A Black man Begging McCain

Much, if not most of what you're saying makes sense, and I have heard many economic pundits say exactly the same, so with that, I must say that between the two of us, I'll concede that you may be the authority on the particulars of our current economic conditions, and it's eventual outcome(s). The tough road before us does not make me anymore comfortable whether we have Obama, or McCain in office, but still, I tend to lean on the side of conservatism, over liberalism with regards to what I believe is best for me, and my interests, unless proven otherwise. If Obama wins, then we'll just have to see.

Thanks.

 

Well, I may disagree with Conservatives on the extent of taxation, but I agree with fiscal Conservatives (real ones, not frauds like W. and company) about limited spending. Clinton and the Republican Congress in the 1990s did a pretty damn good job with the "pay as you" system. We need to see a return to that ideology and methodology ASAP.

 

If I heard Obama make mention to that kind of governing, then I'm on the Obama bandwagon tomorrow, even with an Obama/Biden sign posted in my front yard. Well, maybe not. lol. Let me know if he makes mention to this kind of governing philosophy, will ya. But if I remember correctly, I do believe Clinton had balanced the budget by the end of his second term. Outstanding!

 

Sorry. I've been busy. That's why I'm answering you now. Yes the war was disastrous. But do you think the sanctions were a cake walk? Thousands of Iraqis died every year because the US and British governments decided what could come into the country. There were things like medical supplies, foods, and the so on. Don't sit here and claim that Clinton/Gore were so humanitarian

I think politicians will do anything to get elected and stay in office. They will reward their friends and punish their enemies. That is what every President has done for a long time. That's what Bush has done and that's what Gore would've done. Why you think this only applies to politicians you dislike is beyond me

Gore wouldn't have cared any more about the constitution that Bush. Do you think Gore would have spoke out or done anything about the Drug War? Would he have ended sanctions against Cuba, who has never attacked us? Would he all of the sudden kept to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, which spells out the powers of the Federal government? Gore believes that the government is the answer to our problems, which is in conflict with our Constitution, the one that Bush disreguards and the one that you claim to care about so much about.

How do you know that? How do you know what Gore would have done on 9/11? Hell, when Bush was running, he said he didn't believe in nation-building. He said he wanted a humble foreign policy. Well, we see where that went.

No. We're seeing what happens when there's so much government involvment, even way before the bailouts, businesses wanna get in on the action. Shit. In this administration, everyone in the country and the world has their hand out for our tax dollars. Government love spending money

 

Well thank you for that sir. You are very correct. All any of us can do is speak our minds on the issues

 

Well first off, I'm 17 and admittedly naive on these topics of business taxation, and money management, but I have to say that I'm unsure as to how you can be certain that Mccain's fiscal policies will help Americans in a way that Obamas' won't. As far as I've seen in both their debates and in their campaign speeches, neither candidate has convincingly suggested let alone explicated their plan of seeking tax alleviation for business owners. If you can support Mccain's economic policies with the conviction you demonstrate with the tone of your posts, can you provide evidence that any one of the bills signed by Mccain in the last 22 years has drastically effected taxpayers for the better? I have neither a business to run nor a purely self-serving motive to vouch for the policies of either candidate so I do believe that my decision will be influenced less by a single issue than by everything from the war to healthcare put together.

IMO, Mccain's voter alignment with Bush 91% of the time allows me to believe that on the 9% occasion that both he and Bushs' opinions diverged, economic policies weren't a factor in the equation... and Mccain's feeble attempt at pandering to the few disenfranchized Hillary voters with his VP pick might strengthen his base of God-fearers, but it sequesters any independent women who believes that the first female VP in American History should be able to speak lucidly enough to not have her SNL counterpart literally quote her interviews line by line and pull it off hilariously. There is a pretty broad line between charisma and coherence and the latter isn't exactly a "task to pass".

 

Ive never been on the fence as to which party I was gonna vote for. After "w" and reagan (h.w. was ok) it makes me ill to even considering voting for a republican president. Ive never liked mccain's voting record on issues that as a black man are important to me.

But if I was an undecided voter, one thing that would definitely sway me towards Obama would be his interview with bill o'reilly.

If you want to true see what a politician is made of, make him stand toe to toe and answer questions from one of his most critical objectors. Obama had the nerve to go on fox news and give o'reilly an interview. (And Biden is a regular on meet the press and other neutral political programs.) Why? Because I feel Obama (nor Biden) have anything to hide.

