Babies, Mellenials, Generation X and life

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by archangel, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    I got it off of this boxing/cage fighting show my brother was watching (something about knockouts or knockouts something) and I stole it. :D Cuz it tickles me.
     
  2. scott1618

    scott1618 Active Member

    In my 20's now and no kids but definitely want to in the future. Kids aren't a toy novelty that you should want just to fit in. They are a major responsibility. To raise them properly it takes a level of financial and emotional security that some people never reach at all regardless of age.
     
  3. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    +1

    Rep added. Very, very good and succinct post. They are most definitely NOT a toy novelty and it pains me to think that people can view them as something along those lines. Ugh.
     
  4. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    I probably won't have kids until I'm 45.
     
  5. babybro

    babybro New Member

    I'm in my early 20's, and no kids now but I don't think I'll have any kids. The reason being is no offense to individuals who have kids, but a lot of times I often seen the relationship strain between husband and wife due to kids. Often the wife pays so much attention to the kids that the husband rarely receives any attention from the wife. Plans are often cancelled, it's very difficult to do surprise wine and dines. You can't place rose peddles around the house, give your wife a massage in the bath tub, and continue down the romantic path if the kids are home, so you have to be lucky or hopeful that you can find a relative or baby sitter to watch them, and if not than your screwed. And if you are the type of person that likes to wine and dine your lady a lot, it's even worse.

    My biological brother right now is married and he currently cannot stand his marriage. He feels like the only he does is bring home the bacon and spend time with the kids. His relationship with his wife is literally non-existent. Whenever he wants or tries to do something with her, she either doesn't want to do it because she wants to stay around the kids or she wants to bring the kids along. Alone time between the two is impossible. Not only that but it's getting worse cause my brother is a rather handsome guy, a loyal and kind guy, but a handsome guy. So often he's getting approach by women who actually has interest with him, and every time it happens, it makes it more and more difficult to turn them down. He said he has tried talking to her numerous times about it but she constantly admits that her number 1 priority is the kids and thus their relationship has comes distant to what needs to be done.

    My advice to him was to get a divorce, because with this continuing, it's only a matter of time before he cheats on her, and that's not going to be good for both parties. At least with divorce, either she finally realize she's going to lose him, or he can finally find someone whose actually interested in him. And this is a common occurrence. I've seen many other problems that happens within romantic relationships because of kids so for me, I just don't want anyway.
     
  6. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    I'm a Gen X'er and I wanted to have kids in my 20s, but it didn't happen that way. As soon as I meet someone fitting for the job, I'm poppin them out.
     
  7. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    ?

    The World Is My Oyster = Gen Y in a nutshell
     
  8. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

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    :smt024
     
  9. babybro

    babybro New Member

    :confused:
     
  10. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    See I didn't like the way he is making us millennials out. Most of us can't find the jobs and it isn't exactly our fault the economy went to crap. If any thing, we are learning how some of the generations before us are screwing things up. We just got to roll with the punches and not make the same mistakes when we get into power. :smt018
     
  11. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    LOL....
     
  12. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    I don't mean Economically at all actually. I'm not even talking about socially.

    But what I DO have a problem with and what is effecting Europe as we speak is the overabundance of Individualism. The phrase "The World Is Your Oyster" is a care-free attitude towards social norms especially around procreation and marriage.

    Many X'ers and Y's are products of broken homes. My mother has been married three times and divorced twice, that has not soured my feelings on marriage or having children. Quite the contrary I believe I can do BETTER!

    If your 30 and still unsure you want to have children because it would prevent you from enjoying your life, its all likelihood you'll never have children. Sighting silly shit like we're already overpopulated, well there's plenty of reasons for that, the least being more Americans aren't having children. In fact, its been going down for 30 years. It was 2.2 children in 1980, last time I checked it was 2.1 and for some cultures its dropped below that.

    I wouldn't call these people selfish, having children is a very personal choice and should be respected as much as not having children.

    I'm just saying there's a social price to pay for not procreating.

    Aging workforce, less skilled labor, skyrocketing health care cost. By limiting child birth in a modern economy like Japan has resulted in what I just mention. Same goes for much of Western Europe.

    As I have mentioned before, there are countries encouraging child birth and marriage. It has little to do with religion and much more to do with Macro Economics.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2010
  13. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Why you laughing? Its an overture, if you're not interested, fine.
     
  14. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    You gave things that are not really well connected from limiting child birth. An aging workforce is there due to medical and technology advances. It has nothing to do with having children except for the children that made the advances. Less skilled labor is subjective. It depends on what labor you are talking about. With a larger population comes a higher health care cost. This is going to be the case for china and India once they start to adapt a public health care system. I have yet to be in a country that does not encourage child birth. Even china encourages but just not having 10 kids. Countries where people have 10 kids usually do so because a lot of the children will not survive. The inflation rate would be too costly to raise 10 to 20 kids in almost any country comfortably.
     
  15. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Its all connected. When I say skilled labor I mean -

    Germany needs 150,000 Engineering over the next 10 years. Staying in Germany, fewer and fewer people are opting for hard skills like welding, and mechanical engineering.

    "Danish Positive List". Denmark is one of a few countries actively looking for qualified immigrants for qualified skilled labor.

    I also did site health care cost and ageing population. But the reason of that is not only just increase health care cost, but longer in the work force (past 60) because of a lack of talent to take your place. This is an acute problem in Japan, you can Google it.

    The point is, there is a trend in America and in most Western Cultures far removed from the 3rd World, Developing Nation status that its almost not cool to have kids. Its even worst to get married in some circles. No marriage, No Kids. I already showed an example of women getting artificial insemination. Its technology only now available to women making close to 6 digits. Just like plastic surgery has become commonplace for even middle to lower middle income people, advanced birth/child bearing techniques will all but eliminate the "middle man" in most situations.

    Just as White Men in Europe fear Muslims taking over the population (again due to lack of children being born) I fear we'll be a Nation of mostly Women looking much like the anime Vandred....
     
  16. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    This is confusing because if they need more engineers then they would want mechanical engineers! also note to self: I am an engineer and germany may need me!

    There is plenty of talent. Those old people just don't know when their time is up. Back in the day, They would have died by now(no offense to them). Now because of these technologies, they don't know when to quit especially in congress. Some of these people are too old to understand the modern people. They are, in my opinion holding the usa back.

    Most women making 6 digits will still not go that route. Is it really a bad thing to be in a nation full of women? I've always wished to be the only man on a planet full of women. I'll take the next best thing. A nation. This is like the sliders episode or futrama.
     
  17. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    People play around and flirt all the time, my fault.

    I don't think we'd be compatible, but I'm flattered nonetheless. Thank you.
     
  18. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Vandred is based on a nation (entire colony) of Men and of Women on another. Procreation happens in test tubes, the men have men only, the women use some form of insemination and modified DNA coding. That way they have natural child birth but the couples are made up of what could be called a typical Lesbian relationship.

    Now having SAID that, its fiction. But you can already sell elements in Western Culture moving that direction. First its having a family is almost 100% optional, then it will be eliminating men from the picture all together.

    See I don't see The Gay being a threat at all, Social Conservatives and Evangelicals can jump off a tall building IMHO. What I do see as a threat is individualism and narcissism in the near term, when I'm 70 I won't care but to say its not having an impact on my social life would be foolish at best.
     
  19. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

  20. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    when wasn't having a family optional? Like I say doing nothing is always an option!
     

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