Black guys like white girls because they're white

Discussion in 'Stereotypes and Myths' started by DJ_1985, Feb 12, 2006.

  1. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    there she is ranting again...honey, i think you might want to do your homework before you start bashing silver...silver is very well respected on the board...i haven't seen karma since you bashed him on the forum...you are a busy woman...why so angry honey? are you horny LOL
     
  2. Wedlock

    Wedlock New Member

    Stereotypes and Myths.

    :D Okay, Grand Rapids, we shall agree to disagree,because I'll always end on a positive note with you, and hope the same for the other posters.I am fairly new here, and so do not know all the dynamics going on, but a sense of community is great to have even if there are kind differences of opinion.
    I am not not here to start any flame wars nor escalate any.I welcome all good discussions.Let's keep a positive vibe, and the lines of communication open.I have learned a lot from you, and hope that our discussion on various issues will grow into a great relationship in this forum.
    Peace, and we'll say you had the last word on the topic, and we'll bury it for now until it's time for another discussion, or maybe a revisiting will be in order.Thank you for everything. :D
     
  3. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    [​IMG] Hey Lipstick!

    Yeah, our little rabbit feels entitled to dismiss and to express her disdain for a whole group of people, is lubricating her panties over a dude advocating white supremacist literature, entertains us with jokes about "dumb blondes" and is trolling the board with the same old same old bushwa about how black men who have a preference for white women or like black women she deems to be "not black enough" must be brainwashed and/or suffer from some kind of mental defect.

    Yet, it's us who are the racists and it's the men who are colorstuck! [​IMG]

    But hey, are you even surprised? Afterall, "black" women are never racist, they are just "strong" and "outspoken", whereas white women and black men who dare to be attracted to eachother are racist by default.

    She has it all figured out, remember? [​IMG]
     
  4. jeverage

    jeverage New Member

    Wedlock,

    I was actually just trying to let you know that even though I had my point of view, I did understand where you were coming from and just trying to say maybe we should fall in the center. You have valid points, just like I had points. I really wasn't trying to have the last word. I do apologize if you had that kind of impression.

    So, everything you said, that is cool with me.

    Peace. :lol:
     
  5. Wedlock

    Wedlock New Member

    Stereotypes and Myths

    :( is lubricating her panties over a dude advocating white supremacist literature- "Sivercosma"(sp?)

    Please don't post things about me that aren't true. I do not know you, and it's likely you don't know me, but again, I don't advocate philosophies which say that people are better than other people.
    You said you weren't interested in dialogue, and that's certainly your right, but with all due respect please don't post things that aren't true and mischaracterize me.
    If the above remark wasn't a backhanded reference at me then I do apologize to you publicly, but if it was, then I'd ask you to stop saying that about me.Especially since I went through the efforts in explaining that quoting a source needn't mean that you advocate the entirety of said source.Hitler said some quotable things during his life time, but that certainly doesn't mean I am a follower of his philosophy.
    So, again you may not agree or even like me, but could we at least respect each other?I'd certainly do that for you. :D
     
  6. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    :smt006 hey silver...
    i smell what you're cooking girl...at first i didn't get why all of these bw were trolling the site...but i see now that this is more than likely the ONLY place they can get a bm to interact with them...LOL
    it ruined it for me a short while back...i use to post as cosmetic until i went a few head butts with jeverage...i packed my bags and left...the thing is i date bm and i am a ww so i know why i am here...they are just trying to rain on our parade...so i love calling her on her bullshit...she tries to keep it together but often slips into her racist crap...i love smearing her face in it...
    i have to give you props silver...the thread on "respect where it's due" was enlightening...
     
  7. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    [​IMG] yes, I know who you are, and I'm very glad to see that you changed your mind and didn't leave the board for good! I was at the edge of leaving as well, but then I thought: The board will be what we make it to be! and decided not to give up on it. We should all meet in chat one time to find out how we can turn this board into a place WW can enjoy again!
     
