I think that Latinos in America are distinctly different in the West, in the South Florida area and in the NY/NJ area. The Latinos who are closest to Afr-Ams are in the NY/NJ area....and the Latinos who are most distant from Afr-Ams are in the West and S. FL area. Anywho, this story is a must read: http://www.newsweek.com/id/104725 The Kid Rast
I look forward of reading it. The reason Latinos are closer than the Blacks on the East Coast is because the Afro-Latinos from P.R,Cuba,and the Dominican Republic. Along with the Afro-Latinos on the coastal areas of Latin America.
Exactly. Many of these folks, especially Dominicans and Boricuas, go through similar struggles as do black folks and because there isn't the rigid hatred for each other like blacks vs Mexicans, there seems to be a mutual coexistence. Which leads me to believe that it is more of a regional issue. However, because more than 65% of Latinos in America are Mexicans, well .... you know the rest.
Hell, Mexicans don't like other Hispanics: When I was working at KFC (where t one point I was the only black person there), I mentioned to a fellow co-worker, a Mexican female that I like HW...Mexican, Puerto Rican, etc. At the sound of Puerto Rican, she actually said 'ewww'. Also, I have friends in Miami who are Ecuadorian. They've also experienced strange looks from Mexicans (although they speak Spanish). They've clarified the differences, but since I live in Phoenix, everything is Mexican. When I went to visit them in Miami, it's Latino. Phoenix: Mexican Resturant; Miami: Latino Resturant.
That's what I'm sayin'. Also, Latinos from S America -- specifically, Brasil, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador & Venezuela show a brotha much luv. Also, ticas from Costa Rica. The Kid Rasta 8)
My family is Venezuelan. :mrgreen: Basically the posts here from yourself, SmoothDaddy101 and Soulthinker are correct. I have an aunt that lives on the west coast and she has nothing to do with Mexicans. She's more open minded to Americans of Mexican decent that have lived here for several generations because they're culturally Americans although some of them might pretend otherwise. Also part of the problem is that native born Americans assume that Hispanics/Latinos are all the same. This is false. They fail to take into account that Latin America is composed of various countries with different nationalities, cultures, ethnic groups and races and not all are necessarily friendly to one another.
On Latino music I love salsa since it has a Nubian feel and some tejano music mostly Selena. On immigration I think the Latinos who work so hard to become citizens:taking tests,patience,etc are being slapped in the face by the Latinos who come illegally. I remember on some farms on the East Coast the farmers don't want Puerto Ricans but, Mexicans since they are easy to take advantage of. It is sad. As for the Afro-Cubans they should get strong leadership in the event Fidel's brother eases relations with the US.
Edward James Olmos is giving a lecture about youth violence/race relations at a local college this week; it's in the mid-afternoon, and I'll still be at work; wish I could go see it, though..
Aww..Selena...I'll never forget when she died. I was in 3rd grade and went to a school that was predominantly Latino....there were news cameras all over the truck that Yolanda Salazar was in....we watched Univision the entire school day....everyone was crying their eyeballs out...it was said. :cry:
I remember it myself and I was in tears when the Barrio Boyz sang in Spanish "It's Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" at a special honoring her. I never cried when it was sung in English but, the way they sang it was heartfelt. Univision shown her last consert. Also,the funeral of Celia Cruz,the Queen of Salsa was heartfelt as well.
Word, son. Salsa as a music genre composes of many styles. Salsa started out when the Africans - West Africans that is - came to the Caribbeans because the instruments used in salsa are used in African music genres such as la pandetera. I love salsa a lot and my fiancee does too - she's Cuban/Dominican - so it helps that she loves it too. But really, a lot of people don't know that salsa was started by Africans.
Mandingo banging on a bongo drum, isn't exactly the first thing that comes to mind, when I hear the term "salsa." As a matter of fact, my old high school used to have a SALSA club. The acronym stood for Spanish and Latino Student Association. :roll: same thing goes for rock n roll. A lot of people claim ignorance, to the idea that the rock genre (which is highly populated by white artists now), was started by black musicians. In the mainstream, I do not see a lot of credit given towards black people, for creating rock music. If you do not know your history, you would never have known that black people played such an important part.
I'd have to disagree with the assertion that blacks started rock music. It may depend on how it's defined but rock music, as we know it today, can be directly traced to the rhythms, sensibilities and sounds of British musicians. Having said that, there's no doubt that African American musicians (especially blues artists) were a major influence to those musicians but the British were the pioneers.
