black men suffer in silence

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by goodlove, Mar 25, 2011.

  1. BlackMasterJay

    BlackMasterJay Well-Known Member

    I recall reading a comment on "racist site" stating that "white men are stronger than black men" because they possess power to end their lives (as in, the power to commit suicide during hard times). The comments was in regards to a man who commited murder-and in fresh pursuit by police, got ambushed with no where to go. He surrended. Some white dude on racist site basically said that, if that was a white man, he'd have commited suicide.

    dont know how that answers your q but meh lol

    I believe the only time to be depressed is in adolescent years (09-18 ) primarily due to ignorance and the fact that you are forced to "grow up" and "be a man" as life thows all kinds of exams at you. It can be overwhelming.

    After that (18- 28 ) ...you have no reason to be depressed. This years represnts learning and unlearning, remembering and forgetting. A period to adjust and fine tune yourself in terms of skill set. Shit will happen but thats part of the learning/unlearning process.. Self management is key because you will have to manage every aspect of life intelligently, from anger to rejecion to "sadness". I was so lucky because I met so many "teachers" whether in school, work or life and they taught me a plathora of management skills i grasped easily (anger, rage), and some that I gradually understood (frustration) and still many I don’t understand (rejection).
    so....i cant be depressed because i know how to manage my feelings......you should too:partyman:
     
  2. LanalusU

    LanalusU New Member

    ummmm where did I say men men don't have social pressures?
    I understand men can have it harder.. what I didn't understand was why white men seem to be killing themselves more than any other socially oppressed group.
    You need to read the whole thread.
     
  3. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    lets chalk up what TERR to not being able to express her/himself properly
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I believe that because WM "have everything" and would commit suicide is because when they lose it all then they cant handle the pressure and stigma of losing it all. they see it as a situation they cany bounce back from.

    Im sure that BM will eventually break and become depressed and have mental issues that will not be addressed. Im not an advocate of taking drugs but...to some extent you will need to be able to talk about it

    yeah. It is hard to be a man because you have to have many faces of tuffness and it is hard to do it alone.

    yeah , it is built in us to suffer and fight back.

    probably very small or probably wasnt being supported if not properly
     
  5. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    I thought about suicide a few times in my much younger life around the age of 9... It was really a scream for attention because I felt my family was'nt paying attention to me.

    Personally I applaud anyone who is able to do it because they are removing themselves from a dire situation.
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I dont applaud them and I dont call them cowards either. I will call them people who didnt give themselves a second or third chance.
     
  7. OpenHeart

    OpenHeart New Member

    GoodLove...this is painfully true. I just never saw it this way until now. I always saw them as self centered people who didn't give a damn how it would effect those they left behind. I recall how angry I was when Coach Dungee's (spelling?) committed suicide around Christmas time, just weeks before his Dad was to attempt to go to the Super Bowl that season. In fact, I had mixed feelings as to whether he even committed suicide because he had so much going for him. But anyway, thanks for posting that. You may never know, who you've helped with these words.
     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I hope it does help. I hate for people to call em cowards because they dont know how they feel but that is up for debate
     
  9. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    To you they may be, but when you're in a lot of pain (not physical, but emotional pain or mental anguish) you feel trapped. You don't see a way out. It may come off as being selfish, but at that point, it's not about the other people, because they're not in your shoes and no one can feel the way you're feeling.
     
  10. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Well said, IB.

    I've dealt with cycles of depression in my life & there were times when I was younger where I was suicidal (I even tried to do it at age 14). Anyone who hasn't been there has no idea what it's like & has no business judging others who have imo.
     
  11. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    Thanx :)

    Same here. It's depression in the lowest form. I don't look down on people who decide to take their lives, cause I understand.
     
  12. goodlove

    goodlove New Member


    what Im saying and I think you are looking at
    the issue of being mean...Im not. people call people who commit suicide cowards but I dont. I stated That they are people who believe they dont have a chance when it is possible they do..thus dont give up. that is what Im saying.


    yes I have been there. I went through a serious bout with depression. why do you think I made this thread. BP usually dont talk about mental illness (particularly depression) because they see it as a weakness. thus they dont talk about it and dont get the help they need. if you look like you are sad they will tell you to suck it up. hell, white men are in the same boat..we (BM) have more to deal with than WM but it is all the same.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2011
  13. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    No. I didn't say nor do I think you were being mean. I'm saying that a lot of people can't, won't and don't understand when you're that severely depressed and have hit rock bottom and like a a well, you don't see a way out of there. You don't look at things in terms of possibilities, you're immersed in your own pain and can't see anything else, hence why you want out.
     
  14. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    OH ok,. Got you. I was hoping it didnt come across that way. you know how it is .....when you say it in person it is different than it is on a blog in how it comes across.

    back on subject....the black culture is that depression is a sign of weakness so the men tend to not seek help of any kind. We tend to hide our pain more often than we should and it can be harmful
     
  15. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Yeah because wanting that person continue living a miserable existense at your pleasure isn't selfish at all. :roll:
     
  16. z

    z Well-Known Member

    lol.
     
  17. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I can understand if they were suffering from some disease that they are severly in pain and they will never be cured from. you know like the terry shivo (I know Im misspelling her name) from a few years back who had a head injury and was a veggie.
     
  18. celticboy04

    celticboy04 Member

    Maybe I need to do the same thing!!
     
  19. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    you got to be the dumbest dude I have ever come across..ooohh wait wait...yes. Im right you win.
     
  20. OpenHeart

    OpenHeart New Member

    Goodlove...I'm listening to some Anthony Hamilton. While listening to, Coming From Where I'm From, I thought about this thread. Thought I'd share it with you.

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