Boxing, Kickboxing, and MMA

Got my orange belt on Wednesday.

 

grats

 

Thanks man.

 

Starting boxing this week. It is kicking my ass. I have a traditional martial arts background...taekwondo. Did it for four years. Also did some karate as a kid. Great for distance/technique. Poor for hand movement. I'm gonna do this for a few months then transition into muay thai. I still have my kicks that I can throw at will!

 

i think anything u do is cool

good way to relieve stress...exert aggression, and find a community of like-minded brothers

i know after BJJ, we'd spend just as much time bullshitting around the locker area as we would on the mats

people would talk about their jobs, their kids, their lives...stuff that makes you a part of a community

when guys have matches coming up, coaches send out invitations and stuff, asking your personally if you'll be able to make it to the event, to support them

really dig the team atmosphere that you don't get from working a 9-5 job

 

Yessir

 

I got a question about boxing vs MMA boxing. How can I transition my boxing more towards MMA? I'm trying to learn what best I can do because my coach now teaches strict boxing but he knows I want to pursue MMA, but I am not taking anything from boxing obviously b/c I wouldn't have approached him had I not thought it was valuable.

 

interesting post

best advice i can give you is to start training at a MMA gym. You won't develop the full arsenal you need at a strictly boxing gym (although Anderson Silva still trains straight-boxing with Freddy Roach, along with his other arts). A decent MMA gym will have at least one trainer for boxing, judo, wrestling, jiu jitsu, muay thai/kick boxing. The hard part about MMA is that attacks can literally come from any discipline, and you have to learn a little bit of everything, just so you can defend against it and work your strength which would be boxing.

The weakest part about pure boxers is that they are not used to protecting their legs. Since that's where you develop a good chunk of punching power, that's going to be the first point of attack from someone looking to nullify your strength.

But honestly tho...you just need to switch over to a MMA gym and start learning the complete fight game. As good as a boxer Junior Dos Santos is for instance, he also knows the ground game and how to wrestle. You don't want to be another 'Kimbo Slice'...strong puncher, nothing else.

 

http://thefightweek.com/striking-in-mma-and-boxing-the-difference-between-the-two/

pretty lengthy but solid article

kind of like a primer for new guys looking to go into MMA

as a side note, some MMA schools require that you obtain color-rank in jiu jitsu before actually training in their mixed-martial arts programs. This is for your own benefit, as the ground game is very important. One of the fighters where I train told me about one of his fights, where he was getting punked in the stand up. So, he decided to take the fight to the mat and won with a submission. That's a likely scenario for any fight and from experience, I can say that the ground game is very real lol. Once someone wraps your own Gi around your neck and starts dragging you on the ground, you'll realize that boxing won't go far unless you can develop basic survival skills on the mat.

 

Thanks man. I came from a striking background before. I used to do taekwondo for four years. Yea it is seen as a McDojo martial art but my instructor was ex military. I competed in a few point sparring tournaments and did really well, so I have excellent kicks and know how to use them. Problem is with TKD is that if someone invades your distance you will get lit up. TKD doesn't have the best hand arsenal. I believe after boxing here I will practice Muay Thai for a few months.

I just like the boxing because it has taught me foot movement and how to move and use the ring/cage. Plus the instructor is private and legit. Cruiserweight champ. His brother is a MMA coach but lives in AZ and he knows that I want to pursue MMA, so he said that I can learn a little from him and use that knowledge to help my stand up.

I've done a little grappling too and I have a few contacts for wrestling/BJJ so I will pursue that. The main thing about a MMA gym now is time and money. I enjoy weightlifting too much to completely drop it so I'm just picking up little at a time. Plus this guy that is training me is mad cool. I really appreciate the article.

 

MMA/BJJ @ academies is pretty expensive. I believe that if you train either or, you should really invest yourself into it and get your money's worth. Around here, it's easily 150-200/month which is like the cost of cable and other shit. Put your heart into it and cut out the other stuff, and really live the arts. Really strive to learn as much as you can, and to work you way up to the brown/black levels. If you carry yourself like that, I think you won't have a problem with it. If you don't, you may feel as those as you're flushing money down the toilet lol.