  8. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    thanks silver! i see that chi is getting attacked on another thread by jeverage now...this is getting interesting...she is over there calling you and i racist...it's laughable...because anyone that knows me knows that i am not a racist...i guess that is one of the difficult things about posting on a forum like this...i received your message from the webmaster and i see that you posted in the ladies room...i think you are right...we need to round up the rest of the girls on the forum...go track down some of our old posters...possibly the webmaster can help us with this...by sending out an invitation via email to come back to the forum...i think we will all do better if as a group we support each other...we can just ignore the haters...and have a good time together...
    i hope you are having a good start to your weekend!
     
  9. jeverage

    jeverage New Member

    If you are not a racist lipstick. Prove it. In your words you have showed tremendous hate, bigotry, prejudice, and racist thinking against BW and thus, Black people as a whole. You curse, you make racial slurs and remarks. You make crude and nasty jokes. From what I have read from your posts, you represent the pinnacle of tackiness. And again, I guarantee you are going to say something classless, raunchy, tacky, and bigoted to me. This seems to be your M.O. As a matter of fact, you are a true hypocrite. When BW said what you liked, you were like "Go Girl" even asked the Webmaster about beauty staying on the board. However, when we began to say things that you disagreed with, all of a sudden all the BW had to go. Silly, Silly, and more Silly. This seems to be your M.O. So come on, put on a show--get to cursing, get to making racial slurs, get to saying something tacky and raunchy. You have the floor--put on a good show. Put on a good show.

    Peace.
     
  10. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    actually miss average...i think i will just let you continue to make a fool out of yourself...i feel sorry for you...you must be very lonely...i don't have anything to prove to you...you are insignificant to me...you are just a random bw posting on a forum for ww & bm...i did ask about beauty...i thought she was fun and upbeat...i don't have a problem with beauty...she hasn't been the one acting a fool...so don't make her part of your drama...she may be a bw...but that doesn't mean that she is like you at all...
     
  11. jeverage

    jeverage New Member

    lipstick.

    At least you responded with some sense. However, you did not make the distinction between me and the other BW on this board only until recently. I am glad you have finally taken that view. Now, you can put me on the ignore tip and I will with you. I am not trying to impress anyone on this site, these people on this site are not my friends or family. Some are cool, some are not cool. We are all just posters. In my opinion, if considering public opinion, everyone is making a fool of themselves considering they are even on this site with a big WHITE WOMEN BLACK MEN as the title. However, we don't give a damn. Therefore, I don't care how you or others here view me either.

    Peace.
     
  12. jeverage

    jeverage New Member

    Silvercosma,

    It is obvious that you lack a serious understanding of Black life and what goes on in the Black community. You figure you have it all figured out, that you actually understand the experience and the struggles of Black people. I am a BW, and I don't even claim that kind of knowledge. Black people are not monolithic. However, I guarantee I know a heck of lot more than you do. I see this a lot in your posts. This shows your ignorance and arrogance and the attitude of the "know all" perception I see many White people have, when they know absolutely nothing.

    As for you commenting on the dumb blonde joke-- First of all, the joke was included in a list of jokes about men and women period. And I didn't write these jokes. From the looks of the jokes, it probably came from a source where the person could have been a WW or a WM b/c the general nature of the jokes Black people, for the most part, do not do dumb blonde jokes b/c the majority of us are not blondes. As a matter of fact, the only people, in my personal experience, who send me "dumb blonde jokes" to me are WHITE PEOPLE. As a matter of fact, I know BLONDES who laugh at these jokes and share them with me. Therefore, you really need to stop using this as an example as proof of myself being a racist. Choosing this particular joke is a classic move of yours to support your paranoid image of the big bad BW.


    Second, I am still not fond of White people, in general. This means I do not show excessive tenderness, I am not overindulgent, and I do not cherish with strong or unreasoning feeling White people. This means my feelings are inbetween, mixed, and somewhat indifferent with White people. This doesn't mean disdain, it doesn't mean hate, and it doesn't mean anti-White. Stop putting words in my mouth. Again, classic Silver twisting statements and words to fit your agenda. Stop it!!

