No, there's an exemption for those of us living in big cities that don't allow that kind of breeding stock. Sure, no woman could ever feel as good as a nice, fat bottom sheep or a sqeelling mud hog, but what's a hate monger to do? We all have to make sacrifices. Okay, back to my nazi fun filled afternoon ...
Being that your very staunch on no means no in your first post and that sexual coercion is wrong, I was very curious to hear your opinion on this ex jailers situation. Do you think she was wrongfully jailed?
Wow! See, if this were not a prison situation, she could claim to have been coerced. That's what's giving me pause about that whole argument.
Talking a woman into sex? That is nonsense. If she is feeling it, and the guy is feeling it too, then, maybe. But, even if during a passionate kiss and heavy petting session, the woman has the final say because she let the relationship get to this stage and the guy should always be listening to her as opposed to his libido. Such interactions can be confused by the "She was wanting it" allegation and a lot can be miread in a kiss or a touch. I'd be happy with a passionate kiss and a heavy petting session. I think it is intimate enough. But that's me.
No. First of all, she violated the rules of her employment. Secondly, I saw no mention that she ever said no. She was seduced, not coerced. There's a difference.
no means no....nothing is wrong with cuddling and no sex.....but lets not say men dont talk themselves into sex and its wrong to do so. thats saying women dont have a mind and cant think for themselves. "talk the woman into sex" means he knows how to have a good convo. u dont want a man who could not carry a convo if it was in a bucket.
We aren't talking about her employment here. I'm quite sure she said "no I'm married, I can't, it's wrong" She didn't just throw herself at him.
If a woman says no, she means no. Stop trying to get more alcohol in her or just kissing her one more time to help her change her mind. And stop trying to wear her down. If she says no, leave it alone and let HER set the tone. Rape doesn't have to be violent to be rape. Date rape is rape, too.
But what if she doesn't mean no. Its not a singular monolithic female experience right? I get airing on the side of caution but I there is a huge difference between pushing for one last kiss and forceably holding someone down and raping them.
Seriously? If ANYONE says no, they mean no, and whoever is getting that no response should stop trying to do what they're doing. How hard is it to understand? We're all adults, right? If a woman or man says no, then they mean NO. End of story. FFS.
Shit like this is the very reason why men like to make excuses for their own lack of self-control and respect for boundaries. That is a fucked up thing only a misogynistic and incredulous rapist would say.
No matter how bad you want to fuck, always assume that her no means no. Al. Ways. If she says that she doesn't want sex then you have to respect that. It really is that simple.
Like others have stated before there are times when no is playful like for example "no it's too soon, I don't know" and from there all it takes is a kiss on the neck for innihibitions to disappear. Body language and tone count for a lot and not every single woman interacts in a robotic and formulaic way. You weren't made in a factor with the same exact settings so yes for you Bookworm whether playful or not soft toned or firm no absolutely all the times means no, but is it exactly the same thing for every woman with a xx chromosome. I've known and dated women who have rape fantasies are you like them in anyway? Not saying I would ignore a woman's wishes but I've had enough dating experience to know that its just not always true.