As for the weight lifting, when I first starting rolling in BJJ I slacked on it. I would easily workout 4/5 times a week, but ended up cutting it down to 2. The academy I trained at/am looking at going back to, does conditioning along with their technical training, so by the end of class you're burned out. Mind you I also work a full-time job and am doing this college thing part-time. I ended up just focusing on 45 minute plate/circuit type training after I wake up, and didn't heavy lift at all.

All the pushing and pulling associated with grappling is draining, but over time I started lifting more as my body adapted. Wrestling is one of those things that places a good emphasis on pound for pound individual strength, which is why you see D1 programs implementing weight lifting along with technical drills and cardio. The old saying is that if you put two guys together with the same level of technical skill, the stronger one will more often than not pull out a win. It's just an added factor in a fight that you either have or you don't.

 

not sure where u live, but i found one in my area with a good MMA package:

MMA 18 Month: $100/month + $150 Initiation Fee (Includes Free Gi)
MMA 1 Year: $115/month + $150 Initiation Fee (Includes Free Gi)
MMA 6 Month: $125/month + $150 Initiation Fee (Includes Free Gi)

their mma package includes unlimited access to all the disciplines they teach, from boxing/thai boxing/wrestling/judo/jiu jitsu

that's very cheap compared to other schools

im about to get nailed for 159/month@6 month contract, and that's just for jiu-jitsu/thai boxing

 

Nice! I've been liking my boxing training. Improving my footwork and jabbing. A lot of stuff.

I will sign up for a MMA gym in the near future. Probably around fall honestly. I'm not ready to do less weightlifting just yet.

 

I know how it is

Muscles and the summer is pure heaven

 

I've been lifting for 9 years too man.

 

This guy saw me training w/ my boxing coach. Asked me if we would like to spar (he was look at me in particular) because he has a friend that has been doing MA for a week now and wants to get a feel for it.

Sounds mad sketch. Not trying to get tuned up at a gym I don't know about.

 

Lol

just don't let him go for the oil change too

 

I am doing a 5d lifting split - a modified Northon PHAT work out. and I do San Soo (+grappling and pankration) 2 times a week.
One time on my "resting day" and one time on my days on.
Granted, I need a lot of rest and a LOT of calories to keep up but my body has adjusted just fine after a few weeks of pure hell.
I do take isopure twice a day on these days and cycling creatine. I also take a pre-work out powder and am considering BCAA for the day I am doing lifting and MMA the same day as I am going about 2 h for MMA on top of my 5d spit.

I am lucky though tat my MMA gym only charges a per month fee (75 dollars because I already pay a private trainer at that place 35 dollars for a one h training session for my heavy leg day.

I used to to Jujitsu when I was younger and its fun to get back with the San Soo. I have heard a lot of silly things about San Soo but it can be really brutal if you dont control the pressure or movements.
I love this.

Blackbrah, you will not regret it and I dont think you have to compromise on lifting, unless you want to excel fast, then lifting will have to go on the back burner. However, take a look at the MMA fighters, they are not necessarily big, but, boy, there is only muscles on those bodies. Fit as fit can be!

 

How do you know about PHAT..?? mind=blown

I just love lifting so much and I don't want to completely give it up. That's awesome you are into this lifestyle as well.

BCAAs are really good for intraworkout to help with your endurance during workouts. I recommend Scivation Xtend or AEN Intrabolic personally.

 

LOL. Im not a noob to lifting weights. I have done that off and on for well over 3 decades. I am doing the PHAT work out for 5 weeks (on week 3, 2nd week kicked my ass) and then I will switch. So far I have increased all my lifts w 5lb a week (except DL that somehow has gone backwards (think I need to re-assess my form), did 175 2 weeks ago and am now down at 135!!! may also be because the PHAT routine is pretty demanding and you need good rest and make sure you fill up your macros).

I will check out the Scivation, thank you so much for that