Ok - cool. Although we're both agreed that it's not always determinable. Some people don't have the tone - just as you can't guess everyone's race by looking at them. When someone comes along that defies the expected, like Teena Marie, Adele, or, I don't know, Ben Harper or someone like that, they are just seen as "special"...
Awwww shit!! Bad Mamma Jamma is in the house today!! Hey there Lil' Ghetto Sounding White Lady!! :smt006
I think it's odd to think that any racial group collectively has the same likes and dislikes. (BTW, Muddy Waters, B.B. King, Sam Cooke, Robert Johnson, Billie Holliday...all huge favorites I still listen to, along with a whole slew of blues folks from the 20's on up, both black and white). And we seriously need a sarcasm font around here.
This is totally different. Saying "I don't like their music" and "they suck" Because up to this point other than personal tastes it seems as if you don't have a clear understanding of music. I'm still trippin' at the comparison between Teena Marie and Adele. And in this reply above you are all over the place. You might was well just kicked out of long list of artst you don' tlike because none of it made much sense... ...to me at least. But we all know how slow I am.
lol...i was wondering when it was decided that you had to be a certain colour or race to be able to sing and perform a certain genre. and i want that sarcasm font as well...sometimes i worry that my delicious sarcastic wit is being lost on some of the slower folk round here
You are rather slow... so maybe that will explain some of it. I think it's very important for people to remember that when you speak most genres of music in america...such as jazz...rock....rock n roll...folk...country...hip hop & even blue grass... they all have roots that trace back to black slave singers. Basically its all one and the same.... I find equal value in etta james...and al green as I do nwa & krs one.....black music is black music to me.
I don't disagree with any of what you wrote; however, you made a specific point and used a broad reference. Must popular music in the US does have roots in black music..........but it doesn't mean one can now call it black music. My confusion is with randomly selecting artists out of thin air and grouping them ad ad nauseum. Comparing Adele to Teena Marie (I simply can not let that go...its like comparing Justin Bieber to Prince), then you bounce around from Josh Stone, Amy Winehouse, to Alicia Keys...neither of which of comparable sounds. Then it was Meshell Ndegeocello and Chrisette Michelle and a couple more..., and just when it seemed you could not get any more random with Led Zeppelin, and follow it up with "Oh, Ymra, you are slow I just like black music" ..wait. what?!? No one is questioning your VALUE of music, I am suggesting you have a rudimentary understanding of music at best. ...yeah........slow I am, but up to this point you really haven't made much sense no matter the speed you choose to use.
Actually to be very honest, black musicians have begun to abandon traditional black R&B music. It simply does not sell and is not as popular with the general black public. Save for older groups, American blacks have full embraced Black Pop as our main musicale staple. R&B in the US now lacks, mature subject matter and has created and embraced the fantasy life of "G6 jets and everyone being millionaires" We still have the Rhythm, but we lost the blues. Many white and European artists have filled that. I have said before, if you want to see a glimpse of R&B and hip hop...go to London and Tokyo (yes Japan) ... ....or find you some small hole in the wall in TN, TX, or LA....for the most port BLACK music in America as we once knew it as been sold to the lowest bidder.
Which is a damned shame. Most hip hop to me is about as mature as bubble gum, and as sophisticated as a 5 year old in mama's shoes. But old R&B, and the blues??? Is music for the soul.
LOL - Maroon 5 does not sing "black music" - it's poppy and mainsteam as can be, and Sting doesn't doesn't sing "black music either, although some of his music is/was inspired by reggae (the Police) and blues/gospel/jazz, etc. - he is inspired by music from all over the world - Middle Eastern (as in "Desert Rose") as well as his own native English folk music. You don't get to claim ALL good music is "black music", even if a tiny bit of it was inspired by the original American black roots music. Music is ART, which is ALWAYS inspired by other artists, and is never a completely original thought.
And yet it seems, that some black people resent that some white people have embraced old R&B, soul, funk, and the classic artists. If you talk to a lot of young white musicians today, you will find that some of them listened heavily to Sam Cooke, Marvin Gay, Al Green, Muddy Waters, Ella Fitzgerald, Dizzy Gillespie, Cole Porter, Count Basie, Billie Holiday, just to name a few... Why would black people resent that so much when they don't even listen to it in the first place? If it weren't for public radio and the interest of white and European people, some of the old artists would have died out from obscurity by now...