Black male bashing!

Huh? You are backing off now? What happen to the black feminist?



On one of your earlier points....I happen to be completely lovable, but women are completely unlovable; at the end of your empathy is complete narcissism. Most women happen to be in love with themselves, not their mates. From error to error, one discovers the entire truth!

 

Ah yes! The minute a man shows a small amount of emotion WOMEN shoots him down by attacking his masculinity. Typical! The only thing women ACCEPT or WANT to understand from men is hostility. I rest my case! You have done nothing by proved my point justhereforaminute!

"'Anxiety' describes a particular state of expecting the danger or preparing for it, even though it may be an unknown one. 'Fear' requires a definite object of which to be afraid. 'Fright', however, is the name we give to the state a person gets into when he has run into danger without being prepared for it; it emphasizes the factor of surprise." -- Sigmund Freud

 

My 2 cents

@ Comparing bell hooks with black rappers

It does make a difference if a ghetto dude or ex con raps about his baby moma's attitude and misbehavior (something which she could change easily with some good will) or if people who are considered to be "black academics", "black intellectuals" or "black scholars" speak and write about black men being "uniquely pathological" and "dysfunctional" due to a kind of "mental disease" and therefore can't be easily changed but need to be "cured" from a kind of "mental sickness".

Furthermore, I have yet to see a "woman bashing" movie nominated for 11 academy awards or a "woman bashing" book that wins the Pulitzer Prize as it was the case with Alice Walker's "The color purple" in which she pushes black misandry to extremes.


@ Comparing bell hooks with other feminists

The example Lexington posted demonstrates perfectly the major differences between feminists in general and black feminists of the ilk of bell hooks and Alice Walker. In Lexingtons quote the feminists talk about men, in general, determined by the male XY chromosome, racial qualifiers absent, while bell hooks and her ilk define the men they are talking and writing about as black first, and as men second - and this was and still is the core principle of white supremacist doctrine: the assertion that not men, in general, are bad -- only the black men are the sick dysfunctional inferior animals. That one can overlook how deeply brainwashed by white supremacist doctrine these black women are is beyond me.


@ Male behavior

In all patriarchal cultures, men who leave their communities to explore other options are called progressive explorer and strong minded freethinkers. And if men in these cultures are running around having sex with anything on 2 legs it is described as "typical masculine" or "testosterone driven" behavior (whereas the women who are stupid enough to fall for them are described as "weak", and having "loose morals")

And while the literature of the dominating culture is full of dithyrambs which generally depict these men as strong heros and extremly masculine legends - just think Giacomo Girolamo Casanova or Don Juan Tenorio (and imagine James Bond without frequently seducing several new "Bond girls") black women and white men managed to exclude black men from this depiction, and whenever a black man behaves in this manner he is described as "weak" "not strong enough" and is accused of behaving "unmanly" and "uniquely pathological" (whereas the women with several baby daddies are described as "strong", and having "high moral standards").


@ I engage in/agree with black male bashing but " I love you" &
@ You mistreat me but "I want to stay with you"
If anything is dysfunctional, then that's it.

 

7, you obviously enjoy circular arguments which inevitably becomes boring for most after a certain point. However, I recognize this is clearly mindless sport for you during down time. Most of your threads start off with several members making contributions only to end up with you and one other person going back and forth like ping pong balls trying to wear the other down and getting nowhere fast.

While some of your topics are highly interesting and I may agree with you on various points whether I comment or not, the bottomline is that you do have a problem with women and you've boxed yourself into a place where they throw up their hands in frustration and disgust with you. I'm fine with however you choose to reconcile my decision not to take your bait. You did answer my main question about whether you felt ww hated wm, but I see no reason to provide you with the pleasure of another long drawn out multi-page thread with no resolution in sight. If I recall correctly the webmaster has stepped in on more than one occasion to lock your threads for the same reasons I've mentioned. Your entire goal is seemingly based on rankling women and proving your abilities as a pseudo pedant. Dismissing and ignoring you is the worse life sentence humanly possible to mete out to someone such as yourself. Make no mistake I understand that we have virtually nothing in common so there's no need for me to consider your thoughts and feelings about anything particularly where it concerns bw.

