A step back for sure for women & blacks.

I know ya'll have been hearing this....It is reported that tens of thousands of women(mostly white) would vote for John Mccain if hillary doesn't win no matter if she does become barac obama's running mate and it is all because of the sexism she is facing. To me it is almost like them saying it is black people's fault.

here is one of the many stories behind this story:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/women-threaten.html

Not to bag women (SO don't take it that way.) But when blacks face racism we respond to it strong and as we should, we can't help that hillary and women backing hillary is not responding to sexism as strong as blacks will respond to racism....Again I say it is like they are saying this is barac's and black people's fault, instead of it being misogynist' fault.
Why should barac fight hillary's battles for her...He can lend his support, but we(blacks) aint never told hillary to fight racism for us, we did it ourselves.

This is showing weakness to me and if(even though it most definetly won't) that falls through don't these women realize that our(women&blacks) shot to get in the white house at the 2 top positions is a goner. :roll:

 

Point blank that is a shit excuse, America is just not ready for a black president plain and simple.

 

That site made my laptop freeze. I tried to read it 4 times. Didn't work

 

Barack and Hillary have faced unfair criticism....

In the surveys that asked people if race mattered in their vote....the voters that said race did matter voted for Hillary at a rate of 7 out of 10 (mostly in Appalachia)

When people voted and said that gender affected their decision...she received about 6 out of 10 of those votes.....in other words she was helped a little by gender and he was hurt (a little) by race.

He's never used race as a reason for why he lost Ohio, Pennsylvania, Kentucky or West Virginia. It would have been dumb for him considering he won Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Maine, Kansas etc. (states not known for their diversity).

She lost because he out-organized her. He had a 50 state strategy and prepared as if he was running the mile run....she prepared as if she was running the 400 meter dash....she blazed through the first quarter of the race but ran out of gas after the opening lap. He dominated the 2nd and 3rd lap...and she's made a furious sprint at the finish in the last 100 meters...but it's too late.....he's striding to the finish.


She had 52% of the black vote and twice as much cash on hand as he did as recently as December of '07.....now he garners about 90% of the black vote and while she's around 10-20 million in debt....he still has about 37 million dollars in cash on hand. He won as much as she lost but there was no third party that came in and altered the result. The implication that it was "taken away" from her makes me believe she thought the nomination belonged to her from the start. Many Americans may have agreed with her...but one man didn't....Barack Obama....and that is what decided this nomination.

 

i remember that detail...

the one about her having access to more cash than barack...

funny how the tables turn so easily


i'm glad to see him doing so well tho...

gives me hope for future elections

 

Agreed!!!
And she needs to really be careful with "PLAYING" and I do mean "Playing" the victim of sexism, because it is not a good look for women around the country. Hillary is a strong woman and that is very well known, so for her to play a role of victim is doing no good. The reason it would be different if that man with the sign would have held up an "SHINE MY SHOES" Sign is because black people don't be victims of racism anymore, we fight and knock racism on it's behind.
So those very niave women need to really see that and know that hillary in a sense is really playing them, because she is a fighter(obviously.) and
know victim, she is letting the media get away with it on purpose and shame on her because it is not doing no good for the entire democratic party.

 

Where were those naive women when Shirley Chisholm was running in 72? Nowhere. Now Hillary is using the RFK controversy days before the 40th anniversary of his assassination. She had apologized to the Kennedy family not to Obama.

 

cant believe i am saying anything good about Hillary, but i believe she is rght

 

she's been the victim of sexism....but she's trying to make it seem as if she's losing because of it...you can't enter a race with all of the advantages....not to mention that one of her chief strategists was on the Democratic committee that decided the order of the different primary contests.....the nomination was tailor made for her to clinch in February...

I've never heard Obama blame the problems he's had with "working class white voters" on racism....if he said anything like what Hillary is saying, his campaign would be over

 

He blamed it on working class whites in rural areas that "cling to God and Guns" when times are tough and not voting for him

 

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of
small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years
and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton
administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive
administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna
regenerate and they have not.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or
religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-
immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their
frustrations." - Barack Obama


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I don't think he's chastising them for not voting for him....he's expressing how he thinks they feel (though he did it in a very inartful way).

These remarks didn't cost him votes though. Had it happened 6 months ago it would have but at this point...people know who they are going to vote for...anyone that pretends these remarks forced them to switch their decision is only using this to provide cover for their vote. Considering 33% of Americans still think he's a Muslim (the real question should be...why is that such a problem?)...I can think of other reasons for a "switch"