Blacks are terrible tippers?

just a suggestion. stop interracting with sa. i say this to my kids allllll the time....ignore he/she & he/she will stop what he/she is doing and go away because he/she is not getting the reaction he/she wants and it's no longer fun


- known mother trick #10

 

Funny how we're told to ignore her but God forbid if a female poster complains about a male one, he is to cease behaving in a way that makes them uncomfortable. Guess the ignore button only works one way.

#horseshit hypocrisy 101

 

HMMMM...WHEN HAVE I DONE THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT. DON'T BOTHER & GET OFF THE WHOLE #HORSESHIT HYPOCRISY BS. TIRED OF THE CRAP. HOW ABOUT YOU GO COMPLAIN TO WEBBIE ABOUT MY MODERATING SKILLS AND BE DONE WITH IT



GOES OFF REMEMBERING HOW I'VE PULLED PEOPLE UP FOR SPEAKING BADLY TO YOU & PECS YOUR DUO BUT LETS JUST IGNORE ALL THAT HORSESHIT

 

Who the fuck has said you never sided with me or took up for me? I sure as hell didn't. But just because you've been in my corner doesn't mean I shouldn't call you out just like you wouldn't hesitate to call me out.

Sigh I'm tired now you coming to bed or what?:smt054

 

FYI for the people who neg-repped me who were cowardly enough to go unsigned, I don't hate everyone on this board. I only hate cheapskates, and classless people who have no sense of etiquette in public who will embarrass me with their lack of social grace.

Then they call it normal, and put ME down for having standards? Pathetic. For those of you who are kind, and have the sense to tip well when you go out, you have my respect. To me, it's about acting like an adult and not like a little child.

Going to a nice restaurant with no intention of paying a proper tip is stealing.

 

True, true.

:smt043

Killin' 'em!!!

 

you never lie on that bro

 

LOL. nail on the head. LOL

 

I think I over tip now just to counter this stereotype.

 

I think this has more to do with social class than race. The two are often confused in the US. Tipping means you have disposable income, and you probably grew up watching your parents tip, and listening to them explaining the importance of tipping via they're cultural context and understanding of the matter. Many people from lower social classes in the US, don't tip well. It's not a part of their cultural upbringing, both Black and White. And to be frank, some, not all, don't see the value of tipping. Not to generalize, some not all again, think they've paid for their meals, and the employer pays the server, full stop.

They go out not only to eat, but to be served as well. I think what happens in America is that people confuse class issues with race issues, because a disproportionate number of Black Americans are in what some consider the underclass or lower class rungs of the socio economic ladder in America, though more than ever are entering the middle classes, though the middle class is shrinking incredibly everyday. As new the Middle class enter this different cultural context, they adapt to the social norms - tipping, language, dressing, school choices, and etc. Class and culture is learned, and poverty is the greatest stifling baton, beating upon the heads, of the newly emergent middle classes. A southern maxim is : "You do better, when you know better". This is not to say that middle class is better, but that's the general perception when compared with lower classes. Though in the US, everyone like to think of himself or herself in the middle class, when statistically, they are not.

In Europe, tipping isn't very common at all, so it's all about perception, and cultural social context. Though in Europe, the servers earn a living wage. I remember flying To France, and I decided to go to Quartier Bastille for a drink, saucisson, baguette, and frommage. Well at the bar, every time I finished a drink I tipped the guy a couple Euro. At first he tried to give it back, then said I didn't have to tip. i told him it felt weird not to tip. And so we went back and forth for an hour doing this song and dance. To compensate for his guilt, he kept giving free drinks, or doubles and triples when I ordered singles. Before I knew it, I was drunk as shit. He asked where I was from,and I said the US. He looked back at me with a Sly smile and said, "Oh, that's the problem, you Americans do tip". Ciao!

It's all about, culture, social norms, and context. My 5 cents! I tried not to generalize too much, though one has to when making point, even if you understand something isn't true for all.

 

Agreed Well... not so much of people not being able to separate race and class (and gender, lol) but because they're both interlocked. Look at nearly every social "problem" (crime, poverty, etc) and it's hard to tell if it's a person's race, class or gender that places them in their position.

Even disability could come into tipping. Deaf people have the same stereotype for being lousy tippers The way I tip has nothing to do with my race or deafness really... I look at it as social class. I'm a broke international student. I tip what I can, but if I need my $2 for public transportation home (to avoid using my Canadian bank card in the US), then that money is something that's not going to be tipped. I stick to going out to the same places... so sometimes when I have more cash with me I over-tip to make up for the lower tip the last time.

I like the France story

 

Agreed and ditto as well.

I was almost going to New Foundland. It's on my bucket list of places to visit. cool!

 

My girlfriend left at 1 am and I turned the TV on and I think I found my new reality show passion:

"No Kitchen Required" on BBC America.

Where chefs go to different cultures and have to cook to the natives, catching the food and cook it in a way that embraces the culture. Natives are judging the cooking. Love this!!!!

 

What does this have to do with tipping? lol

 

Maybe they tip eachother.

 

I cooked

For over 30 + years waitress get a rough haul at times.
As a cook you learn to train your wait staff. Teach em to run hard, learn the menu, expo etc..
But lets remember wait staff is only as good as the cooking crew! If one has a shotty cook staff every thing falls apart from there.
I always tried to make the wait staff look good( thats how they live) but you have a few that are just lazy!!!! Those i dont tip. But when you are slammed i give wiggle room. All that to say this
25-30% everytime

 

Maybe she was tipping the bottle. :axe:

 

I think you nailed it. :grin:

 

Although I follow you with class, I cannot deny, that the lowest and highest social class many times show the same behaviour.

 

Excellent point, Christine. Wealthy people (especially old money) can be notoriously stingy with their cash.