According to Wikipedia: The immediate origins of rock and roll lie in the late 1940s and early 1950s through a mixing together of various popular musical genres of the time. These included gospel, folk music, and the blues - particularly the electric forms being developed in Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans, Texas, California, and elsewhere - piano-based boogie woogie, and jump blues, which were collectively becoming known as rhythm and blues. Also in the melting pot creating a new musical form were country and western music (including Western swing and influences from traditional Appalachian folk music), jazz, and gospel music. However, elements of rock and roll can be heard in country records of the 1930s, and in blues records from the 1920s. During that period many white Americans enjoyed African-American jazz and blues performed by white musicians. Often "black" music was usually relegated to "race music" outlets (music industry code for rhythm and blues stations) and was rarely heard by mainstream white audiences. A few black rhythm and blues musicians, notably Louis Jordan, the Mills Brothers, and The Ink Spots, achieved crossover success, in some cases (such as Jordan's "Choo Choo Ch'Boogie") with songs written by white songwriters. The Western swing genre in the 1930s, generally played by white musicians, also drew heavily on the blues and in turn directly influenced rockabilly and rock and roll, as can be heard, for example, on Elvis Presley's "Jailhouse Rock" (1957). Former western swing singer/pianist Moon Mullican, whose singing and playing style was steeped in black music, emerged as a honky tonk star after the end of that era and, besides country ballads, he often turned to jump blues like "Rocket to the Moon" and piano blues like "Pipeliner Blues" which bore resemblance to what Jerry Lee Lewis would later record. Going back even further, rock and roll can trace one lineage to the old Five Points, Manhattan district of mid-19th century New York City, the scene of the first fusion of heavily rhythmic African shuffles and sand dances with melody-driven European genres, particularly the Irish jig[1]. Origins of the phrase "Rock and Roll"In 1951, Cleveland, Ohio disc jockey Alan Freed began playing rhythm and blues music for a multi-racial audience. Freed is credited with first using the phrase "rock and roll" to describe the music. However, the term had already been introduced to US audiences, particularly in the lyrics of many rhythm and blues records. Three different songs with the title "Rock And Roll" were recorded in the late 1940s; one by Paul Bascomb in 1947, another by Wild Bill Moore in 1948, and yet another by Doles Dickens in 1949, and the phrase was in constant use in the lyrics of R&B songs of the time. One such record where the phrase was repeated throughout the song was "Rock And Roll Blues," recorded in 1949 by Erline "Rock And Roll" Harris. The phrase was also included in advertisements for the film Wabash Avenue, starring Betty Grable and Victor Mature. An ad for the movie that ran April 12, 1950 billed Ms. Grable as "...the first lady of rock and roll" and Wabash Avenue as "...the roaring street she rocked to fame". Before then, the phrase "rocking and rolling", as secular black slang for dancing or sex, appeared on record for the first time in 1922 on Trixie Smith's "My Man Rocks Me With One Steady Roll". Even earlier, in 1916, the term "rocking and rolling" was used with a religious connotation, on the phonograph record "The Camp Meeting Jubilee" by an unnamed male "quartette".[2] The word "rock" had a long history in the English language as a metaphor for "to shake up, to disturb or to incite". "Rocking" was a term used by black gospel singers in the American South to mean something akin to spiritual rapture. By the 1940s, however, the term was used as a double entendre, ostensibly referring to dancing, but with the subtextual meaning of sex, as in Roy Brown's "Good Rocking Tonight." The verb "roll" was a medieval metaphor which meant "having sex". Writers for hundreds of years have used the phrases "They had a roll in the hay" or "I rolled her in the clover"[3]. The terms were often used together ("rocking and rolling") to describe the motion of a ship at sea, for example as used in 1934 by the Boswell Sisters in their song "Rock and Roll"[4], which was featured in the 1934 film "Transatlantic Merry-Go-Round",[5][6] and in Buddy Jones' "Rockin' Rollin' Mama" (1939). Country singer Tommy Scott was referring to the motion of a railroad train in the 1951 "Rockin and Rollin'". [7]. The rest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
at times, wiki can be a reliable source of information. however, many of it's pages are maintained by day-to-day users, and not by a firm, nameable and credible source.. just FYI, because any argument which is sustained, using wiki reports, is going to be shot down on the grounds of lack of credibility not saying that I disagree with you ...just a heads up
In some big cities like Chicago there were Black and Tan Jazz clubs where IR couples hang. Some of the famous artists played at those places.
