Racist Ad?

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Inner Beauty, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    I found this on another site and thought I'd post it here:

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  2. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    I don't see how that's racist. It's a black guy shedding away his old self.
     
  3. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    yes,
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Why does his old self have to have an afro?
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Um fuck yeah
     
  6. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    "Out with the old, in with the new?"

    It'd be different if it was a white guy throwing the head of an afro. But no.

     
  7. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    I saw that today and was horrified. How that slipped into print without anyone saying "Um...guys? not a good idea" I will never know
     
  8. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    It's a black man getting "re-civilized" by the use of a product, which implies a lack of civilization prior. It's ah...in extremely poor taste, to say it as mildly as I possibly can put it.

    Centuries of portrayal of black folk as "uncivilized" underlie the image.
     
  9. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Ham-fisted and borderline offensive but message is no different than Chris Rock's "Black people vs. Niggers" routine, or the Philly mayor telling hoodlums to pull up their pants. Basically telling you to get your shit together.

    I question the decapitated Afro head however. Why such violent imagery? And to "re-civilize" basically says that negroes aren't civilized NOW.

    Basically all they had to do was show a before/after ad and they'd send the same message.

    White people are out of control with these coded racist messages these days.
     
  10. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    *Ding* We've got a winner.
     
  11. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    I think everyone's exaggerating the whole advertisement. Tell me, if you had a white guy throwing a his old self, which is a scruffy old homeless looking, ragged dude, would we all go up in arms screaming racism? I doubt it.

    Using a black guy in that ad to promote a product and try and find underlying racism in there is nitpicking on everything. Yes, there are hidden elements in certain ads with racist tendencies, but how far are before we simply cry out those words each and every time? It's a hygienic product. It's consistent with the message regardless of color.

     
  12. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    There isn't a history of images and descriptions of white men as uncivilized. It's not the same thing at all.
     
  13. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    I think these sum up the whole thread....
     
  14. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    You never seen images of the KKK being depicted as uncivilized reactionaries?

     
  15. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    You're dancing around the issue just to prove a point.

    You sound like those people who bring up Bush being portrayed as a monkey to say it's OK that Obama is portrayed as one. Even though blacks have a long history of being portrayed as monkeys as a racist insult.

    The word is DISINGENUOUS.

    Stop it.
     
  16. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    That's an entirely different scenario. Obama being called a monkey is actually based on racism, where as Bush being compared to one is based on his lack of intelligence. That's something I won't dispute.

    This advertisement doesn't scream racism to me, however. Unless the headless Afro guy has a bone sticking through his head, then I really don't see the reason why I should jump the bandwagon. If we keep crying foul on every little thing, then black models would be out of the job for just about everything.

     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Its always hysterical to be called uncivilized by people who are responsible for count less deaths and the destruction of dozens of cultures and thousands of farmlands. How is any of the shit they do civilized lol
     
  18. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Oh look. You're still dancing.

    A decapitated black head is GRUESOME. It evokes African head-hunters/pygmies.

    "Re-civilize?"

    Like I said, a side-by-side before/after would have gotten the same point across.

    Just because it's a black guy in the ad doesn't mean it's not racist.
     
  19. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    I compare something like this to the likes of Resident Evil 5 and the controversy surrounding it. In other words, people are just nitpicking at everything and creating something that doesn't belong.

    Would you feel better if there wasn't a black guy in that ad and instead it's a white guy with a decapitated head of a hippy looking dude instead?

     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Dude you know words have power and why were the words re-civilize yourself. Why couldn't they have said show your best you or some other empowering phrase. I don't see that kind of negative campaigning else where. Just saying.
     

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