Chivalry is dead???

Fuck that, if I open the door for a women she better say thank you.

 

It had better not be! A lady needs it. A lady should also show her appreciation for it, there is no excuse for no thanks.

 

Like Jordan, I don't think it's dead either but it does seem to be changing and maybe fading. Some women and young women are definitively unappreciative, but I also think that many are distracted by cell phones and ipods and just don't recognize a nice gesture (not that thats an excuse). THe same could be true with the guys too. I've also had guys (and this sounds bad but it isn't meant to be that way) that when looking at them you wouldn't expect it, make a concerted effort to hold open a door for me. I've also had many that you would think it would just be second nature, walk right in the door and almost close it in my face. Anyway, I'm very thankful for those guys that still have and show manners and I applaud them all!

 

Quite frankly i open the door to let her in for selfish reasons and that is, it gives me a great view of her derriere without her noticing i am looking, so i dont do it for chilvarous reasons.:smt102

 

Being courteous is good for others, but moreso for your own character, in my opinion. But just being nice to get something out of it is an ulterior moment and a woman will sniff it out.

 

Maybe its a regional thing? Not trying to be simple. But i moved to Houston from Sacramento.

I was convinced chivalry and manners in general were dead.

Texas has definitely changed my mind.

 

Chivalry may be dying but I also think that a lot of women dont act like ladies anymore. Us fellas have to deal with loud, obnoxious females that have no manners.

 

Or just demanding as hell. Its funny how people require of you what they don't have themselves.

 

I think a major problem people have is that being nice doesn't usually get you anywhere unless you're exceptionally goodlooking. Like a really pretty girl being kind to you feels like an unexpected but an ugly fat dude being nice seems to be expected because its not like they have a choice.

 

Like recently I dated a girl who kept going on and on about meeting a guy who could take care of things like a "real" man and my response was what was her idea of a real man in which she replied, "A real man is someone who can take care of his family and make his wife feel like a princess. He should be able to provide a good lifestyle for his loved ones"

Then I asked, "So what's your role"
"To have the kids I guess, but I might need help like a nanny or something"

Needless to say that was a first and last date.

 

Today I was walking into Krogers and there was a 30 something lady behind me, I got the first basket I pulled out and gave it to her. She said thank you and went about her way.

Just then 2 early 20s girls walked in and they saw what I had done for her and sort of paused. I got the next basket for myself and walked in. Fuck that, young bitches be tripping.

 

I agree with you on both points. I guess we have to be the change we want to see in the world.

 

Where I live, chivalry isn't all that dead. If I held the door open to someone, almost every time, I get a thank you. Very rarely would I get a snub or anything. People down here, despite certain "southern attitudes" of bigotry, people are still pretty courteous, especially in New Orleans.

Random people just help others or ask them if they are okay. Believe me, that sort of attitude somehow gets passed on a lot. Most of the time, I lose my hat and people here would chase after it, even people in crutches.

All in all, it's a matter of where you are.

 

You need to burn some sage to clense your karma my friend, where are you meeting these women?

 

Very true. Actually, I find Boston to be friendlier than other parts of Massachusetts, at least people talk when you are out.