Love Isn't Colorblind: White Online Daters Spurn African Americans

Would you be neutral if the illegals were white??

I bet you wouldn't.

 

Ok, you schooled me there, great debate, flaminghetero. I'll give you a positive rep comment in your page about the debate we've had today.

 

Actually it's not.

 

Lol!

 

:smt023

Immigration has always been used to offset our numbers and progress...going all the way back to the Chinese and Irish.

What's happening today is in response to our population boom in the 90's that you don't hear about.

 

I wonder how Fairycon feels now that his hero Quadaffi is on the ropes.?

 

Yep, you're the go-to-guy for anything immigration related. I'll take my loss like a man.

 

You do know the word rare means not common right?

 

At least you kept an open mind.

Read this...written by a Latina:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-hernandez7jan07,1,414328.story

THE ACRIMONIOUS relationship between Latinos and African Americans in Los Angeles is growing hard to ignore. Although last weekend's black-versus-Latino race riot at Chino state prison is unfortunately not an aberration, the Dec. 15 murder in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood of Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old African American, allegedly by members of a Latino gang, was shocking.

Yet there was nothing really new about it. Rather, the murder was a manifestation of an increasingly common trend: Latino ethnic cleansing of African Americans from multiracial neighborhoods. Just last August, federal prosecutors convicted four Latino gang members of engaging in a six-year conspiracy to assault and murder African Americans in Highland Park. During the trial, prosecutors demonstrated that African American residents (with no gang ties at all) were being terrorized in an effort to force them out of a neighborhood now perceived as Latino.

For example, one African American resident was murdered by Latino gang members as he looked for a parking space near his Highland Park home. In another case, a woman was knocked off her bicycle and her husband was threatened with a box cutter by one of the defendants, who said, "You niggers have been here long enough."

At first blush, it may be mystifying why such animosity exists between two ethnic groups that share so many of the same socioeconomic deprivations. Over the years, the hostility has been explained as a natural reaction to competition for blue-collar jobs in a tight labor market, or as the result of turf battles and cultural disputes in changing neighborhoods. Others have suggested that perhaps Latinos have simply been adept at learning the U.S. lesson of anti-black racism, or that perhaps black Americans are resentful at having the benefits of the civil rights movement extended to Latinos.

Although there may be a degree of truth to some or all of these explanations, they are insufficient to explain the extremity of the ethnic violence.

Over the years, there's also been a tendency on the part of observers to blame the conflict more on African Americans (who are often portrayed as the aggressors) than on Latinos. But although it's certainly true that there's plenty of blame to go around, it's important not to ignore the effect of Latino culture and history in fueling the rift.

The fact is that racism — and anti-black racism in particular — is a pervasive and historically entrenched reality of life in Latin America and the Caribbean. More than 90% of the approximately 10 million enslaved Africans brought to the Americas were taken to Latin America and the Caribbean (by the French, Spanish and British, primarily), whereas only 4.6% were brought to the United States. By 1793, colonial ***********0000ff]Mexico[/COLOR] had a population of 370,000 Africans (and descendants of Africans) — the largest concentration in all of Spanish America.

The legacy of the slave period in Latin America and the Caribbean is similar to that in the United States: Having lighter skin and European features increases the chances of socioeconomic opportunity, while having darker skin and African features severely limits social mobility.

White supremacy is deeply ingrained in Latin America and continues into the present. In Mexico, for instance, citizens of African descent (who are estimated to make up 1% of the population) report that they regularly experience racial harassment at the hands of local and state police, according to recent studies by Antonieta Gimeno, then of Mount Holyoke College, and Sagrario Cruz-Carretero of the University of Veracruz.

Mexican public discourse reflects the hostility toward blackness; consider such common phrases as "getting black" to denote getting angry, and "a supper of blacks" to describe a riotous gathering of people. Similarly, the word "black" is often used to mean "ugly." It is not surprising that Mexicans who have been surveyed indicate a disinclination to marry darker-skinned partners, as reported in a 2001 study by Bobby Vaughn, an anthropology professor at ***********0000ff]Notre Dame[/COLOR] de Namur University.

Anti-black sentiment also manifests itself in Mexican politics. During the 2001 elections, for instance, Lazaro Cardenas, a candidate for governor of the state of Michoacan, is believed to have lost substantial support among voters for having an Afro Cuban wife. Even though Cardenas had great name recognition (as the grandson of Mexico's most popular president), he only won by 5 percentage points — largely because of the anti-black platform of his opponent, Alfredo Anaya, who said that "there is a great feeling that we want to be governed by our own race, by our own people."

Given this, it should not be surprising that migrants from Mexico and other areas of Latin America and the Caribbean arrive in the U.S. carrying the baggage of racism. Nor that this facet of Latino culture is in turn transmitted, to some degree, to younger generations along with all other manifestations of the culture.

The sociological concept of "social distance" measures the unease one ethnic or racial group has for interacting with another. Social science studies of Latino racial attitudes often indicate a preference for maintaining social distance from African Americans. And although the social distance level is largest for recent immigrants, more established communities of Latinos in the United States also show a marked social distance from African Americans.