@justhereforaminute, for the most part 7 is an equal opportunity irritant, but it wouldn't be normal if he didn't hold a very "special" place for bw. Too bad many of his comments are no longer available on expired threads.

 

@justhereforaminute, silvercosma is the type of ww who feels she has the power to name and define the identities and realities of blacks and that her account should be perceived as authoritative. It’s easy for people like her to claim specialized competency in this area after reading a couple of recommended books.

 

I do not have any more problems with women than the average man. I am just able to articulate it in the consciousness. You, like most women, can not get past your own ideals and when they are challenged, your only defense to the man whom destroys the metaphysical principle of your very argument, is to attack him; no sport of mine is "mindless."

Ah yes! The standard rubbish, and magic words whlist attacking the man. What else is new? "Pseudo", of course, effectively means not a damn thing, if you can not prove my inductive reasoning is a complete falsity Lexington.

Yet, you took the time to analyze my thoughts and feelings and haven't contribute a thing to this topic. Can you even formulate a thought of your own accord, beside the standard postulation of racist rhetoric espoused by some radical pundit? You should be afraid of men like me and you should ALWAYS run the other direction, in fret, I'll make you seem absolutely ignorant to reality.

 

Reality is something you haven't dealt with in quite some time, 7. Now if this is a place you can get your jollies and showcase your own gross ignorance at the same time then knock yourself out. Just stop pretending you have the slighted grasp on complex issues surrounding gender differences particularly those in my community. I know you're just now hitting your stride and had such high hopes for a slugfest, but I'm going to short-circuit your efforts right here. Since you have run out of material on women you're most accustomed you have now set your sights on women you are not a part of in hopes of getting some positive attention for a change.

 

Ah! So my points only become invalid because I am "mixed?" What is the case -- I am not "black enough" for you eh? Or do you just expect me to enter a tirade of an emotion bent like the rest of the black men you have encountered? I isn't anymore evident, that you have never been opposed by a calm and rational mind; you are completely on the defensive and most of your reasoning of my character is highly undeterministic. Yet, you still haven't contributed anything to this topic. It seems, you only participated to sully my character.

Your principle on SOME is arbitrary and ambiguous. You use SOME loosely and randomly to give empirical conclusions, then, rationalise a flawed position by works from an angry black female nazis like Bell Hooks. Until you acknowledge her dogma as destructive and not liberating your position will always be flawed, along the lines of hate and repression. I really have no more to say to you little one.

 

Actually, I have been living in the state for 4 years now. NYC, Manhattan!

 

:lol: What? Do you think it's any easier to grow up in a majority white environment as a "mixed" child!? It ain't any easier mate! Besides, I grew up in South side London and "London" in general is just and multi culture/racial and New York -- if not moreso, I can indeed draw an empirical conclusion based on the same similarities.

My ideals are based on the intricacies of objectivity and observation. Nothing but tentative curiosity and the BOLDNESS to assert my intellectual manipulation on those verified observations.................and if my observations are indeed INCORRECT -- because, I am indeed no born with infinite knowledge, it is always a probability I take into consideration. This is what YOUR refuse to understand about Bell Hooks and other men and women who think along the same lines like her: women and men like them, can never be persuaded from their dubious positions. They take on certain conviction, with false notions and develop an emotional attachment to their ideals. Concepts manifested from emotional suffering WILL cause bad reasoning.

 

I don't place much value on thoughts and opinions from people who actually believe they are in a better position to interpret my experiences better than I'm capable of. It's not because she's white but more about the expectation that her views should automatically trump all others. Check out this thread:

http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/f...p?t=3226&sid=3c9d0681a5870493ca05911d3817089a
Article: You're So Articulate

 

I'm reading with some weird fascination how quickly two BW trolls (who claim that they "always have the back of black men" ) turned this thread (created to discuss the biases and problems black men have to deal with) into a pointless battle of egotistical, Jerry Springer level discourse.

Watching how they clamour for attention ("Me Me Me - why is nobody talking about ME and what I have to go through") is like watching a fatal car accident, it's horrifying, but, unfortunately, there is nothing one can do to prevent it from happening.