Mccain would never have the balls to go on msnbc and give Keith Olberman an interview. He hides in his town-hall meetings in some of the most conservative voting districts in the country. "You have the conservative vote, dumb-*ss, you need to go out and try to get the independents!" (Yeah, right.)

And palin needs to stay as far away as possible from any person who is remotely intelligent and might possibly stick a microphone in her face. I have no idea how conservatives can continue to lie to themselves and say this lady is ready for the "big leagues."

Tell me, if you have an international business and you have an opening for your "right-hand man" do you pick the head janitor because he manages the custodial budget and doesnt order too much mop-n-glo?

No! You pick one of two people...the person in the company with the most all around experience or you pick the smartest person in the company!

Mavericks my *ss!

 

Ok.. you are undoubtedly a stauncher and more partial conservative than I thought. Ascribing Gore's presidency to "would ifs" and "could haves" is a common tool in the Republican pundit's arsenal of blame and fingerpointing. When your party's allegation against Clinton for the Iraq war failed miserably they resorted to silly broad-based claims that liberals were soft on war and crime in order to wriggle their way out of the '04 election. After they cheated for the win the world began to realize that a war mongering president was the LAST thing we needed so now self-righteous and media intoxicated conservatives like yourself are trying to switch the clock back 8 years in a none too subtle attempt to water down the mismanagement of the current administration by comparing it to and downgrading an administration that NEVER EXISTED. Nice try but thank god you're not convincing anyone.

 

I'm not a conservative. I'm not a Republican either. "My party" didn't do anything to Clinton. And I don't know what Gore would've done on 9/11, but neither do you. That's my point. You assume everything would have been great because you support him. And even if something would've went wrong you would still support him. You're no different than the Bush supporters.

 

Good Post!

I agree with you on the character of Obama. He shows exceptional fortitude, which is no less than admirable. I Just need a bit more clarity on his fiscal plans, as it will affect me, not that McCain is a great choice either, rather I'm fairly disgusted with him completely.

Good to see ya Jelly.

 

What I really wanna know is would this "man" have gone completely out of his way to do all of this blatant ass-kissing to John McCain if Barack Obama was just another white guy running as a democrat for president?

Somebody please tell me.

 

Tony I say no to that.

 

Everybody and his mother knows the McLame/Barracuda ticket is no match for Obama/Biden. Even staunch conservatives are are totally embarrassed at what the Republicans are peddling. It's rather sad when folks refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Here's what William F. Buckley Jr.'s son has to say:

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/12/a-buckley-for-obama/

The son of William F. Buckley has decided—shock!—to vote for a Democrat.

Let me be the latest conservative/libertarian/whatever to leap onto the Barack Obama bandwagon. It’s a good thing my dear old mum and pup are no longer alive. They’d cut off my allowance.

Christopher Hitchens had to switch as well:

http://www.slate.com/id/2202163/

Vote for ObamaMcCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is simply a disgrace.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Oct. 13, 2008

 

That guy seems so fake and phony. Those rallies seem more like Klan gatherings if anything. I read one black man (part of the media) was showered with racial epithets by those mobs. Don't see how anyone black could overlook those outrageous and deadly insults. Many whites are ashamed this open secret is on full display as of late.

 

Porcelainsnowbird,

As most white people say, maybe this black man it "One of the good ones".

 

Not only is Obama much smarter, he's also a better choice for the world.

 

Well, white people who attend klan rallies usually says, "the only good black man, is a dead black man."

 

Yeah - Ron Paul is going to ADMIT to being a white nationalist which would increase his chances of winning an election!...

Pull your head out of your ass and LOOK at the obvious! If Paul was to ever become president, you can bet that white nationalist would start seeing things going their way!

Coincidence?

 

Okay. Very few people are going to admit that they are racist. You think he is. I don't think he is. We're just gonna have to leave it at that

I don't care about white nationalists. I do care about Ron Paul's issues. That's what matters to me. Ron Paul should not stop speaking out on those issues just because a few bigots may agree with some of what he's saying. Should Barack Obama stop running for President because Louis Farrakhan thinks he's the best hope for America? Or because William Ayers donated to his campaign?

 

Like I said above, Dex, Ron Paul is irrelevant. You're like a child, you think if you close your eyes and wish hard enough, people will actually care about him. The only people more pitiful are the six people still hanging on to Ralph Nader. :-D Well, sorry. Your man's finished. Barack's the man to beat this year whether you want to accept it or not. He is the story. I know it's frustrating for you, but deal with it.