TRUMP Thread

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Biden is a tourniquet, to stop the country from hemorrhaging anymore under Trump's ineffectual leadership, no more, no less.

Do you realize that Trump's defeat was celebrated in other democratic countries? There were fireworks in London and bells ringing in Paris. Trump was so disliked that even outside the United States his defeat was cause for celebration for people who don't have jack shit to do with American politics. Let that sink in for a minute.

C'mon now all politics are personal, left, right, or center there is no separation from the people because the personal desires and needs of the people are what politics are all about.

I'm no fan of Kamala and I think she is very vulnerable to a head to head defeat when she runs after Biden, because her entire reason to exist as a politician is her gender and her ethnicity.

As for the country not unifying........yeah you're probably right, but Biden was not the person doing everything he could to exploit wedge issues over the last four years to drive Americans even further apart than they were under Obama. That was Trump and if he was re-elected America was going to stay divided and he wouldn't have had it any other way.

 

That's your rebuttal? You'd rather have someone who listens to no one and thinks he's smarter than everyone leading this country through a pandemic and depression?
At least Joe will let experts work and get this country back on track.
I will never understand the thrall Trump has on you people

 

If that's true why did Dems lose seats and lose to frickin Susan Collins for the Senate? We better autopsy this election correctly or the next Republican president will make us long for the Trump years. Neoliberalism won the day because it was up against the worst president in modern history with an insane unemployment rate and a pandemic killing a quarter million people in the US alone. There is no way this race should have been so tight. Either we actually listen to what people want or....

 

Unelectable? Klobuchar and Mayor Pete had to drop out and endorse Biden for him to win. Bernie had them all running scared let's not rewrite history. A populist message works we can't ignore that

 

If Kamala isn't black than neither was Malcolm X bruh
She was born and raised here how is she any less black than you are? We definitely weren't saying this bs when it was Obama who was half white and raised by white people.

 

Book people are divided because Republicans in general and those who support Trump in particular are fucking Nazi sympathizers. You either support racism directly or indirectly. The abject terror people of color specifically black and brown people have had to live under for four years was nerve wrecking. It's never been a picnic for us in this country but under Trump we had to see coworkers people we thought were friends and even family support a man who sided with the brutalization and abuse of people who looked like us. How are we unified under someone who is followed by neo Nazi hate groups? What neighborhood what room would my family be safe in if these are kinds of people who are attracted by his rhetoric?

 

You're so full of shit.
He has advisors, and he's 8/10 taken their advice.

On covid, even Fauci said the same.

He is also KNOWN to bring in exoerts and voices to LISTEN to them.
Many people have said they were shocked when the POTUS invited them to have a discussion on issues or plans.

 

I know my name is always on your lips, but Bookie was the poster.

 

Changed it. At this point you two are interchangeable madam

 

Yeah you're right I sound like a hypocrite, so let me back up a smidge and explain. Kamala Harris is biracial just like Obama. What I meant to say was Kamala Harris's success doesn't feel like a step up for black people in the same way that Obama's election did. I don't know, maybe it's her record as a prosecutor, maybe it's her backdoor coronation as the heir apparent, maybe it's the phony pandering BS (like her debunked weed-smoking story) or maybe I'm just unfairly judging her due to some underlying gender bias, I don't know. Whatever it is, when people act as if black people should embrace her as the next black pioneer, I can't help but to pause and ask myself, is she though?

 

I respect the criticism just please dial it back on the low key xenophobia. Since this ADOS thing popped up a lot of black people with Caribbean and more recent African heritage are being treated like we aren't actually even though our lived experience is identical to those who went through American slavery. We face the exact same discriminations and its weird when people say someone like Kamala isn't black because her dad is Jamaican. Does anyone doubt if she weren't Kamala Harris as we know here she'd be abused and used by the system like any other black person?
I agree with her record being trash and they are going to misread this moment once again by putting identity before policy. Maybe she'll actually listen and do right by the people

 

Xenophobia was not part of the equation, pointing out that her father was Jamaican wasn't a knock on her blackness, I was just being overly descriptive of her heritage, sorry for the confusion. Although I don't necessarily agree that she would have been treated like any other black person, because if she wanted to lean into her Indian heritage, she would have been able to navigate things just that much easier than black people are able to do.

On a side note, as a person with a rainbow of races in my family, I have always maintained the personal idea that race was a two verification concept. What people see you as, and what you see yourself as. After all, my fair-skinned blue-eyed grandmother was a"black woman" because she lived a black life, married a black man, and raised her children as black people, but if her life had gone another direction she might have "passed" and lived a completely different life.

 

Think again. Obama was as boring a politician as you could imagine other than his skin color and all they could cry about was his tan suit, Michelle's bare arms, and them flying around in "their" Air Force One. Plus Obama is gay and Michelle is a man. The US has been flying drones since Bush/Cheney but that's all "progressives" can cry about when it comes to BHO. The media is complicit. When it's boring get some leftist on TV to bitch about Democrats and never Republicans. Nope white people want all this confusion, it's blacks who want stability if voting results are to be believed

 

Because voters were spooked by socialist talk. The GOP tried to wrap Bernie/AOC baggage around mainstream Dems' necks, that's the result. You are correct we'd better autopsy this election correctly.

 

Kamala is just like Meghan Markle in that she doesn't look like 98% of the black women who live vicariously through them. Your suspicion is well-founded, Kamala is only situationally "Black." She will shift towards immigrant issues in the weeks ahead leaving African-Americans, again mostly women, holding the bag.

 

Acknowledge his good deeds? Here's a thought... Perhaps, I don't feel he's done much in the way of good deeds. In fact, I feel his action on some things, and inaction on others were bad deeds. Ignoring the good is immature, huh? How about ignoring the bad, and he's had plenty? Is that immature, denial or what? I'm obviously happy he lost, and clearly I'm not alone given the results not to mention the massive amounts of celebrations that took place yesterday. For some odd reason it seems that you may feel that we see the Biden/Harris victory as some sort of second coming when I haven't seen anything here, nor have I heard from anyone to suggest that we have a dream team of sorts in Biden/Harris. However, we're optimistic, and happy to see the current clan leave.

Exactly! Of course we had the.. "I alone can fix it", which was the beginning of the clusterfuck that I'm so thankful is about to leave.