Infuriating video, the law has nothing to do with justice, be careful out there when intervening Black men, even if you are doing the right thing, video is your friend. [YOUTUBE]nudMPAgKhTI[/YOUTUBE]
This reminds me of an incident I witnessed in 2006. It was in the morning. A young girl was walking and a car pulls up beside her. A black man gets out and grabs at the girl. She was struggling to get away from him. The man was getting angry with her and he punched her a few times in the ribs and sternum, all the while avoiding punching he in face. A friend of mine on the job saw the incident I was angry. I wanted to go over there and beat the shit out of him for hurting the girl. My friend held me back and told me not to go over there because in my efforts to save the girl, that girl would put a knife in my back or some other act on her part to prove that she is loyal to him. I was frustrated as we watched the man continued to hit her. He shoved the young girl into his car and drive away. I realized that my friend was right; she probably won't have any compunction about defending her abuser. Cops have no idea when they arrive at a scene. The main rule in law enforcement is to arrive and examine the scenes and come ask questions of other witnesses to formulate a finding that would warrant the appropriate use of force. This didn't happen. Just a group of police men and women who have their adrenaline was up and the police would have a difficult time for them because they acted in the interest of trying to help the victim and etc. Looking back, I was glad I didn't go over there to confront the pimp.
The video was not clear on that point. The fact that he ended up in cuffs even though he had the video and multiple eye witnesses is maddening.
I read about that recently. Apparently, it happened on a bus in Brooklyn, and both men were handcuffed until the seargent hearing a brief explanation immediatley ordered the officers to remove the cuff from the good samaritan, and took the creep into custody. I'm glad he didn't get arrested, but being cuffed can't be fun either. I do understand why the responding officers would detain both until things are cleared up. In the clip from the talk show, the guy in the middle hits it right on the head. It's scary stuff as this definitely had the potential to get really bad for good samaritan. I'm glad it didn't.
To be fair they got a call about a fight and one dude's nose is bleeding. Until I question people he stays in cuffs. Why chance it?
As long as no one is hurt by the cops and they get the situation resolved correctly, I don't have a big problem with the cops handcuffing a dude until they figure out what's going on. Think about it, they could have arrested and booked this dude and only later after a few months dropped the charges. At least the cops got it right, for a change. Consider yourself lucky if you interact with law enforcement and don't end up in cuffs, whether or not you're actually innocent. Some of these jokers LOVE to put some poor fool through the whole process of being treated like a criminal, then only after the fact will they say, 'we made a mistake. Have a nice day.:smt023'.
An abundance of caution by the police is understandable, but if you notice in the video they talked to multiple people before handcuffing the guy, it should have been VERY clear that he was the good guy and not the criminal.
I would never physically jump in. I don't know them or their story so the most I will do is call the cops. Like you said, she may be getting her ass beat but she may still be loyal to the man she actually knows.
I agree with you Loki. The only thing is, if he did assault the sexual deviant and the deviant files a complaint, they must arrest him on suspicion, right? Or at least detain him for questioning. Where does the law stand on it? Is it much like a woman who shoots her husband who just beat her up.. we know she would be initially handcuffed or arrested. Again, l agree with you, because we can safely MM quarterback after the fact. If there was no retaliatory violence, then this would be more than horrible. I'm so proud of this guy. He got involved, and thus learned the hard lesson that no good deed goes unpunished.
Detaining all involved while taking statements and conducting the investigation is standard procedure and not out of line at all. If the facts really were as presented in the video, and the other passengers and the victim herself clearly stated to the officers that he was the good guy stepping in to help her, and he still ended up in cuffs, he may well have basis for a civil suit of emotional distress.
I was glad to see that neither person was roughed up (and neither resisted). It definitely appeared that the police handled this situation the right way, including the seargent instructing them to remove the handcuffs.