banning too thin

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Apr 5, 2015.

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  1. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    ^^^but it's relying on the bmi grid, not the actual health of the woman. That's a huge problem in and of itself imo. While this law isn't outright shaming, I think it's perfectly plausible that thin little girls will feel shamed as a result of it (just as overweight girls would feel if the law was going to the other spectrum).

    That's the sad part of all this. People ignore or look the other way when attempts are made to shame thin women's bodies but are fast as lightning to jump on the bandwagon when overweight people are shamed. I'd never support a law shaming and excluding either group of people. I have friends who exercise fiercely and still have extra meat on their bones, and I have friends who eat and eat and eat and just can't gain weight. I also have a friend who suffers from bulimia. Her issues have ZERO to do with advertisements and everything to do with the environment she was raised in. I'm all for helping those who struggle with eating disorders, but creating a law that is based on the bmi grid and excluding women from work based on that chart is nothing short of insane.
     
    RaiderLL, Apr 6, 2015
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  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Saved me the trouble thanks
     
    The Dark King, Apr 6, 2015
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  3. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I agree that basing people's health status solely on their BMI is faulty at best, but there's more involved in this issue than that. More than anything it's about awareness, and trying to make health and safety a priority in an industry where it's been severely lacking.

    Once again, this topic is not about weight shaming. While I do think the threat of jail time is extreme, I have no issue with designers and agencies being held accountable for mistreating and putting their employees health and safety at risk.
     
    Tamstrong, Apr 6, 2015
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  4. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I do appreciate the steps that the COUNCIL of FASHION DESIGNERS of AMERICA has taken to address and create awareness on the healthy model issue with their CFDA Health Initiative.

    About:

    In January 2007, the CFDA formed a health initiative to address what has become a global fashion issue: the overwhelming concern about whether some models are unhealthily thin, and whether or not to impose restrictions in such cases.

    Designers share a responsibility to protect women, and very young girls in particular, within the business, sending the message that beauty is health. While some models are naturally tall and thin and their appearance is a result of many factors, including genetics, youth, nutritional food, and exercise, other models have or develop eating disorders. Although we cannot fully assume responsibility for an issue that is as complex as eating disorders and that occurs in many walks of life, the fashion industry can begin a campaign of awareness and create an atmosphere that supports the well-being of these young women.

    Working in partnership with the fashion industry, medical experts, nutritionists, and fitness trainers, the CFDA formed a committee to propose a series of positive steps designed to promote wellness and a healthier working environment. We recognize that change will take time and are committed to industry-specific educational efforts, awareness programs, support systems, and evaluation and treatment options that advance our recommendations.

    GUIDELINES:

    -Educate the industry to identify the early warning signs in an individual at risk of developing an eating disorder.

    -Models who are identified as having an eating disorder should be required to seek professional help, and models who are receiving professional help for an eating disorder should not continue modeling without that professional’s approval.

    -Develop workshops for the industry (including designers, agents, editors, and models and their families) on the nature of eating disorders, how they arise, how we identify and treat them, and complications that may arise if left untreated.

    -Support the well-being of younger individuals by not hiring models under the age of sixteen for runway shows; not allowing models under the age of eighteen to work past midnight at fittings or shoots; and providing regular breaks and rest. (Consult the applicable labor laws found at www.labor.state.ny.us when working with models under sixteen.)

    -Supply healthy meals, snacks, and water backstage and at shoots and provide nutrition and fitness education.


    The CFDA Health Initiative is about awareness and education, not policing. Therefore, the committee does not recommend that models get a doctor’s physical examination to assess their health or body-mass index to be permitted to work. Eating disorders are emotional disorders that have psychological, behavioral, social, and physical manifestations, of which body weight is only one.

    The CFDA Health Initiative is committed to the notion of a healthy mind in a healthy body, and there cannot be one without the other. The industry is determined to foster a balanced approach to nutrition, recreation, exercise, work, and relationships.

    http://cfda.com/programs/cfda-health-initiative
     
    Tamstrong, Apr 6, 2015
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  5. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I agree. I applaud the desire to raise awareness but by using only the bmi chart to determine eligibility/exclusion, I think they're doing more harm than good. Excluding anyone based solely on weight is a very slippery slope and not something I can support. I think sometimes we're quick to put restrictions on media because of the potential influence it has on our kids instead of doing what really needs to be done which is actively parent and raise our kids to be free thinkers, not followers.

    I can understand where you're coming from and as someone who values health I appreciate their intent as you see it...I just think the law could be changed in a way to really reflect health, not weight (if that's truly the intent of the law).
     
    RaiderLL, Apr 6, 2015
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  6. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    :smt043

    How'd I miss this?! Dude Cherokee and I would run this shit like a boss! Fighting injustices while our mixed babies run all through the white house lol. That'll be the day :freehug::cool:
     
    RaiderLL, Apr 6, 2015
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  7. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Youre assuming security doesn't stop and frisk those little monsters first :p
     
    pettyofficerj, Apr 6, 2015
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  8. Cherok33

    Cherok33 Well-Known Member

    We got this, Babe!

    Lead by example and represent one love!

    They better NOT frisk my babies I will fight the first one!
     
    Cherok33, Apr 6, 2015
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  9. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    That's ok, they got a cell for you too....make you turn in that sista card real quick :p
     
    pettyofficerj, Apr 6, 2015
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  10. Cherok33

    Cherok33 Well-Known Member

    I'll be on the next episode of scandal
     
    Cherok33, Apr 6, 2015
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  11. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    I don't watch it.....but I guess that means some shit would pop off :D
     
    pettyofficerj, Apr 6, 2015
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  12. Cherok33

    Cherok33 Well-Known Member

    It means one of us may have an affair with the POTUS

    OR

    one of us would be assassinated

    OR

    Kidnapped

    P.S. If I am kidnapped please put on a nice, white tight wife beater with your muscles bulging out and save me in some dramatic rescue scene
     
    Cherok33, Apr 6, 2015
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  13. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    This is going to be another one of those moments were im left speechless :smt054
     
    pettyofficerj, Apr 6, 2015
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  14. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member


    THIS^^ all of it...I think the other thing that happened here is no one read the article...this is FRANCE people...the land of haute couture...the french are so much more fasionable than americans...very body conscious culture

    Reading first and then responding should be required on this forum:confused:
     
    lippy, Apr 6, 2015
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  15. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    and THIS^

    keep in mind that this law is about the fashion industry and modeling...it has been put into place to save lives...change the thinking with young models trying to get into the business...it shouldn't be about starving yourself to get work or remain relevant in the industry
     
    lippy, Apr 6, 2015
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  16. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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    pettyofficerj, Apr 6, 2015
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  17. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    you are going to need a few of those people that can't READ:butthead:
     
    lippy, Apr 6, 2015
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  18. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    bull shit.....there has been plenty of articles about thin shaming.

    https://www.yahoo.com/style/the-skinny-on-skinny-shaming-101432073538.html

    you just see what you want.

    when it comes to this forum....you guys confuse telling the truth and being nasty . theres plenty of posts on how nasty people here can get.

    turn a good discussion to crap.

    the real discussion is really about standards of beauty and health.

    they called michelle obama fat....is she?

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5672382

    kim k...is she fat? they have said that.


     
    goodlove, Apr 6, 2015
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  19. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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    pettyofficerj, Apr 6, 2015
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  20. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    oh no you didnt......
     
    goodlove, Apr 6, 2015
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