For instance, in University of Houston sociologist Tatcho Mindiola's 2002 survey of 600 Latinos in Houston (two-thirds of whom were Mexican, the remainder Salvadoran and Colombian) and 600 African Americans, the African Americans had substantially more positive views of Latinos than Latinos had of African Americans. Although a slim majority of the U.S.-born Latinos used positive identifiers when describing African Americans, only a minority of the foreign-born Latinos did so. One typical foreign-born Latino respondent stated: "I just don't trust them…. The men, especially, all use drugs, and they all carry guns."

This same study found that 46% of Latino immigrants who lived in residential neighborhoods with African Americans reported almost no interaction with them.

The social distance of Latinos from African Americans is consistently reflected in Latino responses to survey questions. In a 2000 study of residential segregation, Camille Zubrinsky Charles, a sociology professor at the ***********0000ff]University of Pennsylvania[/COLOR], found that Latinos were more likely to reject African Americans as neighbors than they were to reject members of other racial groups. In addition, in the 1999-2000 Lilly Survey of American Attitudes and Friendships, Latinos identified African Americans as their least desirable marriage partners, whereas African Americans proved to be more accepting of intermarriage with Latinos.

Ironically, African Americans, who are often depicted as being averse to coalition-building with Latinos, have repeatedly demonstrated in their survey responses that they feel less hostility toward Latinos than Latinos feel toward them.

Although some commentators have attributed the Latino hostility to African Americans to the stress of competition in the job market, a 1996 sociological study of racial group competition suggests otherwise. In a study of 477 Latinos from the 1992 Los Angeles County Social Survey, professors Lawrence Bobo, then of Harvard, and Vincent Hutchings of the ***********0000ff]University of Michigan[/COLOR] found that underlying prejudices and existing animosities contribute to the perception that African Americans pose an economic threat — not the other way around.

It is certainly true that the acrimony between African Americans and Latinos cannot be resolved until both sides address their own unconscious biases about one another. But it would be a mistake to ignore the Latino side of the equation as some observers have done — particularly now, when the recent violence in Los Angeles has involved Latinos targeting peaceful African American citizens.

This conflict cannot be sloughed off as simply another generation of ethnic group competition in the United States (like the familiar rivalries between Irish, Italians and Jews in the early part of the last century). Rather, as the violence grows, the "diasporic" origins of the anti-black sentiment — the entrenched anti-black prejudice among Latinos that exists not just in the United States but across the Americas — will need to be directly confronted.

 

@ Flaming

Speaking of them thinking they can hate their way in to acceptance,the yahoo article posted today on the White boys who killed the Mexican immigrant...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110223/ap_on_re_us/us_immigrant_killing_students

All you gotta do is read the comments to see how they feel.

"I would buy the 2 white men a case of beer each for this."

"Interesting. If this strawberry picker had been guilty of a hate crime we would have heard nothing about it."

And so on...

 

They're kissing all that white ass for nothing.

 

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2007...c-cleansing-of-black-amercans-in-los-angeles/

"In September 2001, Robert Hightower, a 19-year-old Pasadena high school senior, was shot to death after hugging his sister, whom he had been visiting. A 204th Street gang member shot him, according to court testimony, because he was upset that a black boxer had beaten a Latino in a prizefight."

When I first learned about that,that's what made me go out and buy my first pistol.

 

What's crazy is living out here on the East coast you never really see this. I was completely unaware until the Kardashians went on the lopez show.
its a fucking shame because we actually love their people and their culture far more than white people do on a whole.

 

What state do you live in Flaminghetero? Do you live in California, Arizona, Nevada, etc? I do have to agree with MrFantastic that black-latin relations work better in the Midwest and on the East coast than on the West coast and in the South. Unless there are articles or social issue research that proves the contrary and state that again, I'm wrong. I'd like to see if that's possible.

 

Yea I've seen a conversation from them before and basically what was said is,they want to be "the favorite minority". To this day I stil have trouble understanding that concept. Anyway...

Most negros are quick to hop to a Mexican's defense in 1 way or another. Little do they know,if all white people vanished from Earth tomorrow for what ever reason,blacks would be gone by next week.

Not for the same reason white people vanished though,but because these latinos would have a field day,killing their black asses.

 

It's a shame that Black people have to die over a boxing match.

When Shane Mosley destroyed Antonio Margarito....people actually lost their lives over that shit.

The same thing happened back when Pernell Wittaker made Julio Ceasar Chavez look like a fool in the ring.

They better be glad we don't hate them the way they do us.:smt039

 

I remember that. He asked them "What's up with you 2 and black guys".

In his comedy special "America's Mexican",he spent about 2 minutes of the hour he was given dissin blacks.

 

They don't have the numbers in the midwest and east coast....yet.....that's why they aren't behaving like a bunch of tanned nazis.

Once they get the numbers...they treat Black people the same way they do in Mexico.

 

But is it just Mexicans or all Latinos because the Puerto Ricans and Domincans show us love out here. Even though it seems like all hispanics look down on Mexicans.

 

Whoa brother I gotta disagree in NY especial NYC Hispanics have the same numbers we do if not more and we ain't fighting each other like that out here.