Mediterraneans can mean anything-some folks include Lybians, Moroccoans, Ethiopians, Egyptians, Yemenis etc... on that list, lol.
Yes, this all depends we are operating under the same definition of White. There's no definitive demarcation for any of these classifications however. In one case I'm using the standard of not being any less White because an Italian with darker/olive skin can be part of the same haplogroup as an Italian with lighter features, both without any or very little "admixture", but of course there are other reasons (cultural, general phenotype.etc..) why Italians are considered as White as any other group of White people.
Italians(and Irish) were called the niggers of europe by other whites. Iranians are considered white as well.
This reminds one the area of Gangs of New york, many Irish and Italians were not considered white. In fact they use to have sing "No Irish or Dogs allowed". America, an interesting nation.
Italians are recent inductees into the white race.So are the Irish believe it or not. I think they were brought into America to offset the Black population...because we sure as hell didn't need them...and their home countries couldn't wait to get rid of as many as possible.
They had to bring them over and into the white race to offset the Black population. Immigration has always been a tool to keep us in check.
Don't try to catch me now. :lol: I said some and not all darker Italians have admixture, or at least admixture discernible by a DNA test, but as you intimate by your eye roll, the African admixture is present. Probably, I assume more so in Spain and Portugal, but don't quote me on that. The average White American probably has more SSA ancestry than your average Italian in Italy though....
Yes, who could be paler than the Irish, yet they did not have White "status", one doesn't even need to prove a point using darker Mediterraneans.
There is a reason southern italians are darker than their northern brethren...and it's not just the sun. Watch the movie 'true romance' Dennis Hopper's character breaks it down LIKE A MOFO: "did you know Italians are spawned from niggers?" You might be able to find it on youtube...it is absolutely devastating.
Man,don't even get me started..lol. If mexico were a white country Al sharpton...Messy Jesse..and Louis FairyCON would have a fucking stroke.
I could get out more by a factor of one thousand and still not find ONE white person that considers an Ethiopian a mediterranean.