    Third, I never said a BM who prefers a WW or a woman who looks close to a WW is brainwashed or has a mental defect. I said the BW djmonie choose was a poor example of proving that he liked BW too b/c she has more of a so-called WW's appearance. Also, I stated in my post, that WW is his preference and I am not knocking him, but for the sake of his argument, she was a poor example. As a matter of fact, I have never stated a BM who prefers a WW is brainwashed or has a mental defect. I stated that it could be due to social programming, a natural occurence, or both. Of course, you are going to criticize anyone who uses the "social programming" possibility b/c you never ever experienced colorism in the Black community. I have. Therefore, you could not possibly understand where I am coming from. In the end, you, I, or anyone else on this site cannot pin down the reasons why a BM prefers a WW. It would be arrogant and ignorant to do so. To claim it is just natural and has nothing to do with environment and to suggest the possibility that it can have something with environment is being stereotypical and racist is just as close minded and intellectually ridiculous as stating it has nothing to do with natural attraction and it has everything to do with social programming. Nobody in here, including you, or I has the one and only true answer for why people choose to be who they are with. Sometimes, that person doesn't even know. Again, classic Silver twisting statements and words to fit your agenda. Stop it!!

    Also, it is obvious that you do not understand the definition of racism. Racism is an societal ideology using skin color and physical characteristics set forth by the dominants in a society that promotes the inferiority and hatred towards those whom they subjugate who are a different skin color and have different physical characteristics, or so they say. You can do this through language, education, laws, and the media. In the case of the U.S. those who are dominant, are White people, more specifically those who represent the elite ruling class, not Black people. It was White people from the elite ruling class, who set forth a societal ideology of promoting the inferiority and hatred toward those people of color. In the U.S. there doesn't exist a sweeping societal ideology that promotes the inferiority and hatred towards White people. Thus, a racist can be a person who internalizes and believes in the inferiority of people of color. In this sense, a White person, who accepts this ideology can be called a racist. Also, a person of color who buys into the negative images and stereotypes of other people of color including their own, could be labeled as a racist towards other people of color or practicing a form of intra-racism when dealing with their own ethnic group. But it would be incorrect to call a Black person racist against a White person, in my opinion, using this definition. Therefore, I am not racist. However, lets look at the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of racsim--a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination. If some of you have been following my debate with Wedlock. I clearly don't fit this definition either. Now, you do have Blacks who believe their skin color and traits makes them the superior race and Whites inferior. Now this, is where the debate gets hot and heavy. Then the question is, is a person racist b/c they have power or not even if they hold their group to be superior to others based on skin color and traits. Therefore, using this defnition, if could be possible to call a Black person a racist against Whites if they fit the definition of 1) Having the belief that their are distinct races, and 2) They believe Whites are inferior. However, I don't believe in either one. In the end, in the definition I used about racism, I don't think that a Black person can ever be racist against a White person b/c we don't have control over the tools that promotes racism, we don't have the power, and we didn't start it. I truly believe, you just have Blacks who get so pissed, they feel if Whites can do it to me, then I am going to do it right back--retaliation. But then again, that is my opinion.

    Now, a person can exhibit prejudice against a White person or any person. Prejudice and racism is not the same. However, a racist can be prejudice. Also prejudice is having an irrational negative feeling or thought about a person or a group without having the facts to back it up. Making a negative prejudgment on a person or a group without getting to know the person or using stereotypes about a particular group that is based more on fiction than fact. You can be prejudice towards an ethnic group, or a religious sect. Prejudice can exist without skin color being involved. Also, referring, to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, prejudice--a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.

