Elin now dating a white guy

I get it...if you are talented in sports, then clearly, you're a superior human being and should be forgiven for everything.

And yes, I'd like blood. In fact, I'd someone to chop off his balls AND his dick and feed them to the very same dogs he abused.

I have even less patience for Ben Rothesburger. Any woman who would marry that POS should be examined for mental illness.

 

I guess I would tend to more forgive him. Sometimes people are raised to think something is ok that really isn't. If you live in a home or part of the country where animals are used in fighting and such for entertainment. In your mind you *think* you aren't doing anything wrong. Much as children who are abused become abusers. They live it and they think it's the way it is. You and I come from good homes. We know right and wrong. Some people need to be forgiven and shown the wrong of it.

 

I suspect they are making a differentiation between accused and convicted. Though it's very true that conviction rates for rape are extremely low, and vanishingly small for professional athletes, regardless of evidence, because juries assume every woman is dying for sportsman dick. :-(

 

We do come from good homes. We are fortunate.

I've had nothing but rescue animals my entire life. To think that someone kicked or hit Ella in the face once as a puppy, and as a result, she has a crazy underbite, and her one eye is lazy, hurts my heart every time I look at her. She is such a sweet dog. She's happy, and lovable, and loves to be close to me. Her entire body wags when I come home. What could she possibly have done that warranted getting kicked or hit in the face? She's 22lbs now.. so it's not like she's big and you have to worry about her getting out of control. WTF?

And Amos, his owners just up and left him with an eye situation. So, when he was found in the home where they abandoned him, his eyes were caked shut because they weren't producing tears and they were just getting irritated and scabby. The first two weeks I had him, all he did was squint, because he wasn't used to using his eyes. He walked into things constantly. He now can only see light and shadow. Sometimes, he still walks into things. He's the sweetest dog, who only wants to be loved. He loves to sit in people's laps and just lie there. He doesn't even care if you don't pet him. He's 11lbs, so you barely notice he's there. He just wants to feel your warmth.

Both of these dogs, and dogs I've had in the past, do whatever they can to be close to me. They curl up with me in bed at night. They've never done a single thing that I would ever think with any amount of serious consideration 'I should beat them for this'. I cannot accept that someone can grow up in this day and age and honestly believe that it's okay to treat an animal or a human being like that. ESPECIALLY animals...animals are helpless- they rely on us.

 

LoL, DB, love ya but Thank God you're not planning to go to law school. I would hate to see an emotional PETA prez like you sitting on the bench of the supreme court down the road, scary, lol. A passionate person like you should definitely be a teacher, you will make a huge difference in kids life.

 

I'm not emotional.

That's cool, calm, collected, DB of stone talking right now. No lie.

But yeah, was a teacher...I'm out of that now.

 

A thread of epic proportions.

 

lol...and onto page 59....


makes me giggle. same ol shit being rehashed & getting nowhere fast

 

plenty of assholes around here so whats your point

 

Spoken like someone who will never stop being a victim. I truly hope someone you love isn't wrongly convicted of a crime they didn't do. FYI hundreds go to prison each year for shit they didn't do that's why they created Project Innocence. Arguments like this is why I call you not all women but you over emotional. You'd rather just see punishment than actual justice. Some of these people are fucking sick they actually need help but we'd rather incarcerate them and forget about them. We expect them to work out their issues in a place where they're treated like wild animals and then have the nerve to call them monsters?
Do you know how a lot of people become rapists and child molestors? (You know where I work so I'm not pulling this out of my ass)
They were victims first so what do you do with the 8 year old who's watched his mother get raped by boyfriends and said boyfriends rape you? Do you drown him 8 in fear that he might be the monster that victimized him? If jail where they do get tortured isn't detering people you truly think your methods will work?
I love you to death but you obviously still have stuff to work out because that point of view of throwing the innocent in with guilty as long as you get the guilty is suicide bomber mentality kid.

 

Point is, Vick can be a star, what's-his-name Rothelisberger? can be a star and also be assholes and/or criminals.

Stardom in any field just means that you have a talent, worked hard, and were smart enough to take advantage of the luck/opportunities that came your way. Doesn't make you a role model, or a decent human being.