 

While I realize this happens to be your "particular" strong suit, I'd didn't think you'd mind my reaching out where you're most comfortable. I'm quite sure some may not have the ability to see through your little manipulative angle, but I do. That's one highly developed skill where you are truly peerless.

 

Her "particular" gameplan to bond and connect with bm is based upon promoting the notion that all bw are the natural enemy of bm...and the benevolent ww is his natural saviour, as she is to wm as well regardless of what has come to light about her own community. All this is to block out, deflect and mute her own disgraceful role in the treatment of bm past and present. Her type works diligently to ferret out any worn out information she feels will resonate with her target audience. She only piped in after I posed a question to 7seven asking if ww hated wm. She's pretty good at what he does, but it's one of the most common underhanded tactics her "particular" ilk is known to employ.

 

Ah! So I see, this is only about black entertainers and such? Poor blacks with poor education and such? The infamous quasi black alpha male eh? Wait...it's too bad you only mention about 30 percent of "your community." What about the "brotha" that is working the hard "9 to 5", what about the "brotha" who has graduate degrees: the educator with a bright future and such? You see, BW -- women in general can easily VOTE for the type of man they want, because men in general create their words around women.

Silvercosma does have a point though, you just fail to realise it because of your bias opinion: if black entertainers and other type of alpha male didn't proclaim to the type of idiosyncrasies of BW that they didn't like, there will be no such "womyns" as Bell Hooks.

Of course you have a right to an opinion, just like Martin Heidegger, a nazi philosopher, has a right to his opinion: your constitution grants you those rights -- there are "whites" who identify their beliefs to his concepts about race; but, that doesn't make either Bell Hooks or Martin Heidegger correct.

 

It's not unusual for WW who have been abused by WM to continue dating/mating in that same pool. Many BM have taken note of this and can't understand why they aren't given more consideration under these circumstances.

Someone started a thread requesting BM to comment positively on BW. Silvercosma showed up to chide one member over his comments since they weren't in line with his previous statements. She's acutely aware that some BM still consider it a coup to ingratiate and align themselves with an obviously racist WW as long as he's convinced she'll only outwardly display her hatred towards one half of his race. However, this rule will usually hold but for so long until her she reveals her true nature. I'm quite sure she's an expert at tailoring her game according to the level of gullibility she encounters.

 

Lexington is the type of bw who feels she has the power to name and define the identities and realities of whites and that her account should be perceived as authoritative. It’s easy for people like her to claim specialized competency in this area after reading some gossip magazines.

:mrgreen:

 

And we mustn't forget your Ringmaster...Jerry Springer...the prevailing arbiter on all there is to know!

 

It doesn't matter since you aren't her target audience. :lol: The ones she holds sway over are incredibly devoted. Read this story (taken from a gossip magazine) and one of the comments that followed this incident. Although this woman is still married to her previous husband, I don't know how they are considered legally married.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/12/national/main773839.shtml
(CBS/AP) The father of a woman accused of killing a corrections officer to free her inmate husband said he suspected the couple might be planning an escape and asked a Utah probation officer to alert authorities in Tennessee.

However, the information never reached Tennessee because it "didn't appear to raise any red flags," Utah Department of Corrections spokesman Jack Ford said Friday.

He said the Utah officer had planned to contact officials in Tennessee on Tuesday — the day police said Jennifer Hyatte, 31, ambushed two prison guards as her husband, George Hyatte, was being led from a courthouse in Kingston, Tenn.

The Hyattes, now held in a jail in Ohio where they were captured Wednesday, are fighting extradition to Tennessee on warrants of first-degree murder.

Floyd Forsyth, Jennifer Hyatte's father, said that in a phone conversation three weeks ago his daughter asked him if he "had any spare handcuff keys." She was expecting her husband to be released from prison soon and wanted to "handcuff him to the bed," Forsyth said.

(click link to continue reading)

 

When white feminists or masculinists write books critiquing "men or women" it's implicit who they are actually limiting the subject matter to. Henry Makow is a prime example. I doubt very seriously if he is including women of his wife's ethnicity in all his writings.

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