WOW!! Good for them, and an IR couple too, I think that's cool. My sister and brother-in-law did that, and they've been married now for 18 years. She tells me it was really special because they planned it out like that. I do think it would take a lot of commitment though. Considering these 2 are Abstinence teachers, I think they had a high standard to live up to. I wish them all the luck.
But why.. can you please pinpoint the place in the bible where it says "no kissing please"? Good for them if they wanted to do it, but I really can't understand why?
Funny , even mormons do kiss before marriage. May be we should read the whole bible to make sure of that. But remember kissing can turn both of you on and lead you to sex.
I respect their choice, but I don't understand it. Sexuality is something very important in a couple's life. Sometimes even if u have feelings for a person, even deep feelings, bad sex can mess everything up. U can teach how to kiss, u can teach how to have good sex sometimes, but u may not have a good feeling together anyways. So I would never merry someone without try. I wish the best to all the ppl who make that choice, but I prefer to try and be sure that there is sexual feeling between me and him.
Totally agree with this one... I'm a Christian and I think this just sounds like a load of crap. And, furthermore...doesn't it say something about their will power (or lack thereof) if they feel as though lying on the same couch or kissing or anything will somehow end up with them breaking their vow of abstinance. Where do you draw the line? Trust me, I'm all for abstinance - and commend people who choose it...but, these guys are just taking it too far. Surely the indication of a solid faith is to be TESTED and prove yourself true to your beliefs...Not to avoid all testing altogether out of fear of failure. What does that prove? I mean, to each their own...but, I personally think that's stupid and, as a Christian, I find it embarassing that those people are representing my faith.
Don't be surprised. It's all a matter of culture. In this case, this particular segment of Christian culture. If you were raised a certain way, that's what's normal to you.
Well that all very sweet, BUT im a firm believer in trying on a few pair of shoes so i can find a pair that fits nicely How awful if she now finds out he has terrible Halitosis, too late shes already bought the goods and thrown away the reciept :?
what about an internet smooch? Is this ok? :smt058 Maybe just a kiss on the cheek. Don't want to waste it, after alllll! :smt101
Your answer my dear is Nowhere in the Bible does it say a couple shouldn't kiss before marriage. But if you really want to remain abstainate, there is good reason to refrain from kissing. Maghalil makes a good point here. So does Toronto. Exactly where do you draw the line? I think it's personal, I knew my own weakness when my guy and I started dating and we had very, very strong chemistry, so I chose not even to hold his hand in the theater. We didn't exactly talk about it, I just knew I would probably melt into a puddle at his feet if he touched me to sweetly, so I kept my space, until I could get a handle on my own emotions. I do not plan on waiting till marriage for that first kiss, but, I'm sure they knew their own weaknesses. As far as the Bible addressing will power, it says to "flee youthful lusts" it doesn't tell us to be strong in the face of them, it says to get out, it also says to "abstain from the appearance of evil" and in this case these guys are abstinence teachers, so they probably felt they had to take some extra precautions, for the sake of their won testimony. (You know the "higher standard" for some issue.) The Bible also says "you should not tempt the Lord your God". In other words don't set yourself up for failure. Fear of failure is another issue, and I do agree with you about not avoiding things because of it. However some things may not be worth the risk for some of us. I agree 100 % and I'm sure this couple would agree with that statement in bold, that is exactly why they chose to keep themselves until their wedding day. You see what if they had broken up or not gotten married after all? Then if they had already tried each other on for size as you indicate below, then they would not have had their purity left. There is a real joining, whether you call it spiritual or what, when 2 people have sex, and there is a ripping of both persons "souls" (for lack of a better word) when they don't stay together. So some of us prefer to limit that damage to ourselves rather than "try it on for size". I respect that you are not criticizing them for their decision, only stating that you wouldn't want to do it that way, which I also respect, but I wanted to explain why some of us do chose to wait.