No, The truth Bookie is that men don't learn anything, we make decisions, we all know the facts beforehand. Every man that cheats knows what he is risking, he knows other men that have lost everything and he will still do it, because he decided a long time ago that he would cheat whenever the acceptable circumstance occurs (that varies from one cheating male to the next). A cheater made these decisions long before he knew you. Never allow a man to tell he will not cheat or that he no longer cheats because he loves you, needs you, because you are beautiful or you have a great body, because of his religion, etc. none of that matters. What matters is has he decided to be faithful, period, he alone knows the answer. He alone is responsible for the choices. A man makes a decision and then acts and thinks in such a way that he becomes converted to the decision he came to. These decisions are made alone. When I decided what kind of man I wanted to become, I was not in love, I was not really in a serious relationship at all. I was a teenager when, I came to the conclusion that I did not want to develop any behavior or thoughts that would harm my most important choice in this life, which is the selection of a wife. I decided I will not cheat regardless of circumstance. I will not be true to my wife because of her beauty or behavior, so why would I cheat because of the beauty or behavior of another. Faithfulness has nothing to do with your partner it has to do with you. I know it is not sexy or romantic, some men on this site have made fun of me for not having 'game', they are right I don't have any, I don't want any. I don't want a woman dumb enough to fall for that stupid 'game' shit. My challenge to myself is to become something better, a woman can love me or leave me alone but, I confidently accept my decision to be a better man.
Can Brett Favre get any more annoying? I actually am a fan of his game and all, but dude is becoming a train wreck with all the retirements, and unretirements, back stabbings, diva behavior etc. It's just becoming intolerable.
Wow fam you presume a lot. So according to your post and I'm hoping I read it right. Once a cheater always a cheater?
I dont think he said that. Or at least I dont read it that way. You can make that decission regardless of where you are in life, even if you cheated in the past. But it is a decsission made within - that has noting to do who stands before you.
Change can occur but, it comes from within (you do not practice not cheating, you decide not to). I found these two articles to illustrate my point. This article comes from experts on sexuality, mental health etc. http://men.webmd.com/guide/our-cheatin-hearts Here is an article from a 'proud' cheater, a different kind of expert if you will http://www.esquire.com/features/reasons-why-men-cheat-0410 If this man worked for me and I found out he was doing this, I would fire his ass. WHY? Ross Perot said it best: “If your wife can’t trust you, why should I?” This puts me at odds with some men and it makes be appear less interesting to certain women but, I really don't give a shit. Correct.
I saw a clip on deadspin.com with the actual voice messages allegedly left to this sideline reporter and I've witnessed 13 year old boys with more game. Perhaps he was attempting to articulate his interest in this woman by using circuitous language and came off like a cerebral palsy patient. For whatever reason, the woman hasn't said anything yet. If she wanted to keep this under the rug, then why weren't the messages and dick snapshots erased? If she turns up in front of a bank of microphones with Gloria Allred sitting at her right, we will definitely know what's up.
That's a little unfair fam. Bill Clinton was an obvious cheater and did more for this country than Bush and Bush was very monogamous so I don't think one has to do with the other. Both men and women cheat the unfortunate thing is men get caught more. Women aren't always the victims. But I do think that this makes us take a realistic look at monogamy. If so many people fail to do it doesn't it say something more about the institution than the people involved?
First,I don't fully trust any politician, they tend to be controlled by forces greater than themselves. You are the 'institution' when you are married or in a committed relationship. Don't blame 'it', there is no 'it', except 'you'. The dog never ate your homework 'you' just did not do it. Stop placing blame on things and make a decision to be better. Btw, You do know that the cheater in the article makes the same argument as you do? I mean really Bro. what would stop a man who has created an adultery system and built a philosophy on cheating, which by his own admission is a series of lies and deception from stealing and falsification? Not morals, he is dishonest by choice. He lies to his wife why would he not lie to investors, customers, co-workers, his boss? You have to have boundaries, values, something. Two wrongs do not make one right, but it may make one STD/HIV positive. Nature itself is warning us to take responsibility. So don't blame nature. And Clinton lied to the country when he said he 'did not have sex with that woman'. He decided long ago that telling the truth was circumstantial. Just because you are a man does not mean you have to go along with this excuse stuff.
