france and now the States. In france people really really liked him and cared about him. Now his son is in North America and he is taking a emotional beating socially from other black children and white children too. Its sad and alot of young african-americans (male & female) develop a negative self-image because they may feel like they aren't talented enough, pretty enough, rich enough, or smart enough etc.,

    i'm back in school after a 4 year break. and one thing i notice is with my study partners, tutors and peers. the nice people who are friendly are usually unnatractive-ugly people or average looking like myself. A beautiful person, or a person who has money and talent is usually a serious ASS. They have an ego. they're booshie. its a consistent thing on the campus.

    even a foreign exchange student from china i met on campus, noticed that the students are howard university (especially the business school) are competitive with each other and don't work together.


    but we see this list of things. this is how it goes on here in the U.S.A. - everybody competes with each other and tries to fit into their little race, class, group.

    In all honesty, had my father exposed me the austrian girls that could have been the start of my exposure to having positive european white women who appreciate me fro who i am. but my father felt the need to exposure his sons to upscale booshie african-american world. the type of stuff we see in tyler perry films, i have lived some of that.

    see these clips and trailers here. this is what i get exposed to and hide from.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxjqvBhBWk

    http://www.bet.com/video/toya/season-1/toya-this-season-on-a-family-affair.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fap0PL2BeFw



    so i say that to say. i hope and pray that your man really shows his appreciation, he is getting to have positive experience and getting female affection while he's young. i was denied that because i wasn't a teenage will smith.

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    http://vimeo.com/15376841
    I'm working hard in the gym and going school here in washington dc, but my youth is mostly over and i have to look foward now. i consider myself a late bloomer.

    i have alot of ideas of how to expose myself to different things. its actually not that hard but it costs money they i don't have at the moment.

    germany, russia, ukraine and scandanavia really intrigue me. i think i will be happy once i am able to set myself up.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2011
  20. ANANSI12

    ANANSI12 Member

    It's true. From my experience speaking to European and Australian women. The appreciation or attraction to black men is much widely accepted...or open I guess.


    ps. I freaking love european women
     

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