Random Conversation 2.0

I totally get what you're saying. I'd never have (nor want) sex that wasn't desired by both of us! Maybe we're still in the honeymoon phase, or maybe Im just the small minority, either way I'm here to please him. That in and of itself pleases me. Took him a loooong time to believe that lol but it's 100% true. If he weren't in the mood, that's perfectly ok. Him not being in the mood to touch me but he'll step outside our room to watch porn and jack off...Id be a little butt hurt. That's just me though.

 

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This. All. Day. Call me selfish, but I want it all. If I'm ready and willing whenever his heart desires, I see no reason he would choose to satisfy himself instead of allowing me the honors. I truly don't get some of the confusion by the men here.

 

I'm not saying you only get off twice a week total. I'm saying if you're having sex AND jacking off. It was my experience that him jacking off when we weren't together diminished his volume for when we were. Lol.

 

Same thing I was hinting at Samson said it:

Sometimes you just need to sleep well.

It's simply not practical to wake up your SO just so you can bust a 5min nut for the sole purpose of getting back to sleep. If she happens to be awake and catch you jacking off, why should it be an issue, its just nut and sleep that we are talking about here.

Just because you are willing to help doesn't mean that it's practical or makes sense to do so at the time.

It's usually a bad idea to trouble someone in the middle of the night without at least making it worthwhile to them.

Broken sleep/rest often equates to a bad mood wheather you would like for it to or not.

 

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Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!!

 

Honestly I'm with the ladies here. I would feel a little bit offended if I were an option but he opted to jerk off. I don't know if it's because I'm at my sexual prime, but I know it's not the honeymoon phase. I love having sex. I love waking up in the middle of the night and having surprise sex, and I love pleasing my man anytime, anywhere, and doing anything. If he opted to jerk off rather than be with me I would feel a little bit jealous and upset... if I woke up in the middle of the night and he was watching porn I would feel hurt. If I can't have sex for whatever reason I want to jerk him off or give them a blowjob that is my job to please him in every way sexually.

I think he probably feels the same way because when we fought once while he was with me, I have pulled out my vibrator and he got pissed.

Who doesn't like to have make up sex?!

 

Dude you're missing the point. It's not always about you or the relationship. Sometimes the goal is to nut and sleep that's it. Engaging in sex means you have to consider the other person. I just hate the idea that my satisfaction has to be sanctioned by another person or their feelings get hurt. Seriously talk about selfish.

 

Selfish because we want to be one to do for you!? How is that remotely selfish? If I'm not around then yeah, I do get it. I do it all the time. But if I'm there!? Every sexual encounter doesn't have to be a marathon session, their called quickies...

 

Selfish because you want to be the to do it or you'll be hurt. It's about control, you want to control the pleasure otherwise it's somehow a threat to you. You've been fed the ridiculous notion that you're suppose to be responsible for our pleasure and vice versa. It's great to share that stuff but for a lot of men it has very little to do with why we want you long term.

 

I believe this is when a lot of guys start caring less and get labeled as poor listeners ect.. Once you start to realize that she is gonna get offended or pissed off for one reason or another you can't help but become somewhat apathetic. Especially when its pretty much beyond your control. You can't help it if you are having a hard time sleeping while knowing you have a long day ahead and you can't handle your everyday business at 100% if you get upset simply because she is upset with you.

 

Pretty much
You can't out logic emotion lol

 

Men are from Mars

 

Some of us have different views on what sex was designed for. That it's not a recreational sport or a sleep aid.

 

But at least our views don't impose anything on you doesn't make you responsible for anything. Your view on the other hand does. Weird how love to some of you means obligation over pleasure or peace of mind.

 

Sex is more than an act of obligation for a woman. Sex is also about pleasure. Sex is personal and ignites the spark of love between two people to share that moment getting lost in them.

I see sex as the one special bond that only we share and breathes life into the relationship.

It's easy for a woman to get emotional about sex we are emotional creatures and sometimes it's just not for you to understand.

I'm not saying we cannot compromise and I'm only sharing my opinion

 

I hear you but why impose your emotions on someone else?
And I agree sex is intimate and great between two people but why do you feel the need to dictate when I feel that pleasure on my own. No one said masturbation in place of intimacy with your partner. Sometimes it's more about stress relief and relaxation. The only reason I'm going so hard is because I've had similar arguments with past girlfriends and just never understood why this is such a huge deal for women or what the solution is. Should I ask permission to pleasure myself or just never do it again? Do you see how ridiculous and selfish that may come off?

 

Jacking off is not sex and sleep is a physical need that supersedes sex. Its right up there with food and water. So according to Maslow's pyramid (usually learned in high school or freshman year of college) The philosophical, religious or personal belief for what the "design" is for is irrelevant; especially if it helps a person pratically and scientifically acquire the need.

 

I hear you and I can understand not wanting to wake her but I guess it depends on your relationship. When my guy has trouble sleeping, I'll either feel him toss and turn then wake up and start giving him head or he'll gently and sweetly wake me. He wakes for me when I can't sleep too. Women need that relaxation to get back to sleep too sometimes lol. sexual compatibility is critical in a relationship imo so it's a blessing that he and I see eye to eye on things lol.