 

LOL. OK, Andrae. Sometimes, the lengths you go to try to be right are just too much for me.

I'm gonna go giggle into my morning coffee. LOL...Thanks for the good laugh.

 

Don't forget your meds you'll need them boo

 

Pretty sure you're the one who needs the meds...lol I'm still laughing after that one.

 

Sex therapy cures all but I ran over a squirel the other night so you might not want me

 

I'm surprised at this sudden desire to boycott Nike over Michael Vicks. I haven't purchased a Nike product since the early 90's when their unscrupulous production methods were exposed. They outsource to factories outside the US to side-step issues like paying minimum wage, limiting work hours, not employing children, etc. They appear to be a bunch of greedy bastards, and nearly as I can tell they have been for a long damn time. They did revise their policies in the last decade to make it appear as though they learned their lesson, however organizations like Educating for Justice that check up on them still find that though they have improved in some factories, they're still using sweatshop labor tactics in others. Nike has made the news numerous times over their mistreatment of workers, producing their products as cheaply as possible, and overpricing them horrendously so they can pay celebrities to endorse them. But only now are people concerned, because of Michael Vick's conviction for abusing animals... Nike has been abusing humans for decades, many of them children... some folks need to adjust their priorities.

I also agree with Jordan, some people simply aren't raised well, they truly don't understand what's right and wrong as those concepts tend to be defined during childhood by your familial influences. I wouldn't think that would need to be explained, as rather clearly an awful lot of people are raised to become racists by ignorant people, and that's what they become because that's all they know. Again obviously some of them learn how wrong that is once they are older and can think, question, and reason for themselves. I can understand that if Vicks was raised with no regard for animals, that he wouldn't see anything wrong with that. I can also believe that he could learn from his mistake and change. I don't believe anyone should be made to pay for a mistake for the rest of their life if they truly did not know what they were doing was wrong, and they admit that it was, and they feel remorse.

As for the concept that everyone convicted should suffer in unspeakable ways forever, I sure cannot get behind that and frankly that assertion makes me ill. We have laws that protect against cruel and unusual punishment for a reason, because no matter what a person has done, they're still a human being. There are also plenty of wrongly convicted people, just check out Project Innocence as Andrae mentioned. In fact the number of people who were railroaded into a conviction because they were illiterate, mentally challenged, or from a variety of 'disadvantaged' groups, is enough to make you realize justice is seriously flawed for far too many. William Blackstone stated 'better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer'. While guilty people going free is not a comforting thought, the thought of someone spending life in prison or receiving the death penalty for something they did not do is more chilling.

Regardless of what someone has done, if they serve their time and are released then they get to move on and people need to leave them be. That's how our society works, and you cannot embrace the parts that you like and toss out the parts you don't, it simply wouldn't remain a cohesive legal system if you did. Rehabilitation is a successful concept for many, and the only statistical evidence I have seen where rehabilitation fails the majority of the time is for pedophiles and rapists. So to punish someone forever for something they did, served their time for, and now regret and in some cases are trying to contribute to raising awareness on, is IMO simply inappropriate. I say good for Vicks for coming out and not letting the past hold him back, and I am an animal lover who finds what he did despicable, just not unforgivable.

 

Great post Esp. Its weird how the feminist has no tolerance. Lets also not forget that justice is usually for the wealthy or those fortunate enough to have their cases picked up by Project Innocence and pro bono causes like that.
There have been many men and women who did commit rape and murder and all other kinds of crimes but never have to answer for it simply because they could afford a 500 an hour attorney or an army of them.
Law is just another corporate business where the rich can manipulate the system and the poor are the only ones who are forced to face the consequences of their actions.... if they did it.

 

there you go rite there. it can be any type of case from criminal, domestic or civil....If you dont have the money/power/well established name you dont have the justice.

 

Repped.

 

GTFO- I was talking about people convicted of abusing a human or an animal. I already explained to that the burden of proof is always on the victim, so if it's proven, there's no wrong fucking conviction. It is.

I wasn't talking murder.

I wasn't talking rape (although I think if you are convicted of rape, you should have your balls removed with a fucking spoon).

I was talking of the types of crimes that require the victim to show beyond a shadow of a doubt that it happened...and that's always abuse cases.

Oy motherfucking cocksucking VEY.