Another feud in NY State

Discussion in 'In the News' started by DudeNY12, Jul 31, 2017.

  1. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Long history of upstate NY, and downstate (NYC area) hating each other. Then, the ongoing Governor/(NYC) Mayor feud, and now... NYSP/NYPD

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/trooper-arrest-sparks-call-payback-nypd-article-1.3370367

    A ticked-off New York State trooper declared “open season” on NYPD cops after the drunken-driving arrest of a fellow trooper in the Bronx, according to text messages obtained by the Daily News.

    The messages were sent after police arrested Trooper Dana Narvaez early Friday morning.

    Cops found Narvaez passed out at the wheel of his running car outside his Pelham Bay home, authorities said, and when he was given a Breathalyzer test, he blew more than double the legal limit.

    “OK. It’s official. Open season on NYPD members,” the texts read, naming the arresting officer.

    NYPD gets threats over cuffing trooper for driving drunk in Bronx

    Officers from the 45th Precinct have also gotten calls from people claiming to be state troopers seeking retaliation, police sources said.

    Narvaez, who was released without bail at his arraignment Friday, did not return messages seeking comment.
     
  2. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Officers acting like gang members above the law, not surprised.
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    This is just plain sad but maybe this will teach everyone that blue wall shit ain't the way to go.
     
  4. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    That's NYPD's M.O.

    Truth! It could get very interesting as the trooper has no leg to stand on.
     
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  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So why are the NYPD issuing a check they can't cash. This cop or anyone for that matter, should have been issued a warning and told to go inside their home and sleep it off. The NYPD were being spiteful because if it was an NYPD cop he'd have been escorted ito his door.

    The Trooper will get this pled down or off altogether. (As it should be)
     
  6. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I disagree. DWI by NYPD officers (and other police officers) has been a serious problem in the NYC area for years. Many cases of fatal accidents in the NYC area in which drunken police officers were involved. I won't be suprised if the trooper gets off or gets a wrist slap just because police officers walk more often than not. It's good that the trooper managed to get home without incident, but it's still a problem.
     
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You beat me to it. It's considered drunk driving even if you're not technically driving since the keys were in the ignition.
    And the fact you're law enforcement doing this shit should come with heavier sentence since you know better.
     
  8. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Agreed! Police officers (at least in the US) are rarely held accountable. They're the law enforcement officers (which they're quick to state), but these sworn LEOs actually get held to lesser standard than anyone else.
     
  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Doesnt matter if it's been a problem, this man was home. Unless they were following him, they have no proof if he was about to leave, or just arrived. Or sleeping it off in his car because his wife was angry that he was drunk in the house. Car running could mean air-conditioner was needed. He was home and in park.
    Why arrest him?
     
  10. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    My understanding is that in the position that the trooper swas discovered... He absolutely could be charged with DWI. In fact a close friend who's an attorney once told me that if I ever found myself too drunk to drive home, and found it necessary to stay in my car... The best course of action would be to remove keys from ignition, place them in their pocket, and sit in the back seat of the car.

    Also... I think the fact that it's a problem totally matters. In this day where we're seeing stepped up enforcement for the obvious reason... Sure he was in front of his house, but the reality is that he's in the car, engine running, and drunk.
     
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  11. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    The guy broke the law and the NYPD cop did his job. Now suspend the dudes license and put him on desk duty. Movie stars don't even get breaks on DWI's neither should he.

    Fued or not. Break the law go to jail. The troopers are just showing their true colors. A bunch of entitled cry baby wanna be tuff guys.
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Because car on means driving because vehicle can be driven.
    Interesting how your tune changes Ms. Law and Order
     
  13. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    I know someone that was at a gas station in Tampa waiting for it to open. He was drunk at the wheel, and sleep, the car was off and the tire was flat, not even driveable. He still got a DUI for that shit.

    Long night of partying.

    If you're drunk, cut the car off and get in the back seat period. That's the only safe bet.

    That cop knew that but felt entitled.
     
  14. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    If he was driving in the street, l would understand. But he was home. Did they really have to arrest him and destroy his career? A stern warning, hell even a yell...

    BTW, I am the first to denounce drunk drivers...it's been a huge disgust to me for decades..
    In this case, while l abhor what he did (if he was returning home and not leaving home), most people should be given a warning and not arrested if they are sleeping in their car outside their home. C'mon.

    Fyi, did you know the advice your attorney friend gave you is a crime in many cities. It's called " public camping" and is finable or community service, but no jail time.
    So here we have PSA's telling us to pull over if we are tired or intoxicated, but it's against the law to do so. Damned if you do, right? So know that sleeping et al, in your car will get you in legal trouble, lol.

    It's not unlike now the law is, if you have an expired tag car in your back driveway, a cop can come onto your property and ticket you.
    Ever warmed up your car in the morning in your driveway?
    Again, in some States, a cop can come onto your property and ticket you. It's against the law to warm up your car or run into a store with your car running.

    Anyway, lm digressing but the bottom line is, they didn't have to arrest him and ruin his career, but they did. That's why it's 'open season' now on NYPD because best believe no more reciprocal courtesy will be extended to them any longer.
     
  15. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I am law and order. Issue a warning for public camping, by all means. But arrest him for DRIVING while under the influence? He wasn't driving. He was sleeping.
     
  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Well l'm sure he. could have had that DUI thrown out with a good lawyer. Sure, he could have gotten a public intoxication citation, but he wasn't driving. No proof he was.
     
  17. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Read the law.

    Or take the easy way out, just ask Loki then disagree with him
     
  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I see absolutely no reason why this officer shouldn't be held accountable for his nonsense.
    Every other citizen would not get a warning they'd be expected to know better. Why shouldn't They?
    Justice for all not some right?
     
  19. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Cops do give warnings sometimes but not for DUI's. That shit is serious.

    Paul Mooney:

    Diana Ross gets pulled over:

    Diana: Do you know who I am.

    Cop: A drunk bitch.
     
  20. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Stop being a smartass @ your Loki comment.
    Is he a criminal DUI attorney?

    Yeah Beasty, l know the law, it's VTL 1192, (write that down, Mr Vigilante), but it isn't always applied. It's called using one's discretionary powers. Ok?
    Did the State Trooper have to pull over Sandra Bland for failing to signal a lane change while he was up her ass driving? No, he could have let that slide. But not if you ( amd TDK) had any say in it.

    Again, he wasn't DRIVING, but got hit with a DUI by asshole NYPD cops, anyway. If I'm his lawyer, l'm going to argue every reason imaginable why his car was running, in particular that he could have suffered Hyperthermia if the air wasn't running in NYC's sweltering heat. Same for Hypo if it was during winter..

    'New York Courts have carved out an exception to the operation element of the law. If you turn on your car for the sole purpose of staying warm, the courts say that you have a defense to the charge of DWI.'
     

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