Ashley Judd criticizes hip hop music/culture

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Iggy, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Ashley Judd's memoir doesn't just deal with her personal life — she also criticizes hip-hop, "with its rape culture and insanely abusive lyrics and depictions of girls and women as 'hos.'" She calls most rap and hip-hop "the contemporary soundtrack of misogyny," and calls out Diddy and Snoop Dogg. Also! Judd writes: "I believe that the social construction of gender — the cultural beliefs and practices that divide the sexes and institutionalize and normalize the unequal treatment of girls and women, privilege the interests of boys and men, and, most nefariously, incessantly sexualize girls and women — is the root cause of poverty and suffering around the world."

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ms-p-diddy-snoop-dogg-new-memoir-read-excerpt
     
  2. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I think that she's going for a record. She's estranged from her immediate family as well.
     
  3. MissWacy

    MissWacy New Member

    i wonder what she would say to all those women who buy that music and sing along about hos etc
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Or that a lot of rock music does the same shit. Every genre of music sexualizes women and rap culture just describes what's going on. Women were wearing short skirts and acting slutty back in the 60s way before Run or DMC picked up a mic.
     
  5. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Wow, I wasn't aware that Ms. Judd was so well-versed in hip hop culture. Whatever. She's entitled to her opinion, but the abuse of women goes far deeper than that. Hip hop is just everyone's bete noir of the moment. It has no more or less subjugation of women than other cultural phenomenons, including pop music, the beauty/fashion industry, NASCAR culture, Girls Gone Wild, whatever. People love to have something/someone to blame. The truth is, I'm just as guilty of ogling a beautiful woman as anyone else. We all share some part in this play.

    The subjugation of women has its roots in the primitive state of man, the greater relative size and strength of males in most species and the monopoly of the use of violence or coercion. It is present among the wealthy as much as among the poor. Among the poor it is driven by superstition, tradition, lack of education, etc. The rich, however, are just as guilty of objectifying "their" women (sex toys, trophy wives, etc), it just gets glossed over because it appears to be non-violent, but a velvet cage is still a cage. And often, because of socialization, women 'choose' (read: accept) these roles for themselves because it's been instilled in them from an early age. This 2nd class status is what pushes the sexualization of women and girls because sexuality has historically been the only way for a woman to exercise power in society (i.e. sexual manipulation of a socially powerful male through whom she would act in the public domain).

    The above situation is wholly unjust, but hip-hop had ZERO to do with its creation. It is only the occasionally ugly manifestation of that historical trend. As a product of the surrounding culture (not just black but also US, Western and human) it must reflect the thinking of its creators.
     
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  6. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    I know what you mean. They've been objectifying women for decades before hip-hop came along.

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  7. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    With her talking like that, she better have a black man to back her up.
     
  8. MissWacy

    MissWacy New Member

    shes just another idiotic woman, who thinks she speaks for us all, i love when they try that shit with video games, they end up lookin stupid as fuck
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Just a bunch of haters who want other to stop liking things because they don't like it.
    Btw that new avatar is sexy as hell. Let your bf know I'm mad jealous lol
     
  10. MissWacy

    MissWacy New Member

    LOL thanks, yea its silly they have to make up stuff that isint there with certain stuff
     
  11. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    she's not wrong.

    ...that is all.
     
  12. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    I disagree...I listen to ROCK...A LOT. And there really is no comparison with regards to subject matter.

    none-at-all.

    none...

    zero.

    nondemonai.

    zilch

    zero
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    My point is popular media period objectifies women. Before rap was around women were still being called bitches and hos.
    Personally I think the Twilight series has done more to damage women than the last twenty years of rap combined.
     
  14. stiletoes

    stiletoes Well-Known Member

    Since when is frickin Ashley Judd and expert on anything!?!!?!?
     
  15. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    She has opinions, thats all - its fair..
    She has opinions on a lot of things.
    She is an activist, but I often feel like she is condescending and on her high horses.

    But I have to agree w Ymra on this.
     
  16. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    The only thing rap does is make it more direct and obvious, but all of popular culture exploits women. 'Hot For Teacher' by Van Halen? 'Rocket In My Pocket'? 'Black Girls' by the Rolling Stones? 'You Shook Me All Night Long' by AC/DC? The only difference is the more vulgar expression of certain rap artists (I won't honor them with the title 'hip-hop' which they clearly don't deserve) which is culled directly from the most oppressed subset of the black community. I agree with her about the subjugation of women feeding poverty (i.e. women's lack of participation in the workforce due to sexism, etc), but she is WRONG in attributing causality to hip hop as an art form. Her critique needs to be much broader.
     
  17. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Sexy ass avatar. :smt023
     
  18. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    I'm Gonna play the most violent song on my iPod just for the hell of it. Brotha Lynch and Doomsday on deck.
     
  19. RRoyce55

    RRoyce55 Active Member

    +1
    Rep Added!:smt023
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    BA the real American Hero in the house. How you doing kid?
     

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