    Now, using this definition of prejudice, to state that my not being fond of White people, in general, is a form of prejudice, would be seriously wrong. There are many rational and justifiable reasons why a Black person would not be fond of White people as a group. Considering Slavery, Jim Crow, to the de facto segregation, and the continued existence of White supremacy and White privilege and the institutional discrimination that continues today. However, it would be prejudice on my part if on an individual basis, I was to judge a White person without giving them the benefit of the doubt, b/c I wouldn't know exactly how that White person thinks and act. In my case with dating men of color only, I don't make a preconceived judgement on the WM who approach me b/c I am simply just not thinking about them. I don't say in my mind he is racist or bigot or etc... WM are just "not my cup of tea", b/c I am just not that fond of White people, in general. It's a feeling of indifference and non-interest.

    Also, a person who is a bigot, does not make the person a racist. However a racist can be a bigot. Being bigoted means, again, referring to Merriam-Webster dictionary--one who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. Also, a bigot could be a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

    Now, using this definition, I am strongly partial to my own ethnic group's men or other men of color, and I am partially intolerant of a WM's advances towards me. However, just being intolerant of other people, in general, due to religion, race, and politics is definitely not accurate. I am not going to mistreat you or not deal with you as an associate or a friend or disrespect you as family b/c you are different from me. Also, being intolerant of other people's point of views would be inaccurate. I have strong opinions, but I do hear the other side out and I will still treat you with respect and not hate. The only reason I would treat you with disrespect and express anger is if you disrespect me and express anger first. I would say, I am intolerant and bigoted against hate speech against a particular group of people, racial slurs, and put downs.

    Peace.
     
  13. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    jeverage...did you not learn anything yesterday? leave it alone...let it go...or this thread like the other thread will end up in lock down...
     
  14. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    No, she can't stop.
    If she would stop, her presence on this board would lose it's purpose.
     
  15. Ronja

    Ronja New Member

    "So they say"? Whom?

    I've never read that before.

    You can belong to a minority, and still be a racist. Which dictionary said otherwise? Wikipedia has many definitions, and none says it's only the dominants in a society who can be racists.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

    There's a clip on u-tube of Kamau Kambon, a black guy who wanna kill all white people. Watch the clip, and then tell me blacks can't be racists!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMOkDOXAovQ

    P.S The comments on the begining of the video, are also racists. The clip is probably put out there by some white-pride guy. But what Kambon is saying though, is unedited. And he's just as racist as any KKK-member.

    And for the record, nothing on the clip is my personal opinion :D
     
  16. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member


    Black "racists", though scary to the average White, are toothless dogs when the full might of White socioeconomic and military power is brought to bear on them. Case in point: the Black Panthers, Early Malcom X, and any movement for organization and consolidation of power in Black community...here or worldwide versus CIA, FBI, ect.

    Which Black country has nukes? South Africa doesn't count.

    Check out China.
    No one "fucks" with them (one must also consider why the need/neccesity to "fuck" with them or vice-versa).

    Let Nigeria try some shit...BAM! economic sanctions to soften them up and then military action. But...the possession of a nuke changes all that.

    Which country has the richest and most vibrant ecomony? Is it a Black one? I doubt it.


    What's more scary is a White racist in the position to affect all areas of your life.
     
  17. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    Nuclear Nigeria - I dey fear o!
     
  18. designer

    designer New Member

    While I think all people can be racist, I think we are talking about individual racism vs. institutional racism.

    A person who views you as a problem may or may not have the ability to do much of anything however once likeminded people come together and organize their beliefs through laws, rules, procedures, protocols and such we move to a power that’s harder to overcome.

    This is why some people believe that people without institutional power cannot be racist.
    I don’t believe you need power to be a racist but the ruling class of any society has the power to institutionalize their hopes, fears and beliefs, which can and in some cases has all but wiped out those whom they fear and hate.
     
  19. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member

    :lol: I'm scared of the thought too, Tash. Imagine a Nigerian overseeing 10 nukes and selling 5 for a "deal", or "loosing" the codes to 3 of them, or...I could go on.

    It's conditoning to think the worst of Nigerians sha... :oops:

    But, I think we'd be pretty careful with such power.
     
  20. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    If a Nigerian was told to set the nukes off at 5, he'd arrive at 6.30, bribe someone to remind him of the codes, chop some fufu then set them off around 8.
     

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