I'm in essence a numbers person and I use to numbers to predict and analyze behavior. You can't ignore the millions of failed marriages and pin that purely on moral failings. I'm not saying everything is identical but you can't ignore that man people cheat and there has to be something more to it than simply saying that men are dishonest dogs who can't keep it in their pants. There is something wrong with the system that needs to be fixed. Any system that works only half the time is failure plain and simple. You wouldn't drive a car that only worked half the time nor would you eat somewhere where the food got you sick half the time. So why does marriage get a pass? As for politicians I agree with you but whatever Clintons downfalls he left the country with a surplus and no war. Shit the same can be said about Kennedy, he avoided the first threat of a nuclear war and signed the Civil Rights Acts. Two presidents who cheated and had moral failings but did far more for us than those who were monogamous. What did we get from either Bushes? Recessions and wars both times and they were both monogamous as far as we know. So like I said one doesn't always have something to do with the other.
Because you do not make the car you drive in but, 'you' do make your marriage. For me marriage constitutes a relationship. For you it is a system. I would never marry a woman who thought marriage was a system. I never said that people who are monogamous are always right about everything. Nor did I say that all people who cheat are wrong about everything. I have a personal right to be skeptical about infidelity, it goes against my value system. You will never be able to alter my personal values, Andre. My values define me more than my skin tone or anything else, I will cease to be me without it. And stop using Presidents as an example, they have only been forty four of them. Btw, Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act, and was the political force behind both. Kennedy was dead. It was Kennedy's job to avoid nuclear war and he had the full weight of his advisors, administration, State dept., dept. of Defense etc. behind him. Presidents do not act alone. Recessions are primarily cyclical they usually happen despite who is in office. Is Obama causing unemployment? No.
Actually Bush caused unemployment and even though recessions are cyclical some are worst than others and the actions of the government definitely help to influence that. Dude I'm not trying to sway your feelings on infidelity I just presented a flaw in your thinking. You're the one who said a person capable of lying to his wife can't be trusted with other major issues and I just pointed out cases where that wasn't true. And all things are systems and relationships. The relationship is between you and your wife but you partake in the marriage system that comes with its own set of rules you must abide by. I wasn't trying to direct anything at you personally. Just an intellectual debate.
Wrong, Andre I said that person cannot be trusted by me. I do not care if others trust them. My statements where not meant to be intellectual I was talking to Bookie. My original statements if you read them where all personal. This is not a damn debate this is me, it is who I am. Do you understand? Originally Posted by botoan No, The truth Bookie is that men don't learn anything, we make decisions, we all know the facts beforehand. Every man that cheats knows what he is risking, he knows other men that have lost everything and he will still do it, because he decided a long time ago that he would cheat whenever the acceptable circumstance occurs (that varies from one cheating male to the next). A cheater made these decisions long before he knew you. Never allow a man to tell he will not cheat or that he no longer cheats because he loves you, needs you, because you are beautiful or you have a great body, because of his religion, etc. none of that matters. What matters is has he decided to be faithful, period, he alone knows the answer. He alone is responsible for the choices. A man makes a decision and then acts and thinks in such a way that he becomes converted to the decision he came to. These decisions are made alone. When I decided what kind of man I wanted to become, I was not in love, I was not really in a serious relationship at all. I was a teenager when, I came to the conclusion that I did not want to develop any behavior or thoughts that would harm my most important choice in this life, which is the selection of a wife. I decided I will not cheat regardless of circumstance. I will not be true to my wife because of her beauty or behavior, so why would I cheat because of the beauty or behavior of another. Faithfulness has nothing to do with your partner it has to do with you. I know it is not sexy or romantic, some men on this site have made fun of me for not having 'game', they are right I don't have any, I don't want any. I don't want a woman dumb enough to fall for that stupid 'game' shit. My challenge to myself is to become something better, a woman can love me or leave me alone but, I confidently accept my decision to be a better man.
The Dems aren't absolved of assisting in this recession and unemployment. Obama has friends in his Cabinet who were rocking Wall street hard before the collapse. Both partied have blood on their hands. While I agree that one action doesn't necessarily affect another (per the Clinton example), Clinton did the institute of marriage a huge disservice. It become hip to believe that blow jobs weren't sex (aka cheating), because Americans were so in love with him due to the state of their economic lives, they created a pass for him. Ask Hillary if she agreed deep within her soul. Let your wife blow a man and see if you think that. People lost respect for Clinton as a MAN, not as a politician. Women lost respect for Hillary, not as a future politician, but as an example of a woman who can be humiliated and disrespected, but turned a blind eye. [youtube]uv98ru06Vjs[/youtube]
I admit I can be prideful, it is my greatest downfall. Most men would take offence to that remark but, I will leave it alone.
if these sexts and photos came from an everyday loser, would this even be a news story? seriously, how many times have you ladies been sent random cock photos? how many times did you seek penalizing actions for them? favre's is just getting played because he's a superstar, doing what other red-blooded males do on the daily without anyone giving a shit.